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WOULD YOU LISTEN TO REV. JEREMIAH WRIGHT IF HE HAD A NYC RADIO SHOW?

Nate Wesley said:
godisawoman said:
I'm so tired of things being taken out of context when it comes to blacks saying things whites dislike...however when someone like Imus says "nappy headed hoe" refrencing college educated black athletes or Michael Richards commenting on how 40 years ago (whites) used to hang (blacks) from trees...we blacks are supposed to bite our tongues sit and bare it..

pastor Wright grew up in a time when he witnessed his people being treated as animals and now he's witnessing a time when one of his own brothers has the chance to be something so many are routing against.....the PRESIDENT of the United States...everything he said is in all honesty is very true..this country was and still is very racist and has yet to redeem itself from the hundreds of years of blood shed it caused on so many..hence the native americans and the african americans......so personally.. his passion I totally respect and I overstand where it comes from....sorry for those of you who think he's anti white....no..I beg to differ the man is just pro-black....we have to build ourselves up...because this country continues to tear us down.....

these are just my thoughts...proceed

I'm not sure folks are ready for such a discussion, GISW. And that's from a sympathetic reader.

So, we're all too stupid to have this discussion because what we say doesn't fit into your liberal paradigm? Just substitute the word "white" for "black" in the reverend's sermons and see how they sound.

I am quite tired of historical injustice being an excuse for racism and for double standards. Everyone is NOT out to get blacks. Furthermore, not all whites are implicitly guilty of having ancestors who oppressed blacks. Mine didn't - they weren't even here during slavery. And, when they got here, they had their own issues. Judging from the last names of a lot of "white" people, I'd bet that my comment is pretty typical. So, get over it.

You know what? A lot of our ancestors faced prejudice and hardship. Blacks aren't alone in this.

Glad "godisawoman" brought Imus up in this discussion because it actually illustrates the hypocracy we're dealing with here. Imus' comments (bad as they were) didn't even come close to Wright's continued anti-white, anti-semitic spew. Did you actually hear his slur against Italians? Any Italian American who could sit in the pew through that IS stupid to take such abuse. So, Imus was fired and disgraced (for a while at least) for his one-time comment; yet Reverend Wright is being hailed by some as a hero. Or at least with the "oh, you should understand where he comes from" crap. Hey, why not say the same thing for Michael Richards? Maybe you should try to understand where he comes from too. What if he was beaten up as a kid or something? What, that's not acceptable? Well nor is the same comment about Wright - who actually grew up in a pretty affluent area of Philadelphia. He was hardly oppressed in private school!

A racist is a racist. Michael Richards is one. So is Reverend Wright. Wrong is wrong and they should both be treated in same way. Or has the goal of "equality" been forgotten?

Signed,
"A Typical White Guy"
 
@ A Typical White Guy

^^it's funny how you mention we're "justifying" the comments of pastor Wright...yet in the same breath you're passifying the injustices that we've faced...and continue to face here in America...key word is CONTINUE to face...slavery isn't something that you go through and get over....I'm sorry you think this country is one big melting pot where everone is just getting along and should forget their past irregardless of the permanent negative mark it's left on the psyche of a PEOPLE..but let me inform you...it isn't easy for one to overcome when your heritage..and language are stripped from you...and the country you've built continues to turn it's back on you. 

I totally overstand why the poster prior to you forewarned us to leave this discussion alone because some things cannot, and will not be resolved over night...hell it hasn't be resolved over the past 400 + years

signed respectfully,


GODISAWOMAN
 
fortmill said:
Signed,
"A Typical White Guy"

Unfortunately, that is probably true, which proves Wright's point.
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Yeah, and why this is all so deeply depressing. I'm seeing a lot of folks listening to demagogues exploit Rev. Wright's sermons, and simply nodding their heads, choosing to hear only what they want to hear. That's tremendously childish. And politically calculated, I believe. I think we have the new Swift Boat issue of the 2008 election, and it's going to be uglier than before. Now would I listen to him on the radio? Maybe on occasion. Doubt it would ever happen, however.
 
Better to be someone who sees things as they are than someone who is brainwashed by the hateful ideas of those who profess to be "inclusive." If you can't really understand the ideas that Wright professes and contrast that with the verbal diarrhea of a pitiful and harmless old wino on the radio, then it is you who truly doesn't get it.

Because I can actually see and hear the difference in magnitude between an Imus and a Rev. Wright, then I get the sarcastic remarks. And the smug condescension. Then again, I knew I'd be labeled for daring to take on one of the four pillars of today's progressivism. Particularly on the New York board.

What I see here is classic transference: accuse the one who is not bigoted of being just that for not accepting your ideas. And, by the way, I didn't come up with "average white person" alone. Actually it was Obama who made that comment about his allegedly bigoted grandmother. I see that flew over your heads as well....
 
Rev. Wright has backed out of a $125/plate awards banquet in his honor that has been scheduled for Saturday, March 29, 2008, in Texas.

The title of the Conference that Rev. Wright has backed out of this weekend, due to "security reasons":


National Black Church Studies Forum and Black Church Consultation

State of the Black Church Summit and Awards Banquet

Commemorating the 40th Anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s Life, Legacy, and Death


Oddly, Martin Luther King Jr. would have been very unlikely to have "backed out" of an engagement due to "security reasons"..... Difference of leaders then.... and today's "leaders" . . .

http://www.brite.tcu.edu/


http://www.brite.tcu.edu/degrees/sbc2.htm


- March 26th, 2008 -

A Brite Divinity School official has received notice that Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. will not attend the State of the Black Church Summit and Awards Banquet. All events scheduled for Friday and Saturday will continue as planned. The new location of the Summit is Paul Quinn College. The Awards Banquet will be held at Friendship-West Baptist Church.



Brite Divinity School's Response to Rev. Wright's Recognition:

"After careful review, and understanding the sincere concerns many have voiced in response to recent media reports, Brite has for the following reasons affirmed the Black Church Studies Program’s decision, made months ago, to recognize the contributions of the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. at the fourth Annual State of the Black Church Awards Banquet. Previous award recipients include the Rev. Dr. Albert Chew, the Rev. Dr. Zan Holmes, the Rev. Dr. William A. Lawson, and the Rev. Dr. Katie G. Cannon.

Dr. Wright served as pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago from 1972-2008. During this period, Trinity UCC grew from 87 adults to over 8,700 members. Today this south Chicago congregation provides numerous ministries ranging from Food Share, Dance and Math tutorials to small groups. The church tithes its annual revenues to support other churches, denominational missions, and agencies supporting mission work in Liberia, Haiti, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Ghana, Brazil, and South Africa. Trinity has also birthed four new congregations of the United Church of Christ--two in Atlanta, Georgia, one in Gary, Indiana, and one in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. In 2001 Dr. Wright was the Wells Preacher for Brite’s Ministers Week, a continuing education event that draws pastors and lay leaders from across the nation. No Wells Preacher in recent years has been better received than Dr. Wright.

Contrary to media claims that Wright preaches racial hatred, church leaders who have observed his ministry describe him as a faithful preacher of the gospel who has ministered in a context radically different from that of many middle class Americans. A retired white Disciples of Christ minister recently wrote:

"When I heard Jeremiah Wright at Ministers Week a few years back--before I had heard of Obama for President--I thought Wright one of the best preachers I'd heard and certainly not just among Black preachers. His content was orthodox Christianity with much scripture focus on justice, peace and compassion--a call to be like Jesus in concern for the poor, the downtrodden and despised among us. . ."

In response to the criticism that his Black Liberation Theology promotes Black separatism, Wright stated in a March 2 FOXNews broadcast that "The African-centered point of view does not assume superiority, nor does it assume separatism. It assumes Africans speaking for themselves as subjects of history, not as objects of history."

Brite does not endorse all of the statements or views of any of the church leaders recognized by the Divinity School. Brite is recognizing Dr. Wright for his forty-year ministry linking divine justice and social justice. This is work that Brite seeks to further through its mission of educating women and men—through its programs of instruction, research and scholarship, and other forms of church and community service—for the ministry, witness, and outreach of the church of Jesus Christ in the world."
 
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