WZJZ Z100 Ft Myers Stunting; Major Announcement Mon 6a

[badjef]

With the switch from one letter of the alphabet to the other, I guess the next logical step is getting a new set of call letters! No sense having one Z in your calls (let alone two) when you're now going by the "Y-100" identity... I bet the new call letters will probably be somewhat identical to Miami's WHYI, too...

Generally, when a station simulcasts an out of market sister signals, such as this, it doesn't last very long.

Welcome to the curious in New York and Ft. Myers to the "stunting" game.

"Interim Radio" rolls on.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[billalm]

I've just been informed by brilliant and original minds at Clear Channel SW Florida on the future plans for 100.1 through 2015. Stay tuned!

Z-100 (AC) becomes Y-100 (CHR); becomes X-100 (Rock); becomes W-100 (Oldies); becomes V-100 (Urban AC); becomes U-100 (Playing Whatever! We give up!).

 

[HadYourPhil]

Another consequence of WZJZ switching to "Y-100" is cannibalization of The Beat's audience...
Unfortunately for Clear Channel, they are really good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in the Ft. Myers market.

 

[jmtillery]

I've just been informed by brilliant and original minds at Clear Channel SW Florida on the future plans for 100.1 through 2015. Stay tuned!

Z-100 (AC) becomes Y-100 (CHR); becomes X-100 (Rock); becomes W-100 (Oldies); becomes V-100 (Urban AC); becomes U-100 (Playing Whatever! We give up!).

You may also want to add K 100 (Country), B 100 (adult contemporary) J 100 (Religious / CCM), and 3W 100 (Whatever We Want)

 

[gamefreak]

http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WZJZ&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Seems to cover Naples with a solid 60DBu Rim-shot. While not quite a city-grade a signal like that can be heard fine even in the house. Not as good as the other SW Fl stations but what the heck. However I do agree the station should be marketed more or less as a Ft Myers, Port Charlotte and Southern Sarasota Station. The signals from FLZ and POI are OK in Venice but not as good as a local station that City-Grades those areas.

Then again living in an area a good 70-100 Miles from the more urban parts of the state teaches you to be appreciative of those weaker signals that you can still pick up with a little work. I can pick up a 60DBu signal just fine in the house and even a 50DBu signal with the station just sounding a little scratchy. (I prefer stereo over Monaural. I actually don't mind the Hiss in the background as much as I do by listening to a weaker station in Mono.)

 

[badjef]

http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WZJZ&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Seems to cover Naples with a solid 60DBu Rim-shot. While not quite a city-grade a signal like that can be heard fine even in the house. Not as good as the other SW Fl stations but what the heck. However I do agree the station should be marketed more or less as a Ft Myers, Port Charlotte and Southern Sarasota Station...

They tried that 20 years ago. In fact, the ID at that time was "WEEJ, Port Charlotte", a "new" PD decided to add "Sarasota, Fort Myers".

You need to decide who your target market is.

That has always been the problem with that station.

It is probably the most flexible station I know of. Nobody can make it work.

Quite curious.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[swfl]

http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WZJZ&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Seems to cover Naples with a solid 60DBu Rim-shot. While not quite a city-grade a signal like that can be heard fine even in the house. Not as good as the other SW Fl stations but what the heck. However I do agree the station should be marketed more or less as a Ft Myers, Port Charlotte and Southern Sarasota Station. The signals from FLZ and POI are OK in Venice but not as good as a local station that City-Grades those areas.

Then again living in an area a good 70-100 Miles from the more urban parts of the state teaches you to be appreciative of those weaker signals that you can still pick up with a little work. I can pick up a 60DBu signal just fine in the house and even a 50DBu signal with the station just sounding a little scratchy. (I prefer stereo over Monaural. I actually don't mind the Hiss in the background as much as I do by listening to a weaker station in Mono.)

Trust me..I live in Naples...it doe NOT reach here well. In the car yea, inside a house or office..forget about it.

 

[gamefreak]

I don't know. Were I live the signal strength of WDUV is only 60dBu but I can pick it up just fine in the house. I'm just using that as an example though. However interference from other stations down towards Naples can have a lot to do with it too.

The closest co-channel with 105.5 is in St Augustine Beach. Even then I believe the signal is no more than a C3 or Class A. Oh and the closest co-channel is a 105.3 Class A in Gainesville. Plus there is either a 105.3 or 105.7 out in the Heartland. (Hardee, Desoto, Highlands Counties.)

 

[jmtillery]

I don't know. Were I live the signal strength of WDUV is only 60dBu but I can pick it up just fine in the house. I'm just using that as an example though. However interference from other stations down towards Naples can have a lot to do with it too.

The closest co-channel with 105.5 is in St Augustine Beach. Even then I believe the signal is no more than a C3 or Class A. Oh and the closest co-channel is a 105.3 Class A in Gainesville. Plus there is either a 105.3 or 105.7 out in the Heartland. (Hardee, Desoto, Highlands Counties.)

WYKS 105.3 Gainesville is a first adjacent class “A” channel to WDUV’s 105.5 C1 and is not a co-channel although WYRE-FM Saint Augustine Beach is a co-channel class C3. In the heartland area there are two first adjacent channels with one on each side of WDUV. In Sebring there is WWLL 105.7 C3 while in Nocatee [Arcadia] there is WZSP 105.3 A.

 

[johnnyames]

I can guarentee that Z100 will have to vercome it's poor signal in Collier County to gain any ratings. They are not receivable indoors in Naples and not very well in a car here either.

 

[jmtillery]

About the only way WZJZ 100.1 can improve its signal in Naples and Collier County is to move its tower further South and at the full C1 tower height which is 981 feet; However, I'm not convinced that is possible under current FM short-spacing rules since there may be a conflict between WZJZ and first adjacent WKIS 99.9 Boca Raton - Miami. Right now WZJZ is operating at 1,060 feet with 84kw near Cape Coral which gives it the required 70dBu signal over Port Charlotte. It's 60dBu ends at East Naples.

 

[gamefreak]

I don't know. Were I live the signal strength of WDUV is only 60dBu but I can pick it up just fine in the house. I'm just using that as an example though. However interference from other stations down towards Naples can have a lot to do with it too.

The closest co-channel with 105.5 is in St Augustine Beach. Even then I believe the signal is no more than a C3 or Class A. Oh and the closest co-channel is a 105.3 Class A in Gainesville. Plus there is either a 105.3 or 105.7 out in the Heartland. (Hardee, Desoto, Highlands Counties.)

WYKS 105.3 Gainesville is a first adjacent class “A” channel to WDUV’s 105.5 C1 and is not a co-channel although WYRE-FM Saint Augustine Beach is a co-channel class C3. In the heartland area there are two first adjacent channels with one on each side of WDUV. In Sebring there is WWLL 105.7 C3 while in Nocatee [Arcadia] there is WZSP 105.3 A.

On WYKS I meant adjacent, not co-channel. My bad.

 

[badjef]

About the only way WZJZ 100.1 can improve its signal in Naples and Collier County is to move its tower further South and at the full C1 tower height which is 981 feet; However, I'm not convinced that is possible under current FM short-spacing rules since there may be a conflict between WZJZ and first adjacent WKIS 99.9 Boca Raton - Miami. Right now WZJZ is operating at 1,060 feet with 84kw near Cape Coral which gives it the required 70dBu signal over Port Charlotte. It's 60dBu ends at East Naples.

So, move it back to East Gulf Cove and target Sa-ra-so-ta!, again.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[jmtillery]

About the only way WZJZ 100.1 can improve its signal in Naples and Collier County is to move its tower further South and at the full C1 tower height which is 981 feet; However, I'm not convinced that is possible under current FM short-spacing rules since there may be a conflict between WZJZ and first adjacent WKIS 99.9 Boca Raton - Miami. Right now WZJZ is operating at 1,060 feet with 84kw near Cape Coral which gives it the required 70dBu signal over Port Charlotte. It's 60dBu ends at East Naples.

So, move it back to East Gulf Cove and target Sa-ra-so-ta!, again.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

That's fine provided another co-channel or first adjacent has not moved in somewhere on the map preventing WZJZ from relocating back to the Sarasota market.

 

[badjef]

About the only way WZJZ 100.1 can improve its signal in Naples and Collier County is to move its tower further South and at the full C1 tower height which is 981 feet; However, I'm not convinced that is possible under current FM short-spacing rules since there may be a conflict between WZJZ and first adjacent WKIS 99.9 Boca Raton - Miami. Right now WZJZ is operating at 1,060 feet with 84kw near Cape Coral which gives it the required 70dBu signal over Port Charlotte. It's 60dBu ends at East Naples.

So, move it back to East Gulf Cove and target Sa-ra-so-ta!, again.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

That's fine provided another co-channel or first adjacent has not moved in somewhere on the map preventing WZJZ from relocating back to the Sarasota market.

What's to prevent it?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[jmtillery]

About the only way WZJZ 100.1 can improve its signal in Naples and Collier County is to move its tower further South and at the full C1 tower height which is 981 feet; However, I'm not convinced that is possible under current FM short-spacing rules since there may be a conflict between WZJZ and first adjacent WKIS 99.9 Boca Raton - Miami. Right now WZJZ is operating at 1,060 feet with 84kw near Cape Coral which gives it the required 70dBu signal over Port Charlotte. It's 60dBu ends at East Naples.

So, move it back to East Gulf Cove and target Sa-ra-so-ta!, again.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

That's fine provided another co-channel or first adjacent has not moved in somewhere on the map preventing WZJZ from relocating back to the Sarasota market.

What's to prevent it?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

From a technical perspective, I don’t know what station(s) may prevent any such move since I am not a broadcast engineer. It may very well be a clear and straightforward move; However, if any other stations have either moved or applied to move that may cause a conflict, WZJZ will be locked in at its present tower location. Most likely it would be a co-channel or first adjacent that will cause any problems if any exist. The first station that comes to mind is the new first adjacent WXJB 99.9 A licensed to Homosassa and serving Brooksville / Spring Hill. First adjacent class A and C1 are required to clear by 80-miles. I’m sure WZJZ will clear WXJB with a move back towards Sarasota; however, there may be other applications I’m not aware that may cause a technical conflict.

Aside from any technical concerns, any such move is very costly and lies solely at the discretion of Clear Channel Communications, so there is another reason that may be preventing the move. The cost associated with a move will have to be recovered and the potential gain realized within a reasonable time or the move, from a financial standpoint, is not economically feasible.

The bottom line is if Clear Channel doesn’t want to move it, the move will not take place even if the move clears all technical concerns.