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WNYH Planning to Downgrade?

Ex-RadioTV

Ex-RadioTV

It appears as though 740 WNYH Huntington is preparing to downgrade their operation due to an impending sale of a part of their transmitter site which encompasses two towers of their 4-tower array. They’re licensed for 25kW-DA-D, with post-sunset flea-power of 43 Watts.
Effective immediately an STA authorizes ND operation at 1/4 power for the next 6 months.
WNYH ND STA Authorization
 
I've been out of the Long Island loop now for 30 years here in Coal Country PA. Begging patience here from you former LIRR brethren: Does WNYH have any FM translator(s) aside from the reported one on 100.7, or are they in the hunt for one?
I ask partially because the one local AM WPPA here, formerly 5-tower directional day and night, recently moved to lower their 5000 day wattage to 3000, go omni, with like 2 watts at night, and feed their recent new FM translator.
WNYH sounds as though it might be finding those 25,000 watts and that swell collection of towers a bit cumbersome itself. They've been crackling at that intensity now for over 30 years, originally as WGSM. And that megaphone goes right through the entire coverage area of their Islip extension-speaker on 100.7 anyway.
'WGSM' used to be an omni 1000-watt daytimer. Different owners now, of course. But like here in NE PA and elsewhere, no doubt there's an eye on such wattage having outlived its uselessness. Especially when translators can do the same job not getting ratings.
 
I checked the other stations in the Northeast on 740 AM. We know 740 is a Canadian clear channel frequency reserved for CFZM (formerly CBL) Toronto about 350 miles away. So WNYH can't have much power after sunset.

But who would WNYH have to protect with its daytime signal? The nearest station to the north is WJIB Cambridge MA, next to Boston. But WJIB is only 250 watts by day. So WNYH doesn't have to worry too much about WJIB.

Then there's WJFP in Chester PA, just south of Philadelphia, a little over 100 miles to the southeast. That station is 1,000 watts by day. So I guess WNYH can't run more than a few thousand watts if it's non-directional. It has to somewhat protect WJIB and WJFP.
 
WJFP is indeed the reason for that southwest protection. As 'WVCH', religious for decades, they were also a 1000-watt omni at the time WGSM was 1000 and omni.
As a DXing kid, cheaply provincial as I was, I smugly thought that all those weaker stations that weren't from the extremely populated and elite 'home' of NYC and Long Island were -- how to put it -- second citizens?
After having matured somewhat over the years (but still a DXer) I learned that 50,000 watt 'WQXR' from NYC and 10,000 watt WHLI used directional patterns in the daytime to steer clear of two Pennsylvania stations of lower power that already had established their signal area before WQXR and WHLI wanted more wattage. 1010 WINS needed to pull in and 'watch it' to avoid their newly-approved daytime 50,000 watt signal from spilling onto 1010's in Baltimore and Norfolk VA and those FCC-authorized signals.
Someone here will know if the distance between the physical tower sites or of the 'downtown' spot of the cities of license is the more crucial factor in any decision. I'd guess 'tower' coordinates, but what do I know, lol?

WNYH's southwest null is very vivid in the day along a stretch of the SOB Expressway's northern lanes. Wicked sounding audio. I'd venture that, being 25,000 or even 20,000 watts the slightest tilt of WNYH juice sent to the meters of any of those sticks could send a lot more interference at Chester PA than their old WGSM's 1000 watt omni ever would.
 
Gregg. said:
I checked the other stations in the Northeast on 740 AM. We know 740 is a Canadian clear channel frequency reserved for CFZM (formerly CBL) Toronto about 350 miles away. So WNYH can't have much power after sunset.

But who would WNYH have to protect with its daytime signal? The nearest station to the north is WJIB Cambridge MA, next to Boston. But WJIB is only 250 watts by day. So WNYH doesn't have to worry too much about WJIB.

Then there's WJFP in Chester PA, just south of Philadelphia, a little over 100 miles to the southeast. That station is 1,000 watts by day. So I guess WNYH can't run more than a few thousand watts if it's non-directional. It has to somewhat protect WJIB and WJFP.
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WJIB is indeed 250 but plana to move to 720 kHz soon but with 1 kW, then 5kW.
 
Ex-RadioTV said:
Just a big old dead carrier from 740 WNYH this morning here at 10:00 AM. Anyone have ears on their 100.7 translator W264DG?
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11:30 pm here in Smithtown, and 100.7 is quiet as a mouse. I wish someone would turn it off, then I could enjoy some Christmas music from WHUD. 🎅
 
WNYH 740 AM now sounds somewhat weaker, at my listening location.
Perhaps they used their few days off the air to implement their plan to change to a lower power omnidirectional signal.
 
Posting here as it involves the translator for WNYH, 102.7. The translator was running oldies for several weeks now with no commercials or announcers. Music primarily from the early 60s with a smattering of 50s and 70s. Within the last few weeks they made brief mention of needing advertisers and gave out a phone number. Taking my wife to a doctors appointment we were listening to this. Coming back from the doctor it was religious in some language. Guess they gave up. But from what I have read they change formats frequently.
 
WNYH has applied for an extension of their STA, while they figure out what kind of revised / downgraded license they will file for. Guessing whatever it is, it’ll be worse than the 6.25 kW non-D than what the STA gives them.
By that I mean it really shouldn’t take another 6 months for them to figure out what they’re going to do, should it?

WNYH STA Extension Filing
 


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