K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
It would depend on whether or not the Media Bureau considered it a minor or major change in facilities. If the latter, they would have to wait until a filing window (I think).
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WRCR Haverstraw is now carrying WABC radio
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It would depend on whether or not the Media Bureau considered it a minor or major change in facilities. If the latter, they would have to wait until a filing window (I think).
If this were 1920, and you had money to start a business, and your choices were automobile brake linings or buggy whips (for horse-drawn carriages), which would you choose to invest your time and money in? The entire discussion of investing any money, much less more money, in, of all things, AM radio, is insane.
This is not a prediction. The WRCR phone lines, all of which are listed on the station’s WRCR.com website have been disconnected. That goes for the studio ‘call-in’ number, the office number and the office fax number.
Maintaining a local or toll-free phone number is required by § 73.1125 of the FCC’s rules.
Non-compliance has begun.
Giddyup.
The problem is that 10 kw on that high dial position... and just 1 kw at night... will not be at all useful in covering the New York City Metro Survey area. Daytime, it is the equivalent of less than 200 watts on 550 and at night it is the equivalent of less than 50 watts.While there are few stations on the X-Band, this just does not have the needed power to be useful for anything.
If it is "portable" I'd try to move to the Albanydd area. Or to the far end of Long Island to accompany the little FM out there.
OTOH, this might be part of a multi-station plan on both bands to expand WABC coverage in NY, NJ and CT.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Oh, I see. Make a statement, and when it is challenged only then do you post any facts supporting your accusations.
In other words: Why didn't you say that in the first place?
I would imagine that the FCC would understand that a station that is going through a transfer and possibly moving its offices might not have all its services installed immediately.
Yet a very successful broadcaster, Buddy Schula in Buffalo, just bought an AM station.
Looking at a coverage map, you're right, David. It does still cover a lot of population, but not into NYC's metro during the day and certainly not at night.
It's really amazing how little that much RF covers way up there at the top of the dial. It seems odd to me that a station at, say, 970 would move up there and have to throw out so much more RF for the same coverage.
Of course, many older AM radios can't even pick the station up, either. Not sure that's a very big deal, but it's another negative for sure.
I'm sitting outside listening to a local classical FM station on my 60s Admiral portable and just realized I wouldn't be able to even tune in the station on this radio (or most that I own, for that matter) if I were in the coverage area.
I got a real swell C Crane a couple weeks back and have been pulling an X-band station out of Maryland playing oldies in during the overnights on it. I was confused as to why I'd never pulled them in before, and then I realized the C Crane is one of the very first radios I've got that can even pick up stations on that part of the dial...
Not quite sure what your problem is, my friend. I checked the phone numbers today, and they weren’t working.
Didn’t know that yesterday. Don’t know if it might change tomorrow.
But for moment at least, they are out of compliance with the rules.
Be well.
Do you consider an telephone outage of a week or more to be out of compliance? When its the fault of the telephone company and the stations local # doesnt work?
Wanna see how to the letter of the law you are?
RadioInsight didn't even looked into the WRCR owner change.
My European car radio tunes the X-band in 9kHz steps, up to 1711kHz. No, I've got no idea why, either.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Given how unusual that is, I wonder if there is something amiss with this deal.
There is nothing in LMS since WRCR's license renewal back in January 2022.
InsideRadio had an article on Friday confirming the sale. It also stated that according to “a WABC spokesman”, the current simulcast is only a temporary format.
From Insideradio
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
However, "a WABC spokesman" is not as credible a source as the FCC database. And IR has been fooled before.
Update: Lance published confirmation of the sale 🙂
WRCR Sale To Red Apple Media Details
Red Apple Media will pay $600,000 to acquire 1700 WRCR Haverstraw NY from Alex Medakovich's Alexander Broadcasting. The sale filing
radioinsight.com
I remember when the old, original WRRC 1300 had three sticks and sent their signal NW. Was once driving through Nyack and heard the small back lobe of 1290 WGLI from Long Island louder than WRRC.
I'm curious / skeptical about WLIR's Nassau-Suffolk numbers. Back when 107.1 was WWHB, neighbour to a laundromat in a Hampton Bays strip mall, they showed up briefly in a Nassau-Suffolk book -- long ago.
And I believe WLNG doesn't subscribe anymore, but when THEY did, at best, they'd show up with 0.4 in N-S. That was while getting 9's in the local Riverhamptons book -- top station by far. Does this mean that, *generally* in 2025 an FM station on 107.1 out by the ducks and windmills is actually popular enough to be getting steady 1.1's and 1.3's -- numbers in Nassau-Suffolk that WLNG never got?
And that latest series of eyebrow-raising numbers for WLIR are for the winter months when no one lived out there.
I'm curious / skeptical about WLIR's Nassau-Suffolk numbers. Back when 107.1 was WWHB, neighbour to a laundromat in a Hampton Bays strip mall, they showed up briefly in a Nassau-Suffolk book -- long ago.
And I believe WLNG doesn't subscribe anymore, but when THEY did, at best, they'd show up with 0.4 in N-S. That was while getting 9's in the local Riverhamptons book -- top station by far. Does this mean that, *generally* in 2025 an FM station on 107.1 out by the ducks and windmills is actually popular enough to be getting steady 1.1's and 1.3's -- numbers in Nassau-Suffolk that WLNG never got?
And that latest series of eyebrow-raising numbers for WLIR are for the winter months when no one lived out there.
You know as well as I do, Steve, that you don't get numbers where your signal doesn't reach. That should be axiomatic. Yeah, certain geeks with higher-than-average-quality equipment might be able to pull in marginal signals, and tolerate the noise/crosstalk/fading/capturing of stronger stations closer by. Those guys -- and they're mostly guys -- are a tiny fraction of any available audience, even assuming they can get past the Nielsen screening process to receive a diary or PPM. Everyone else thinks no station is worth that much trouble, and we're all weird nerds. And BTW, the ducks prefer AM and the windmills are of your mind.
Hya Neil ..... Dunno what you were getting at with your post.
As to receiving equipment, I'm strictly an AM DX guy. Regarding FM, I know that stations come in well going up some hills and not so well when driving down the dame hill. That's about it.
What with all the suspected or hinted rigmarole Mr. Cats is alleged to be concerned with at times, I had been questioning the accuracy/legitimacy of WLIR's string of wintertime shares.
From what I recall, the 4-station Country 107.1 Y-cast (of which WWHB was a part) didn't have much ratings success and changed ownership.
Maybe another way to pose my questions would be to ask if WLIR is a 24/7 simulcast of WABC. To me, those WLIR numbers in the overall Nassau-Suffolk market look way out of place, considering that there are two 107.1 translators between H. Bays and the Nassau-Queens line, plus that no East End station ever had numbers like that on Long Island.
(I will rescind my 1970 preconception of ducks on Eastern L.I. as soon as some professional athletic team named after sustenance updates theirs for local provincialism and calls itself the Mighty Pomegranates or the Fighting Vintages).
As to receiving equipment, I'm strictly an AM DX guy. Regarding FM, I know that stations come in well going up some hills and not so well when driving down the dame hill. That's about it.
What with all the suspected or hinted rigmarole Mr. Cats is alleged to be concerned with at times, I had been questioning the accuracy/legitimacy of WLIR's string of wintertime shares.
From what I recall, the 4-station Country 107.1 Y-cast (of which WWHB was a part) didn't have much ratings success and changed ownership.
Maybe another way to pose my questions would be to ask if WLIR is a 24/7 simulcast of WABC. To me, those WLIR numbers in the overall Nassau-Suffolk market look way out of place, considering that there are two 107.1 translators between H. Bays and the Nassau-Queens line, plus that no East End station ever had numbers like that on Long Island.
(I will rescind my 1970 preconception of ducks on Eastern L.I. as soon as some professional athletic team named after sustenance updates theirs for local provincialism and calls itself the Mighty Pomegranates or the Fighting Vintages).
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