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WJAR-TV (Providence) seeking permision to air Patriot's last game

Even though they are a secondary Patriots market. I see the league saying no to this. Wouldn't this be the same as somebody in Hartford/New Haven asking for permission to carry the Giants end of the broadcast?
 
Last I heard Providence was 24 miles from Gillette Stadium, Boston 26. This could be a special circumstance, but my guess is they --WJAR-- won't get permission.
 
Well, in CT, it is quite interesting. Those cable systems that get WWOR-TV My9 will see the Giants/Pats game--basically the NFL Net feed--which would include Comcast, Charter and Cablevision in Fairfield and New Haven Counties.

Cablevision does not carry NFL Net, but does have channel 9 (to NOT be confused with WCTX--MyTV9--UHF 59). Those who have the NYC Locals in Dish Network or DIRECTV also have 9, but DIRECTV viewers have NFL Net; not sure about Dish Network subscribers.
 
Won't happen for DMA reasons

Blackroc said:
Last I heard Providence was 24 miles from Gillette Stadium, Boston 26.
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Foxboro is in the Boston DMA, therefore Providence stations cannot air Pats-Giants.

OTA outlets for Pats-Giants will be WCVB-5 and WMUR-9.
 
Re: Won't happen for DMA reasons

chuckydoll said:
Blackroc said:
Last I heard Providence was 24 miles from Gillette Stadium, Boston 26.
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Foxboro is in the Boston DMA, therefore Providence stations cannot air Pats-Giants.

OTA outlets for Pats-Giants will be WCVB-5 and WMUR-9.
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And, I'm hearing that the portions of WMUR's viewing area that are not in the Boston DMA may be blacked out. Carroll, Coos, Grafton and Sullivan Counties may be screwed. (http://www.wmur.com/news/14917016/detail.html)

New Hampshire's senators have appealed to the NFL to allow coverage of the game on WMUR to the whole state. It is interesting that these counties seem to fare ok when the games are on ESPN. I haven't heard about WMUR being required to black out any homes during their broadcasts of those games.

Anyhow, if the NFL is are requiring WMUR to chop off about 1/2 of its geographic coverage area in order to follow the "rules", then RI viewers are probably SOL too (without an antenna that gets WCVB). I do not see how WJAR will be allowed to pick up the game unless a whole lot of exceptions are made for other New Englanders too.

Also, this begs the question: will WWOR's coverage be limited to the New York DMA? If so, that would leave cable viewers of this channel in New Haven and Middlesex Counties of CT out in the cold. Those of you in the New Haven area who are looking forward to watching the game on "My 9" may be in for a nasty surprise.

In my case, I'm waaay out in the cold - I'll have to follow the game via WFAN's radio coverage (of course featuring the "enemy's" slant on things!)

This whole NFL Network thing has become a fiasco. I really hope something is done.
 
Re: Won't happen for DMA reasons

chuckydoll said:
Blackroc said:
Last I heard Providence was 24 miles from Gillette Stadium, Boston 26.
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Foxboro is in the Boston DMA, therefore Providence stations cannot air Pats-Giants.

OTA outlets for Pats-Giants will be WCVB-5 and WMUR-9.
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In Wisconsin, the Packers/Cowboys game aired on both the Green Bay & Milwaukee markets, because of the market share of fans in the Milwaukee market.

However the NFL won't change their ruling on it. It's win win for them and their cable companies that compensate them.

Most of the people in the market can pick up WCVB off air as it is.
 
Re: Won't happen for DMA reasons

BRNout said:
I'm hearing that the portions of WMUR's viewing area that are not in the Boston DMA may be blacked out. Carroll, Coos, Grafton and Sullivan Counties may be screwed.
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Coos County is in the Portland (Maine) DMA. Carroll, Grafton and Sullivan counties are in the Burlington/Plattsburgh DMA.

BRNout said:
Also, this begs the question: will WWOR's coverage be limited to the New York DMA?
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Yes. That freezes out Mercer County NJ and most of Connecticut.

BRNout said:
In my case, I'm waaay out in the cold - I'll have to follow the game via WFAN's radio coverage (of course featuring the "enemy's" slant on things!)
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The Patriots Rock Radio Network has stations in Hartford and New London.
 
I'm all for everybody seeing this game, but why are the politicians getting involved? It's not as if they're locking the stadium and banning fans and media. The game is being broadcast. If one wants to watch it, CALL COMCAST AND ORDER THE CHANNEL. It's not ideal, but it's not difficult either.
 
Will said:
I'm all for everybody seeing this game, but why are the politicians getting involved? It's not as if they're locking the stadium and banning fans and media. The game is being broadcast. If one wants to watch it, CALL COMCAST AND ORDER THE CHANNEL. It's not ideal, but it's not difficult either.
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John Kerry is threatening Senate hearings if the NFL doesn't move the game to NBC. I'm sure Roger Goodell has already told Kerry what he can do with his threat - politely of course. ;D

First of all, I believe the Patriots have already used up their allotment of NBC/ESPN games, which I think is 5 (3 Sundays and 2 Mondays). League rules won't allow them any more. Neither is NBC allowed to take anything other than a Sunday game.

Secondly, this game is meaningless except to fans of the '72 Dolphins. Pats fans should hope that Brady, Moss, and the rest of the starters are rested and healthy for the playoffs. The object is winning the Super Bowl, not bragging rights over Don Shula & a few other old men. Better to win in Arizona in February with one loss than win that 16th game New Jersey in December with starters getting hurt, then losing in the playoffs as a result.

The Colts-Titans game NBC chose for Sunday night actually might have playoff significance (only if Cleveland wins; the Titans are in if the Browns lose). Dallas-Washington would have made more sense and garnered more viewers, but either the Cowboys have also used up their allotment of games or Fox vetoed it (which I think they're allowed to do).

Although to be fair, I do think stations in the adjacent markets to Boston & NYC should be allowed to carry the game. The resulting good-will would do wonders for the league and the NFL Network, not to mention the vastly increased viewership given who those adjacent markets are (all of New England except for maybe Burlington & northern Maine, plus Albany - a nice percentage of the country). But barring a last-minute rule change (doubtful), the game won't be on NBC.

Link: Baltimore Sun
 
KeithE4 said:
But barring a last-minute rule change (doubtful), the game won't be on NBC.
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And just a few minutes ago, "doubtful" became "fact."
 
Will said:
I'm all for everybody seeing this game, but why are the politicians getting involved? It's not as if they're locking the stadium and banning fans and media. The game is being broadcast. If one wants to watch it, CALL COMCAST AND ORDER THE CHANNEL. It's not ideal, but it's not difficult either.
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I think that this is being done out of desperation. No, I certainly don't agree with getting politicians involved - but a lot of folks are pretty frustrated by this.

Also, it's not a matter of calling Comcast and "ordering the channel." You have to call Comcast and order the "Sports package" paying for several limited-appeal channels as well. I think that there would be a lot less controversy involved with this had Comcast made it possible to order this one channel. But no, you have to order (and pay for) 5 others with it in a bundle.

All in all, the NFL wants to make extra money and Comcast wants their cut. The one in the middle is the consumer who, for forty years, has gotten these games for free or at least at a nominal cost. Now, he's over a barrel. I will not pay for a bunch of FSN regional networks just to see one game on NFLN and shouldn't have to. It is a ripoff and I don't blame people for not doing so. It's the principle of the thing. I hope that very few people pay Comcrap extra for this channel and I further hope for its failure.

In addition, the possibility of the Pats going 16-0 is not something that only interests '1972 Dolphins fans' (and I've never met anyone admitting to be this). It represents a record that many thought would never be matched in today's NFL. Most REAL football fans have interest in this. If they pull it off, the achievement makes pro football history.

Also, this business of the Pats giving the starters a rest is silly. The team has home field advantage and a week off following this game. Plenty of time to rest. They play to win at all times, which is why they are bidding for a 16-0 record. If they took that advice, they'd be 14-2 and we wouldn't care as much about this game.
 
It seems WJAR got more than it bargained for when it asked permission to air the game.

An across the board clearence.Althugh it seems THE NFL's real reason is to stick it to cable companies who do not wat o carry NFL Network on a more basic tier.
o the NFL seems to be giving it to the cable companies.
 
An interesting outcome but I must applaud it. I do wonder, though, about what ulterior motives were involved with the decision to share the broadcast with 2 other networks. Nonetheless, I won't look a gift horse in the mouth....
 
KeithE4 said:
The Colts-Titans game NBC chose for Sunday night actually might have playoff significance (only if Cleveland wins; the Titans are in if the Browns lose). Dallas-Washington would have made more sense and garnered more viewers, but either the Cowboys have also used up their allotment of games or Fox vetoed it (which I think they're allowed to do).
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I would guess the latter, since it was a Buck/Aikman game, and usually NFC East rival matchups on Fox usually warrant those two in the booth.
 
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