They play just as much 80's music as they do 70's music and hardly ever play 60's music. Would it hurt them to say, "Rock and Roll Hits of the 60's,70's and 80's" instead of just "...60's and 70's?" Also they need to update their website and change the website address. It's too long and they never even say "rockin' hits" anyway (www.rockinhits971.com) --one more vent...the dj just said "that was Gerry Rafferty with "Somebody's Baby" ......it's Jackson Browne, not Gerry Rafferty! They need to get their "stuff" together. But I'm glad they got rid of that cheesy Tom Kent from 7 p.m. to midnight.
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WRQQ - why don't they say 'rock & roll hits of the 60's,70's AND 80's?
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lash
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You just posted the mistakes their jocks are doing, and then you called one of the best jocks of all time cheesy. Go back to high school! Tom Kent was the best thing on the station.
If anyone sounds like they're in high school, it's you. You don't have to slam somone just because they have an opinion about something or someone. Tom Kent does not fit the format of a classic hits station. And way too often, they say "60's and 70's..." and then go right into a song from 1982 like "Gypsy" by Fleetwood Mac. If you own your own station, then why don't you add Tom Kent?
Peeeeeople! Relax. yes, they are playing 60's 70's and 80's. So why not call it that? Their perogative, I guess. As for the Jackson Browne goof... who among us hasn't misspoken (on the air and off.) Whatever. Unless it happens consistently. As for TKTKTK Tom Kent. I had the pleasure of working with TK in Washington DC many years ago. He is a pro, and I will miss hearing him on the air. Now, everyone just enjoy a nice saucer of milk. ;D
Sorry lash, I gotta tell you, I find it amazing that Kent's still on the air anywhere, other than the fact that stations are to
lazy to pay local talent or sell advertising after 6P. It's a lame way to subject listeners to a bunch of goofy jokes, unfunny commentary,
it's not about the music and it takes away from the magic of "local and live" that stations should try to project to keep listeners
from bolting to XM, online, etc. Commit to the community, sound top notch - the talent's there and relatively cheap - and
give the listeners what they want and your numbers will go up. Kent does nothing for the demographic except force attempted
listenership to another station that will be their choice on the car radio on the way to work. Lose, lose and lose situation.
That being said the talent should know the songs on the playlist and WRQQ needs to grow some you know what's and stop
playing it so safe with such a bland, limited playlist. The burnout factor is not looking good.
Cumulus is taking the lead in allowing listeners to never listen to ANY radio station again.
lazy to pay local talent or sell advertising after 6P. It's a lame way to subject listeners to a bunch of goofy jokes, unfunny commentary,
it's not about the music and it takes away from the magic of "local and live" that stations should try to project to keep listeners
from bolting to XM, online, etc. Commit to the community, sound top notch - the talent's there and relatively cheap - and
give the listeners what they want and your numbers will go up. Kent does nothing for the demographic except force attempted
listenership to another station that will be their choice on the car radio on the way to work. Lose, lose and lose situation.
That being said the talent should know the songs on the playlist and WRQQ needs to grow some you know what's and stop
playing it so safe with such a bland, limited playlist. The burnout factor is not looking good.
Cumulus is taking the lead in allowing listeners to never listen to ANY radio station again.
Other truth in image liners: "Mix 92.9, playing the same songs that were popular twenty-plus years ago, while seldom adding anything new." Or, "The Rock at 105.9, playing the same 250 songs every day."
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lash
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So you guys feel that there are better talents on the air at night in Nashville then TTK.
I haven't heard any that come very close! Eddie Stubbs perhaps! His knowledge of the music he plays makes him worth listening too.
With oldies stations changing formats, classic hits becomes the format that a show like TTK works on. Anyone remember dayparted shows like "Monday Night At The Oldies"? You feature Tom like that and give it some promotion.
After all, nights remains a weak daypart.
I haven't heard any that come very close! Eddie Stubbs perhaps! His knowledge of the music he plays makes him worth listening too.
With oldies stations changing formats, classic hits becomes the format that a show like TTK works on. Anyone remember dayparted shows like "Monday Night At The Oldies"? You feature Tom like that and give it some promotion.
After all, nights remains a weak daypart.
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Mr. Old Guy
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So you guys feel that there are better talents on the air at night in Nashville then TTK.
Yes we do. Kents show is a bad fit for 97.1. The music he plays fits the old format better than the current one. The syndicated feel of an evening show just sounds bad. And Kent is no very good. It is like the afternoon guy turns out the lights and locks the doors at 7 and Coyote & Cathey sign on at 5:30. Kind of reminds me of the old Local sunrise till Local sunset AM stations.
btw, what happened to Rob Micheals?
Yes we do. Kents show is a bad fit for 97.1. The music he plays fits the old format better than the current one. The syndicated feel of an evening show just sounds bad. And Kent is no very good. It is like the afternoon guy turns out the lights and locks the doors at 7 and Coyote & Cathey sign on at 5:30. Kind of reminds me of the old Local sunrise till Local sunset AM stations.
btw, what happened to Rob Micheals?
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lash
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So you guys are against syndicated programming of all kinds? Dellila, Lia, Bob and Tom etc.etc. TTK was and is one of the best jocks in the hey day of Top 40, and still sounds great. Just my opinion. I'll keep going up and down the dial to find anyone in Nashville, aside from Eddie, with talent at night.
But I do agree on the repitition in the music. Its everywhere, on every format. Add the lack of personality, and indeed its destroying radio, and sending people to Satt. radio.
But I do agree on the repitition in the music. Its everywhere, on every format. Add the lack of personality, and indeed its destroying radio, and sending people to Satt. radio.
Lash - I am not a huge fan of syn, I personally feel radios only hope for tomorrow is to connect with the hearts of local listeners that feel
like they are part of the local energy or team. Radio's fate, the die-hard listeners are getting older every day and radio is gearing younger everyday and the loyalty factor is all but gone for listeners under (approx.) 25. Saving a few bucks and giving listeners boring radio with
no local feel is taking advantage of them for the short term. In smaller markets than Nashville, exposing them to horrible local talent vs.
syndication/satellite is just as bad. But, in a market like Nashville, a sense of being part of the local life seems to make much more sense
in terms of better sound and revenue.
That being said, paying attention to doing things right seems to payoff better than throwing some show from someone's basement onto the air from 500 miles away that doesn't even know what cities they are broadcasting to. Try listening to 102.5 after Lulu and Trish or on weekends. It's lonely and that's why the station, while better, isn't any real competition. Some shows, like Delilah, surprise me in ratings, although Delilah got Arbed recently. I have questioned her popularity for some time, and I guess I've fianlly gotten old and sentimental enough to actually be able to listen myself (a little, but I'm not her demo.) Could Mix be a share higher with live at night? I dunno, really. Possibly, but she's possibly an exception. Bob & Tom, John Boy & Billy, Bob and Sheri, Tom Joyner and all of Talks Talkers have various merits. Most of them are talkers not music-based. Delilah is music based. Go figure.
I have no malice toward Tom Kent, other than he doesn't fit WRQQ. Delilah, at night, doesn't fit WRQQ. WRQQ can ONLY succeed if Dickert
is allowed to use his own instincts and not the pencil pushers at Cumulus. He's seasoned and one of the best, he knows Nashville's legendary love of Rock like NO ONE and I don't believe for a second that Three Dog Night is HIS idea of Classic Hits. Tom Kent is merely
playing it wrong for WRQQ -- not the nation. WRQQ will fade away faster than Oldies 97 did if they don't light a fire under it's a## and
give it a local, lively identity playing what local Nashvillians want, not some elevator music survey list for Peoria off the internet for
$100. Why so few stations in Nashville deliver a good competitive format is a tragedy that will lead to more layoffs (not Jack) and
fewer listeners. Oh, and yeah, sure Mix plays the same hits for 20 years, but guess what? Local and live surveys, audience sampling of the demo and listening to what Nashville wants has kept it as viable as you get. Havin' some great talent along with it, ain't to sad for the numbers as well. And Delilah doesn't hurt. And by the way, but sort of off subject, "Escape", (the Pina Coloda Song) and "Say You, Say Me" aren't easy to digest for the 1,000,000,000,000 time, but listeners deal with it. You explain that one. Well, someone explain that one, I sure can't and no one I know has been able to...
WRQQ needs a lot of help musically, a little work with talent, but overall they're good on the talent side. Greatest
talent on Earth can't make them #1 if people are not inspired by 48 minutes of average music. And three good songs. That's a joke
- sort of. Cue the Kool & the Gang. Okay, I can't explain a damn thing, can I??? Oh well, that's radio.
like they are part of the local energy or team. Radio's fate, the die-hard listeners are getting older every day and radio is gearing younger everyday and the loyalty factor is all but gone for listeners under (approx.) 25. Saving a few bucks and giving listeners boring radio with
no local feel is taking advantage of them for the short term. In smaller markets than Nashville, exposing them to horrible local talent vs.
syndication/satellite is just as bad. But, in a market like Nashville, a sense of being part of the local life seems to make much more sense
in terms of better sound and revenue.
That being said, paying attention to doing things right seems to payoff better than throwing some show from someone's basement onto the air from 500 miles away that doesn't even know what cities they are broadcasting to. Try listening to 102.5 after Lulu and Trish or on weekends. It's lonely and that's why the station, while better, isn't any real competition. Some shows, like Delilah, surprise me in ratings, although Delilah got Arbed recently. I have questioned her popularity for some time, and I guess I've fianlly gotten old and sentimental enough to actually be able to listen myself (a little, but I'm not her demo.) Could Mix be a share higher with live at night? I dunno, really. Possibly, but she's possibly an exception. Bob & Tom, John Boy & Billy, Bob and Sheri, Tom Joyner and all of Talks Talkers have various merits. Most of them are talkers not music-based. Delilah is music based. Go figure.
I have no malice toward Tom Kent, other than he doesn't fit WRQQ. Delilah, at night, doesn't fit WRQQ. WRQQ can ONLY succeed if Dickert
is allowed to use his own instincts and not the pencil pushers at Cumulus. He's seasoned and one of the best, he knows Nashville's legendary love of Rock like NO ONE and I don't believe for a second that Three Dog Night is HIS idea of Classic Hits. Tom Kent is merely
playing it wrong for WRQQ -- not the nation. WRQQ will fade away faster than Oldies 97 did if they don't light a fire under it's a## and
give it a local, lively identity playing what local Nashvillians want, not some elevator music survey list for Peoria off the internet for
$100. Why so few stations in Nashville deliver a good competitive format is a tragedy that will lead to more layoffs (not Jack) and
fewer listeners. Oh, and yeah, sure Mix plays the same hits for 20 years, but guess what? Local and live surveys, audience sampling of the demo and listening to what Nashville wants has kept it as viable as you get. Havin' some great talent along with it, ain't to sad for the numbers as well. And Delilah doesn't hurt. And by the way, but sort of off subject, "Escape", (the Pina Coloda Song) and "Say You, Say Me" aren't easy to digest for the 1,000,000,000,000 time, but listeners deal with it. You explain that one. Well, someone explain that one, I sure can't and no one I know has been able to...
WRQQ needs a lot of help musically, a little work with talent, but overall they're good on the talent side. Greatest
talent on Earth can't make them #1 if people are not inspired by 48 minutes of average music. And three good songs. That's a joke
- sort of. Cue the Kool & the Gang. Okay, I can't explain a damn thing, can I??? Oh well, that's radio.
Tibbs, my only explanation for the repetitive playlist is people are comfortable with familiarity. That is why McDonald's, Holiday Inn, Burger King seem to do well across the country--brand homogenization. The McDonald's in Nashville is the same as the one on the west coast. Holiday Inn: what you see is what you get (with the occasional Crowne Plaza or Express subtle differences). Add nostalgia into the mix (collecting gaseball cards, music, style, whatever was popular from a person's youth or early adulthood) and I can see why classic rock or easy adult contemporary do so well. My dad loves the old WSM classic country because it was back in his day. People don't like change. Remember the 96.3 flip to Jack on May 13, 2005? The recorded complaint calls the next two weeks were astounding. People did not want to dial down the FM band one station. Instead they got on the soapbox and dialed the station. Change is strange.
Agreed, I see your point of a limited menu, but shouldn't radio not be so predictable. It can stay in parameters, and doesn't
even have to really break from a specific format, but within reason, why can't WRQQ (or any others) stretch the limits once or
twice an hour? Doesn't mean a non-hit, just means more variety. BTW, back on the Mix soapbox, U-2's "With or Without You"
is a song that tested well, and it was added. Yeah, it's now an Oldie (I guess) but it's a little peppier than a lot of stuff played
around it. I think that sort of slightly off center swing, ever so often, allows more scanners to listen in. We all have to hit the
scan button on EVERY station ever so often, right? Why it's better to "play it safe" and try not to run listeners off (when it
always happens when people have a scan button) vs. getting the scanners to stop and go "wow, I didn't expect that on
there, they stick for a second and maybe they like the next song." Do I see protective programming as a negative? Not always.
A consistent sound doesn't mean a minimal playlist, it means being a fairly constant, dependable station that people want to
listen to. Even Jack and WRLT are "consistent" for what they do...but the music is not always predicatable and a certain
population likes that. Same for the Wolf. An example of a screwy playlist is 102.5 all day is Hot AC (I guess) and then 80's
and all at night. Not a good version of variety. Same was true for TK on RQQ. I guess the credit is due to RQQ for mixing
it up and throwing in an 80's hit, right? Just wish it wasn't Huey Lewis.
even have to really break from a specific format, but within reason, why can't WRQQ (or any others) stretch the limits once or
twice an hour? Doesn't mean a non-hit, just means more variety. BTW, back on the Mix soapbox, U-2's "With or Without You"
is a song that tested well, and it was added. Yeah, it's now an Oldie (I guess) but it's a little peppier than a lot of stuff played
around it. I think that sort of slightly off center swing, ever so often, allows more scanners to listen in. We all have to hit the
scan button on EVERY station ever so often, right? Why it's better to "play it safe" and try not to run listeners off (when it
always happens when people have a scan button) vs. getting the scanners to stop and go "wow, I didn't expect that on
there, they stick for a second and maybe they like the next song." Do I see protective programming as a negative? Not always.
A consistent sound doesn't mean a minimal playlist, it means being a fairly constant, dependable station that people want to
listen to. Even Jack and WRLT are "consistent" for what they do...but the music is not always predicatable and a certain
population likes that. Same for the Wolf. An example of a screwy playlist is 102.5 all day is Hot AC (I guess) and then 80's
and all at night. Not a good version of variety. Same was true for TK on RQQ. I guess the credit is due to RQQ for mixing
it up and throwing in an 80's hit, right? Just wish it wasn't Huey Lewis.
Tibbs2 said:Agreed, I see your point of a limited menu, but shouldn't radio not be so predictable. It can stay in parameters, and doesn't even have to really break from a specific format, but within reason, why can't WRQQ (or any others) stretch the limits once or twice an hour?
Because many radio employees today suffer under corporate and management types who will rain down on an them for playing something not on the playlist. In times past, the PD would have come in and jumped on your case for not sticking to the playlist. Today, it's a serious performance issue. In some circles, it even comes down to the psychology of playing or not playing a certain song, and the effect it has on the buying audience. MDs and PDs often have to justify their playlists to management, and the safest route to go is to stick to the charts and/or the regional/corporate format guru's direction. Once upon a time we could talk about "parameters", but the term for today is "directed control." And, make no doubt about it, where you still hear "unpredictability" on a music-formatted station today, it's usually scripted and intentional.
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