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WYLL AM 1160 Heard In The Night From Walls Of Lockport, IL Family

Schroedingers Cat said:
My guess is that newfangled house wrap and or insulation are causing it. Its probably acting like a pie tin and wax paper detector. They only come out at Night, because in the Daytime, they broadcast from Des Plaines.


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How do you have this problem and wait 6 years to do something about it? And how did no one know to tell him when he built or bought/moved into that house?
 
Judging by the FCC numbers, I think the station was built in 2014, six years ago.
I suspect that there's something loose in the metal conduits, responding to the magnetic field of the towers.
 
On further research, it appears that this house receives at least several volts per meter field strength. It is probably close to the same FI as resulted in the legendary stories about 500 kW WLW. I’m surprised that there are not more reports. I don’t blame the people for being reluctant to report that they were hearing voices talking about Jesus. Can you imagine the Psychiatrists, who are mostly ignorant of Physics, getting a hold of this story and what they might say? Medical schools have traditionally only required two introductory undergraduate Physics courses in order to be admitted. It looks like the house was built before the facility was was built.
 
Schroedingers Cat said:
On further research, it appears that this house receives at least several volts per meter field strength. It is probably close to the same FI as resulted in the legendary stories about 500 kW WLW. I’m surprised that there are not more reports. I don’t blame the people for being reluctant to report that they were hearing voices talking about Jesus. Can you imagine the Psychiatrists ignorant of Physics getting a hold of this story and what they might say?
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Or some endtime obsesed preachers would make it out to be a sign that the rapture is near. :rolleyes:

PS I'm a Christian but I don't buy into those kinds of preachers.
 
This was the old WJJD-1160. It was about the only other station on 1160 besides KSL. They both wound up on the same channel after NARBA. KSL was the dominant station, so WJJD had to protect KSL. Years ago (just a bit before I got here), KSL used to sign off at midnight, and WJJD could come back on until KSL's morning sign-on.
I'd have to look back in their history cards for the dates...I think they had a pip-squeak of a night-time signal once. KSL then went 24 hours with Herb Jepco's "Night Cap".
I think WJJD had a couple of different owners before Salem bought them. So, that's likely when they added the night time transmitter. At 50 KW, they needed a tight pattern and new site to protect KSL.
I'm going by 40+ years of memory on this ..details should be on the FCC History Cards under WYLL.
 
It was 5 kW Night from 4 towers in a parallelogram, actually a rhombus, at the Des Plaines site. It was maximum over Chicago, and had a better Night signal than many other AMs in the Northern parts of the area.
 
In the late 50s and 60s, when WJJD was a daytime only station, they were allowed to sign on at 4AM. In winter they'd have to signoff for 15 minutes at 7AM. I assume this is when KSL signed on, probably 6AM MST.
 
MarioMania said:


Nope, 1924
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WJJD (now WYLL) moved their daytime transmitter to Des Plaines in 1936. Before that, they transmitted from Mooseheart IL, which is just north of Aurora. They were on 1130 at the time. Both WJJD and KSL moved to 1160 with the NARBA shift in 1941.
 
Drilling Down

Probably this house was not located near the city center of Lockport, IL, which would put it ~3.5 miles from the WYLL nighttime array on its bearing of about 285°. WYLL radiates less than 100 watts toward that sector.

WYLL has a nighttime field intensity of about 16 mV/m in the Lockport ZIP, where WLS has the greatest day/night field there: 123 mV/m.

The graphic below shows a more likely situation for this "phenomenon" by comparing the fields in housing subdivisions less than 2 miles from WYLL along their bearing toward Lockport (in a null of their DA pattern) vs. toward the North, in their major lobe.

The subdivision indicated by the yellow line from WYLL in the graphic receives a nighttime field of about 2 V/m from WYLL, which is >16X greater than the field there of WLS, and rather likely to produce blanketing interference.

WYLL's field at a distance of 1.12 miles on a bearing toward Lockport city center is shown by the orange line from WYLL and orange text on the graphic. At that location, the field from WYLL is only about 1.2X greater than from WLS.

The difference between those two close-in fields from WYLL is about 22.5 dB.


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I think I found the house, but I don't want to reveal too much private information. It's much closer than the end of your major lobe radial plot. I'm just surprised that there aren't more complaints. The people in the area must not listen to much AM. I would think based on personal experience in my car that it would overload and blanket the whole dial.
 
As I recall from the History Card, it was 20000 watts nondirectional, and then went 50000 watts directional, at Dempster St. and Greenwood Ave. Don't know what the second radiator was like. My relatives reported seeing one tower that was there for a while after they moved to Ballard Rd.
 
That's pretty much the way I remember it. They had moved their studios out to Des Plaines from downtown Chicago. By then I had switched over to WLS most of the time.
 
I briefly worked with a guy who was in sales at WJJD in the mid-70s. He told me once that just about everything they did....including sales.....was out of Des Plaines.
 
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