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WZLX, when are they going to stop running the sophmoric HD ads for no one?
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Don Juan said:
Yes, we are smarter, because:
1) "Chief engineers at all the major groups" don't make such decisions. Executives (to whom HD radio was marketed in the first place, right over the heads of engineers) make those decisions, especially given the amount of money involved for a typical installation. Engineers do what they're told.
2) "Mark Manuelian at WBZ"...see above.
3) "Radio executives" in the major groups are, without exception, not engineers and don't know anything beyond "there is a studio and a transmitter and the sound comes out of my radio." They're sales people. They sell what engineers and programmers create, without knowing any of the how's and why's...or caring about them. Someday try asking your GM how it all works. Tourette's syndrome comes to mind as a typical reply, unless he/she is an old-school hands-on GM who has probably wired a studio or changed a transmitter tube...exactly the kind of people who see through the HD lies and evasions and won't have anything to do with it.
And anyone who still believes what you've posted is laughably mired in the past.
Whats even funnier is HD opponents who are smarter than everyone at the FCC....smarter than the chief engineers at all the major groups....smarter than Mark Manuellian at WBZ.....smarter than radio executives.
Yes, we are smarter, because:
1) "Chief engineers at all the major groups" don't make such decisions. Executives (to whom HD radio was marketed in the first place,
No you're not...
The Chief of Engineering or the VP/Engineering at the major groups is an executive.
2) "Mark Manuelian at WBZ"...see above.
Again, you know more than Mark Manuelian? Please go ask him his opinion.
3) "Radio executives" in the major groups are, without exception, not engineers and don't know anything beyond "there is a studio and a transmitter
Not the executives I have dealt with.
It's very easy to discount other opinions as people who simply don't understand. Of course, no one understands anything unless they come to the same conclusion as you?
And anyone who still believes what you've posted is laughably mired in the past.
I'm not the one who wants to go backwards...and is hanging on to analog.
There's nothing to believe/disbelieve...I have simply posted facts to bring HD haters back to reality from la-la land.
Yes, we are smarter, because:
1) "Chief engineers at all the major groups" don't make such decisions. Executives (to whom HD radio was marketed in the first place,
No you're not...
The Chief of Engineering or the VP/Engineering at the major groups is an executive.
2) "Mark Manuelian at WBZ"...see above.
Again, you know more than Mark Manuelian? Please go ask him his opinion.
3) "Radio executives" in the major groups are, without exception, not engineers and don't know anything beyond "there is a studio and a transmitter
Not the executives I have dealt with.
It's very easy to discount other opinions as people who simply don't understand. Of course, no one understands anything unless they come to the same conclusion as you?
And anyone who still believes what you've posted is laughably mired in the past.
I'm not the one who wants to go backwards...and is hanging on to analog.
There's nothing to believe/disbelieve...I have simply posted facts to bring HD haters back to reality from la-la land.
Cox Radio pulled the plug on HD Radio for all their AM station... including the massive blowtorch WSB/750 in Atlanta. Nearly bankrupt Citadel pulled the plug on HD on many of their AM stations. WJR for one. I believe WABC as well. Their rollouts of 24-hour HD broadcasting was so disastrous that they immediately scrapped it.
Salem doesn't do it, Radio One doesn't do it. Neither do any of the other smaller AM stations in my home base. One such station tried it, then scrapped it after a few days. It's only the CBS and Clear Channel stations, plus our heritage classical music outlet and a locally owned FM smooth jazz station. And the classical music station has no other programming offered on their additional channels.
Plus those ads (featuring an obvious stoner going "This is an HD emergency... dude...") are ONLY airing on CC and CBS stations. It is only their involvement in this that is keeping this standard alive. Admit it.
If that's called a success... then you have to be that stoner spokesperson.
Salem doesn't do it, Radio One doesn't do it. Neither do any of the other smaller AM stations in my home base. One such station tried it, then scrapped it after a few days. It's only the CBS and Clear Channel stations, plus our heritage classical music outlet and a locally owned FM smooth jazz station. And the classical music station has no other programming offered on their additional channels.
Plus those ads (featuring an obvious stoner going "This is an HD emergency... dude...") are ONLY airing on CC and CBS stations. It is only their involvement in this that is keeping this standard alive. Admit it.
If that's called a success... then you have to be that stoner spokesperson.
Nathan Obral said:
Who is claiming it a "success"?
You keep creating an imaginary finish line. There is no finish line.
BTW...Salem and Radio One are virtually in bankruptcy....and are just trying to hang onto their stations.
(It was very nice of "Dumber" to re-post this thread on another message board inviting HD haters to come and join in.)
J
JohnW
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WBZ AM sideband hash
A fact of life for me is that the sideband hash from WBZ interferes with my listening to LOCAL WYSL in the evening and at night.
Since I find the unwanted noise offensive, does that make me a DXer living in my mother's basement? I don't think so...
A fact of life for me is that the sideband hash from WBZ interferes with my listening to LOCAL WYSL in the evening and at night.
Since I find the unwanted noise offensive, does that make me a DXer living in my mother's basement? I don't think so...
Re: WBZ AM sideband hash
WYSL is a 500 watt station trying to be a local to Rochester from what? 20 miles out of town? Even in the best conditions, this is a flawed facility.
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WYSL&service=AM&status=L&hours=N
Maybe not in mom's basement. ;-) But definitely another obsessed IBOC hater seeing that the majority of your posts have to do with IBOC & AM. And the WYSL DX issue. How many will show up in this thread since "Dumber" crossposted it to another board, we'll see!
JohnW said:
WYSL is a 500 watt station trying to be a local to Rochester from what? 20 miles out of town? Even in the best conditions, this is a flawed facility.
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WYSL&service=AM&status=L&hours=N
Maybe not in mom's basement. ;-) But definitely another obsessed IBOC hater seeing that the majority of your posts have to do with IBOC & AM. And the WYSL DX issue. How many will show up in this thread since "Dumber" crossposted it to another board, we'll see!
J
JohnW
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I'm 10 miles away. I like the station.
Get a life.
JohnW said:
10 miles in the wrong direction for this crazy directional pattern just might be enough.
Again, look at the pattern:
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WYSL&service=AM&status=L&hours=N
This 500 watt station station has an unrealistic expectation of coverage.
Re: WBZ AM sideband hash
Get this through your head: Signal measurements made under nighttime conditions INSIDE WYSL's NIF contour show about a 30% reduction since WBZ turned on their HD crap. When WBZ's HD is off, WYSL's NIF contour is as licensed.
And I'm sure WYSL's owner really appreciates you calling his bread-and-butter a "flawed facility."
Don Juan said:
Get this through your head: Signal measurements made under nighttime conditions INSIDE WYSL's NIF contour show about a 30% reduction since WBZ turned on their HD crap. When WBZ's HD is off, WYSL's NIF contour is as licensed.
And I'm sure WYSL's owner really appreciates you calling his bread-and-butter a "flawed facility."
Re: WBZ AM sideband hash
Obviously the FCC sees no merit in his complaints. But you are smarter than all the engineers at the FCC, right?
WYSL is trying to be something they are not with 500 watts. They are lucky the even got nighttime authorization at all. Trying to service a city from 25 miles away with 500 watts is always a gamble.
This station was originally a daytimer, but was later given nighttime authority (with a "critical hours" pattern to boot) with the understanding that there were stations that were grandfathered in....and would have to deal with it. Night service for them is not a guarantee.
It doesn't matter if it's a bread-and-butter facility....that's irrelevant.
Again, we're back to nighttime AM DX issues.
dumber than a box of hair said:
Obviously the FCC sees no merit in his complaints. But you are smarter than all the engineers at the FCC, right?
WYSL is trying to be something they are not with 500 watts. They are lucky the even got nighttime authorization at all. Trying to service a city from 25 miles away with 500 watts is always a gamble.
This station was originally a daytimer, but was later given nighttime authority (with a "critical hours" pattern to boot) with the understanding that there were stations that were grandfathered in....and would have to deal with it. Night service for them is not a guarantee.
It doesn't matter if it's a bread-and-butter facility....that's irrelevant.
Again, we're back to nighttime AM DX issues.
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