XM Replaces KZLA as Sponsor of "Country Bash '06'

[SuperRadioFan]

So now the word "bigot" USED IN JEST is "name-calling"?? LOL!!
Doctah, you should know (I think you've been around a while) that Hans and David have gotten into it for many years... If you review David's comments on the thread "News and Sports formats..." early in that thread then you'd understand Hans' comments.
Here's a sample of what David said:

"KFI has made its programming reflect "white fear" for the last 6 to 8 months. The call the mayor "Villalarza" and all the callers are pretty polarized (if not bigoted) whites. They are grabbing the 30% of the market that is non-Hispanic white and fanning the fire of their fears. To me, it is sick (although very well done and produced)."
and
"LA, for the same ethnic reasons, is not a good sports town. Spanish dominant Hispanics do not care about gringo sports."

DAVID introduced bigotry and race into that thread (to make his biased point he did make a statement about "all" the KFI callers, though I guess what point isn't biased?)

For me, I find their te ta te funny and entertaining, especially since KM Richard is no longer around to tone it down

I don't think that "zuma guy" visits the other board (yet) but he's not here to sabotage anything IMO.

 

[zumahans]

It was an obvious jest, but the truth was, those were rather bigoted comments I had made. As i explained in the next post, it grieves me to say something like that.

If the editor saw the need to tone it down, that is understood as well.

As for the other board, anything programmed, written or moderated by KM Richards sends me in the other direction, holding my nose and suppressing the gag reflex. I don't even like driving thru the 818 area code.

It was good to see him get the boot.

 

[davideduardo]

Here's a sample of what David said:

"KFI has made its programming reflect "white fear" for the last 6 to 8 months. The call the mayor "Villalarza" and all the callers are pretty polarized (if not bigoted) whites. They are grabbing the 30% of the market that is non-Hispanic white and fanning the fire of their fears. To me, it is sick (although very well done and produced)."

---->> "polarized" is not a racist or inflamatory term. It just means "parcialized." I carfully stated that some, not all, were bigots ("if not" is the give-away). And the fact is, calling the Mayor by inflamatory names _is_ incendiary and racist, so we are commenting on something a station did and continues to do. OK?

and
"LA, for the same ethnic reasons, is not a good sports town. Spanish dominant Hispanics do not care about gringo sports."

---->>>> Yes, Football, basketball and baseball are predominantly gringo sports. If you think "gringo" is racist or negative, get over it. It is just a descriptor.

DAVID introduced bigotry and race into that thread (to make his biased point he did make a statement about "all" the KFI callers, though I guess what point isn't biased?)

------->>>> Again: what part of saying all KFI callers are polarized is bigoted?

For me, I find their te ta te funny and entertaining, especially since KM Richard is no longer around to tone it down

----->>>> I suppose you mean a "tête - à - tête" although it could be anything.

I don't think that "zuma guy" visits the other board (yet) but he's not here to sabotage anything IMO.

----- No, Hans would not be allowed there.

 

[leonardo10]

Some people have mentioned country listeners would not fork over money for XM. Reality is, that is one of the reasons why KZLA flipped formats. Because the average KZLA listener was switching to satellite radio because they could afford it and it in turn shrunk the listening audience for KZLA causing the ratings slide.

 

[davideduardo]

Some people have mentioned country listeners would not fork over money for XM. Reality is, that is one of the reasons why KZLA flipped formats. Because the average KZLA listener was switching to satellite radio because they could afford it and it in turn shrunk the listening audience for KZLA causing the ratings slide.

While this may be true int he future, at present satellite in LA is less than a half-share of listening for 150 channels. I doubt that XM and Sirius satelliete country channels accounted for even 0.05 share points, certainly not enough to impact the KZLA listening.

 

[mostb1]

Some people have mentioned country listeners would not fork over money for XM. Reality is, that is one of the reasons why KZLA flipped formats. Because the average KZLA listener was switching to satellite radio because they could afford it and it in turn shrunk the listening audience for KZLA causing the ratings slide.

While this may be true int he future, at present satellite in LA is less than a half-share of listening for 150 channels. I doubt that XM and Sirius satelliete country channels accounted for even 0.05 share points, certainly not enough to impact the KZLA listening.

"Terrestrial radio just hands our millions of country listeners in Los Angeles and New York to XM and Sirius" http://www.insideradio.com/topheadline.asp?ID=455059&PT=Today'sTopStories

 

[zumahans]

---->"polarized" is not a racist or inflamatory term. It just means "parcialized."

Sounds perjorative to me.


---->"LA, for the same ethnic reasons, is not a good sports town. Spanish dominant Hispanics do not care about gringo sports."

Sounds racist to me, and many.

-----> what part of saying all KFI callers are polarized is bigoted?

The part where you imply that KFI callers take a polarized position. Polarized, as it is understood to mean one-sided, not taking the other side of the argument into consideration.

----->>>> I suppose you mean a "tête - à - tête" although it could be anything.

Anyone who makes as many stupid spelling errors as you do has absolutely no base to call out errors of others. Once, again, your priggish, morally-superior attitude is on display.

One who attacks NPR for being elistist has no damn business telling someone on an internet forum that they spelled "tête - à - tête" incorrectly.

But the bigger point here is that once again you ignore someone's point and attackl the way they said it.

And finally: if you are going to correct someone's english usage, why don't you have the courtesy to use english? "Tête - à - tête" is not common english.

If nothing else you have said proves what a hypocritical, elitist bunch of pretentious pap you post here, this does.

And finally, I do not even read that other forum. I am not a radio industry apologist, suckup or wannabe like those dear departed moderators in whose rectal hairs your probiscous so prominently resides.

I would like to think that the "Best of KM Richards replies" that I sent to the owners of this forum had something to do with his being shown the door.

 

[zumahans]

While this may be true int he future, at present satellite in LA is less than a half-share of listening for 150 channels. I doubt that XM and Sirius satelliete country channels accounted for even 0.05 share points, certainly not enough to impact the KZLA listening.

AS IF.

As if your precious chicken bones and entrails are accurate.

As if the ratings companies - bought and paid for by corporate radio - care about measuring sat radio accurately.

As if the wealthy and educated early adopters buiying sat radios would consent to the token payments and hassle of diaries, etc.

12 million radios sold and counting, David. Five years ago you called me crazy for predicting that.

College students abandoning radio completely, David.

File sharing, streaming and IPods

You can take your proprietary, dubious ratings and believe them all you want, David. Only those of you in the House of Mirrors, whose paycheck depaends on them, believes in them.

 

[zumahans]

Our society is worth preserving. Our anglo-saxon based civilization is worth preserving. Sure, immigrants of different colors and nationalities and beliefs can come. But they must embrace our culture. Otherwise, we have Baghdad. Or Amsterdam. Or Brixton. Not good.

A common language is the first step. The natural assimilation process that existed for generations has been frozen by profiteers like Univision Radio and TV, where a California industrialist who can't speak spanish and lives just down the beach from here makes hundreds of millions by exploiting their differences.

Ooops, that's where David Edward works, isn't it? He too has made some handsome coin discriminating against spanish speaking people by freezing them in their inability to speak the nation's common language.

When the shoe is on the other foot, the Mexican Republic is far less accepting than we are. Undocumented aliens are dealt with very savagely there. Even US citizens have a hard time emigrating. The gobierno, for some strange reason, absolutely insists that U.S. citizens speak spanish and have money in the bank before being allowed to settle.

When I was a college student in Tucson, I became a great fan of the writer Edward Abbey (Monkeywrench Gang, etc). His views on Mexico then were repugnant to me: he felt a high fence was needed to prevent mexico's overpopulation, social and economic distribution cancers from spreading north. I told him to his face he was a racist. He threw a beer can at me.

Edward Abbey was right.

30 years from now, English will be protected like French in Ontario (not Quebec, Ontario). The republicans will be the Parti Quebecois.

I would say that government would require that radio station groups would require 40 percent English programming, but radio station groups will be obsolete buggy whips in 5 years so who cares?

Isn't it very telling that someone who would take the time and electrons to correct the spelling of tete-a-tete would ignore a substantive point like this?

 

[davideduardo]

Isn't it very telling that someone who would take the time and electrons to correct the spelling of tete-a-tete would ignore a substantive point like this?

I did not correct the spelling. I asked if that was what the poster meant, as the term he used was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay distanced from the phrase I know. The clue should have been when I said, "Do you mean..." with a question mark.

And you posted nothing either true or substantive. To wit:

First generation immigrants, for the most part, have not assimilated in the past, either. Most are poor, less educated and struggle to make a future for the family. Happend with the Germans, the Italians, the Poles, etc. The second generation is assimilated.

Also, this is not a new subject. Per the Census' own web page, the highest percentage of residents who were born abroad was in 1903. Many of those were German and Italian then...

In the meantime, native tongue media fulfils a need to inform and entertain, as neither language nor musical taste will change if a person come to the US after age 18, give or take.