WRKO drops Coast to Coast for Howie Carr re-runs (1200 is coming!)

[Don Juan]

Not so much of a political agenda, but a company that knows their product, and their agenda, and super serves them.

But I think that what Salem has shown it is super-serving is not its special audience but its love of making money. When the opportunity presented itself to make more money by LMAing 1150 in Boston to a Florida company that does Spanish religion, the commitment to conservative talk went out the window.

Nothing wrong with that, really; it's the good old American way. But why pretend that it represents some sort of higher calling?

Who's pretending? It's the same calling every other station is answering.

For a station to be sucessful, it has to know their audience, their lifestyle, their habits, etc. This is what Salem is good at, and hope to make some money along the way. No one looks to them as a nonprofit.

Despite its long-standing appeal to White Anglo-Saxon evangelical protestants

The majority of their audeince is made up of Catholics, believe it or not.

And, btw, they have a lot of black evangelicals listening to.

but don't try to make that focus sound like something it most certainly is not.

Who is trying to make it something that it is not?

Moreover, the REAL hypocrisy rears its head when the company's conservative talkers rail against the presence in this country of the very Hispanics that some of its own stations cater to.

Which Salem talkers have you heard rail against Hispanics?
(More anecdotal talk from out board liberal? Probably none, cuz you can't hear them here...and I dont think you would go thru the trouble of listening to them elsewhere.)

 

[DanStrassberg]

The majority of their audeince is made up of Catholics, believe it or not.

I believe that the majority of WWDJ's audience is Roman Catholic. But WWDJ is en espanol. The vast majority of Hispanics are Roman Catholic. I would be flabbergasted to learn that Roman Catholics make up the the majority of listeners to WEZE, WROL, WMCA, WFIL, WNTP, KSKY or indeed the majority of listeners to most any of Salem's preaching/teaching or Conservative talk signals. I realize that the Catholic Church in the US is concerned about declining attendance but are you suggesting that US lapsed Catholics are deserting wholesale to evangelical Protestantism? If so, you need to provide some proof.

 

[radiorama1]

Which Salem talkers have you heard rail against Hispanics?

Mike "This Is America So Speak English" Gallagher.

 

[raccoonradio]

btw I remember reading that the Catholic Archdiocese of Boston was to buy AM 800 (then WCCM?) in Lawrence but suddenly withdrew...and shortly thereafter, the priest sexual abuse scandals burst upon
the news. They knew their financial resources would be needed for other purposes...

 

[Don Juan]

The majority of their audeince is made up of Catholics, believe it or not.

I believe that the majority of WWDJ's audience is Roman Catholic. But WWDJ is en espanol. The vast majority of Hispanics are Roman Catholic. I would be flabbergasted to learn that Roman Catholics make up the the majority of listeners to WEZE, WROL, WMCA, WFIL, WNTP, KSKY or indeed the majority of listeners to most any of Salem's preaching/teaching or Conservative talk signals. I realize that the Catholic Church in the US is concerned about declining attendance but are you suggesting that US lapsed Catholics are deserting wholesale to evangelical Protestantism? If so, you need to provide some proof.

I was told by Ed Walsh, the then GM of WEZE, who said their most recent survey said that Catholics made up their largest block of listeners. Now, it may have to do with the fact that there are so many people who identify as Catholics in the Northeast, as oposed to the numerous protestant denominations and independent churches (how many different protestant demons are there?).

Also, they don't have to be Catholics deserting...nor do they have to be lapsed Catholics.

Much of the programming is pretty mainstream Christian, so most Christians can listen without it being affilliated with their denomination. (i.e..Focus on the Family, Songtime, etc.)

 

[HHH]

Don Juan wrote:

" (Salem has) not so much of a political agenda, but a company that knows their product, and their agenda, and super serves them.

Not so much different than companies that specialize in Country or Rock, etc."


Not sure I agree. If they had a country or rock format with the ratings of their talk O & Os in NYC, LA, Cleveland, etc, do you really think that they would keep them going? Nah. Salem's political agenda seems pretty obvious. Yes, they might flip one here or there (like Boston), but look at how many of those Salem talk stations exist nationwide and look at their numbers. Why else would they tolerate such low audience figures on some pretty good signals (New York and LA are 50KW....two of the lowest-rated 50Ks in major markets).

 

[Don Juan]

Don Juan wrote:

" (Salem has) not so much of a political agenda, but a company that knows their product, and their agenda, and super serves them. Not so much different than companies that specialize in Country or Rock, etc."

Not sure I agree. If they had a country or rock format with the ratings of their talk O & Os in NYC, LA, Cleveland, etc, do you really think that they would keep them going?

No. Because they can't make money with a country or rock station with a 0.5 rating. With religion, you can. In that format, they know the audience, and superserve them.

Salem's political agenda seems pretty obvious.

And I guess it's pretty obvious Greater Media has an Adult Contemporary agenda too? Or that ABC has a politcal agenda too?

look at how many of those Salem talk stations exist nationwide and look at their numbers. Why else would they tolerate such low audience figures on some pretty good signals.
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Because it makes them money.

Those that own Salem stock care about making money.

 

[raccoonradio]

weird--Howie returns from vaca today and now the comp schedule page of WRKO.com lists Howie reruns 1-5 am again?

http://www.wrko.com/complete-schedule

>>Tue. Feb 23
Mid. Jerry Doyle
1 am Howie Carr

 

[EnterCommunicator]

They probably figured Howie's show is too topical to air re-runs other then day of broadcasts.

 

[raccoonradio]

Though they could have run a re-run of the show from day before with guest host (Avi Nelson on 2 days,
Col. Hunt on 3 days). Yes, they'd want it to be timely, etc

Of course on other shows like Laura Ingraham--on the show itself, not an overnight rebroadcast--there are reruns (Best Of Laura) that can go back months...some Best of Howie shows (on the reg. 3-7 pm slot)
can do that too, on holidays like Christmas or New Yrs Day but they may figure listenership will be low anyway.

Did Entercom balk at a certain cost for running Red Eye? (much like someone who downloads software
for a trial period, free, but decides not to spend for it when trial runs out) Would rather run Howie (local,
popular?) Again when I tune in tonight we'll see if Howie reruns are indeed back but the sched page
does say he's to run 1-5 am Red Eye was listed for last night (a best of itself, I think) but from tonight on it says Howie

 

[raccoonradio]

Indeed tonight at 1 am RKO went to Howie from 10 hrs earlier...just as well as I missed the 5 pm hour and I'm
just about to hear it now (3 am)

So much for Red Eye? Doug McIntyre may have gotten some fans with his debut last week but now, unless RKO changes AGAIN, people will have to try him on WABC. Don't know who'd pick him up in Boston if not RKO.
TKK has Hendrie, BZ Leveille, KOX (to be XKS) Coast to Coast

 

[DToTheJ]

Doug McIntyre... Don't know who'd pick him up in Boston if not RKO. TKK has Hendrie, BZ Leveille, KOX (to be XKS) Coast to Coast...

And WWZN has Brother Stair. ;D

 

[raccoonradio]

though I thought Santos got some prog. talk for those hours?
Red Eye is from Citadel; I think TKK's Batchelor is from them too

 

[EnterCommunicator]

racoon when do you sleep? ;D

 

[raccoonradio]

4-10 am usually, as I work nights! Though I have a more normal sched on weekends.

 

[Don Juan]

Last night (early morning Tuesday), RKO was running Howie re-runs again...no sign of red-eye radio.

Anyone know why?

 

[raccoonradio]

I mentioned earlier that I saw on RKO's schedule page that Howie reruns were back, after one week. Note that Howie had fill ins last week (Col. Hunt & Avi Nelson, and Howie got grief for both...) Maybe they wanted to try out Red Eye in that slot, but a week later it's back to Howie

--maybe Entercom wants to save money; if Red Eye would have cost them anything, and if budgets are very
tight, they may have figured it'd be better to just re-run Howie, and besides, it's local and maybe he will
"win new listeners". At the start of the rebroadcast, at 1:05 am or so, there was an announcement/promo
saying to tune in at 3 pm to hear Howie. Maybe some haven't really heard him yet so this is a chance for
Entercom to woo new listeners

--I wonder if WTKK may scoop up Red Eye. Only reason they wouldn't is they already run Phil Hendrie from TRN
in that slot, and that costs them very little if any $ to run...but TKK already deals with Citadel with the
John Batchelor show and perhaps TKK will grab this show. Otherwise I don't know who would run it,
and new Red Eye fans may just have to settle for tuning in on WABC for now

 

[raccoonradio]

On 77 WABC, McIntyre was running down the stations running him including a new one in Alabama;
"and of course, we have 'RKO in Boston". Maybe he hasn't been told...or RKO will run a best of- him on weekends, or...?

 

[DToTheJ]

Does the "RER" show have its own website? (A Google search comes up empty.) I'd be curious to read their "Affiliates" page.

 

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