Will new york get another alt station once it is flipped to news/talk?

[RockTheGlobe]

In no sense should "modern rock" encompass active rock. Active rock is rock, just as much as "alternative", post '92, was really "rock" under a more marketable name.

But this is why rock as a format is dying on the radio. The only way for it to attract enough audience is to be some form of hybrid. When you niche it down to active, modern, and alternative, you're just chopping the slice even smaller, and that doesn't work for radio.

But isn't this what 'RXP attempted and what everyone here basically crucified them for?

 

[TheBigA]

But isn't this what 'RXP attempted and what everyone here basically crucified them for?

It got them the best ratings they ever had.

Radio is about ratings, not satisfying small niches.

 

[danikayser84]

I can get WRRV in West Milford but only for a little bit if your in the Hewitt Section of WM you can sort of get it. They need to upgrade their signal or move their station to NYC because their station is phenomenal. Those Hudson Valley Stations I think IMO do better job than some of the NYC stations and I get NYC stations clearer than HV stations!

Can't do that; too close to WQBU... but 103.9 when it moves in could be a simulcast of WRRV, but even then I'm doubting that...

 

[frozenfiresb]

I know several years back WPDH had a simulcast on the 106.3 WFAF signal, but I don't recall 'RRV ever having a signal in Westchester.

 

[bb388]

I have had it with FM in the NY, LI area. Whats left to listen to if you dont want to hear a track from "dark side of the moon" or "abbey road" once an hour? WBAB and 104.3 are completely without any imagination. They could playback old Scott Muney (sp) shows from the 80's and get rid of their on air staffs and no one would notice. I thought I found a station worthy of my #1 preset in RXP. I guess FUV goes back to #1. Funny thing is, I was going to send an email to RXP this morning telling them what a good station they were,except for that evening talk nonsense they had been running, when I learned about the format change.

My dilemma is, do I spend my money on satellite radio or do I buy Rosetta Stone so I can listen to one of the dozens of Spanish music stations available.

I had to vent my displeasure but dont panic this is my first and last post. Remember WLIR in the 80's and 90's. That was a good alt station too. Oh well

 

[mikerock]

I have had it with FM in the NY, LI area. Whats left to listen to if you dont want to hear a track from "dark side of the moon" or "abbey road" once an hour? WBAB and 104.3 are completely without any imagination. They could playback old Scott Muney (sp) shows from the 80's and get rid of their on air staffs and no one would notice. I thought I found a station worthy of my #1 preset in RXP. I guess FUV goes back to #1. Funny thing is, I was going to send an email to RXP this morning telling them what a good station they were,except for that evening talk nonsense they had been running, when I learned about the format change.

My dilemma is, do I spend my money on satellite radio or do I buy Rosetta Stone so I can listen to one of the dozens of Spanish music stations available.

I had to vent my displeasure but dont panic this is my first and last post. Remember WLIR in the 80's and 90's. That was a good alt station too. Oh well

If Sirius did not sound like AM I would say that would be the way to go. I have Sirius but do not use it since the audio quality is crap.

Arbitron sucks. I doubt RXP's numbers are that low. People currently wearing PPM devices I suspect are complete assholes.

 

[DToTheJ]

Not sure what good it will do, someone setup a "Save Rock 101.9 RXP" over at Facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-Rock-1019-RXP/183092948414288

And today's TRI mentioned a similar one in Chicago for Q101 - something called "F Randy Michaels For Ruining Q101" or something... :

 

[hubcity]

I have had it with FM in the NY, LI area. Whats left to listen to if you dont want to hear a track from "dark side of the moon" or "abbey road" once an hour? WBAB and 104.3 are completely without any imagination. They could playback old Scott Muney (sp) shows from the 80's and get rid of their on air staffs and no one would notice. I thought I found a station worthy of my #1 preset in RXP. I guess FUV goes back to #1. Funny thing is, I was going to send an email to RXP this morning telling them what a good station they were,except for that evening talk nonsense they had been running, when I learned about the format change.

My dilemma is, do I spend my money on satellite radio or do I buy Rosetta Stone so I can listen to one of the dozens of Spanish music stations available.

I had to vent my displeasure but dont panic this is my first and last post. Remember WLIR in the 80's and 90's. That was a good alt station too. Oh well

Commercial music radio on FM is in its death throes. Discuss.

 

[UncleBozzle]

Why hasn't radio learned from it's mistakes? Young people, be it male or female don't listen to stations like 1010 WINS and WCBS AM because they just don't crave news/talk like older folks do....it's not because it's am and sounds bad. If the right product were on AM people would listen, it's that simple. If the am's will migrate to FM then maybe the corporate types should get creative with AM and put the music formats back there. Heck, Country, Top 40, modern rock/alternative, they could all have a home back where it all began. But the day they start killing FM music stations will be the day that people have no choice but to migrate to Sirius/XM or HD. Just my two cents worth.

 

[TheBigA]

If the am's will migrate to FM then maybe the corporate types should get creative with AM and put the music formats back there. Heck, Country, Top 40, modern rock/alternative, they could all have a home back where it all began.

In the markets where that's been tried, it hasn't worked. The only real music formats that still work on AM are those that attract audiences over 60, like oldies, classic country, and standards. And even though they get passable numbers, they aren't anywhere near what music stations get on FM.

The reason why people left AM in the first place was because it sounded bad. That's what killed off the big AM stations of the 60s. WABC would have continued with MusicRadio format had its share not eroded due to audiences leaving for FM. They won't be going back. We have two generations who haven't grown up with AM. They don't see it as going "back home."

 

[CTListener]

If the am's will migrate to FM then maybe the corporate types should get creative with AM and put the music formats back there. Heck, Country, Top 40, modern rock/alternative, they could all have a home back where it all began.

In the markets where that's been tried, it hasn't worked. The only real music formats that still work on AM are those that attract audiences over 60, like oldies, classic country, and standards. And even though they get passable numbers, they aren't anywhere near what music stations get on FM.

And the advertisers shun them.

 

[pjc1961]

Is WRRV 92.7/96.9 in Middletown NY the only remaining commercial alternative rock station in the region? The Cumulus station must be doing something right, as they have been primarily alternative for over 15 years.
I read an article which indicated that alternative stations tend to do better in urban areas than those featuring other modern rock formats. Apparently their audiences tend to be better educated, and have a higher percentage of female listeners, making them more attractive to advertisers.
Perhaps 'RXP should have been alternative, rather than the mishmosh of various forms of rock that they play.
BTW, in answer to the poster earlier in this thread that claimed that the group Bush is not popular, they just played Little Things, by Bush.

WRRV "The New Rock Alternative": http://www.wrrv.com/

Direct URL link for media players & devices: mms://live.cumulusstreaming.com/WRRV-FM

Just checked their "Recently Played" list and it's similar to the newer music that WRXP was playing - most importantly, without the classic rock that threw everything off kilter. Hard to say if the exact same format WRRV has would survive on the NYC airwaves...but it would have been nice to at least have given it a try and see if it would have panned out, unlike the mish-mash of old & new that 'RXP was for most of its existence.

 

[VeteranPD]

The simple answer is "NO." The format is probably considered "Poison" now. NY has as much chance of seeing this resurface as it does it for a country station.