I knew this show was trouble right from the beginning. You can also thank Gloria Steinhem, And KSL for doing the right thing because KSL can now have their Mondays back. The State of Utah can now rejoice themselves as the say Hallelujah and amen, for a huge victory. Playboy is nothing but a money-making company that worships pornography and full frontal nudity.
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You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
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Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
You are obviously too young to remember the "old" Playboy that was full of "gentlemen's" information of all kinds. No, I am not defending this show as personally I always thought the Playboy magazine and image was shallow. I did however enjoy the photography and never saw what I would consider "porn". Naked, yes. Porn, no. There is a huge difference.
I'll not defend the Mormons, KSL or the non-Mormon people of Utah either nor shall I blame them for the cancellation of this show. While I certainly can assume no deeply religious people would approve of a show like this there are obviously a lot of non-religious people who feel likewise. Apparently enough so that the ratings were not sufficient to maintain production. Shows succeed and shows fail and for a variety of reasons. I'm not the least bit religious nor am I a prude but I won't watch trash and that is what this show seemed to suggest. It seemed to be a throwback to the 50's and 60's when the flash of a Playboy key (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) would get the young, single things all worked up. Those days are gone and this show proved it.
You are obviously too young to remember the "old" Playboy that was full of "gentlemen's" information of all kinds. No, I am not defending this show as personally I always thought the Playboy magazine and image was shallow. I did however enjoy the photography and never saw what I would consider "porn". Naked, yes. Porn, no. There is a huge difference.
I'll not defend the Mormons, KSL or the non-Mormon people of Utah either nor shall I blame them for the cancellation of this show. While I certainly can assume no deeply religious people would approve of a show like this there are obviously a lot of non-religious people who feel likewise. Apparently enough so that the ratings were not sufficient to maintain production. Shows succeed and shows fail and for a variety of reasons. I'm not the least bit religious nor am I a prude but I won't watch trash and that is what this show seemed to suggest. It seemed to be a throwback to the 50's and 60's when the flash of a Playboy key (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) would get the young, single things all worked up. Those days are gone and this show proved it.
Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
How about blaming it on poor writing, preposterous plots, and wooden, empty acting? I haven't seen the show but I've read a lot of comments as to why it deserved to be canceled and none of them had anything to do with objections to content because of religious principals. That's not to say that there weren't people objecting to the content but I just haven't heard enough of them making a fuss to put the decision to cancel the show on them. I think like most shows, this one failed on it's own merits...or lack there of.
How about blaming it on poor writing, preposterous plots, and wooden, empty acting? I haven't seen the show but I've read a lot of comments as to why it deserved to be canceled and none of them had anything to do with objections to content because of religious principals. That's not to say that there weren't people objecting to the content but I just haven't heard enough of them making a fuss to put the decision to cancel the show on them. I think like most shows, this one failed on it's own merits...or lack there of.
Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
No, that won't do because Troy is young enough that he's been taught that NOTHING is your fault and EVERYTHING that happens to you is someone else's fault. Furthermore, if it involves a right-of-center person or organization, then sole responsibility for the bad event surely rests with that evil entity.
Am I getting warm here? Because it just HAD TO BE little Bonneville Communications and their NBC affiliate in market number 35 and not the fact that The Playboy Club was a lousy show that too few watched.
Don't mean to come down on you so hard Troy, but your comment does personify the sort of crap that "educators" in high schools and universities are now training you to come up with.
See, now I've gone and done it - it's not your fault either!!!
dmargalotti said:
No, that won't do because Troy is young enough that he's been taught that NOTHING is your fault and EVERYTHING that happens to you is someone else's fault. Furthermore, if it involves a right-of-center person or organization, then sole responsibility for the bad event surely rests with that evil entity.
Am I getting warm here? Because it just HAD TO BE little Bonneville Communications and their NBC affiliate in market number 35 and not the fact that The Playboy Club was a lousy show that too few watched.
Don't mean to come down on you so hard Troy, but your comment does personify the sort of crap that "educators" in high schools and universities are now training you to come up with.
See, now I've gone and done it - it's not your fault either!!!
Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
A show like The Playboy Club should have been on HBO so it could push the envelope and have more creative freedom... which would make it a better show.
A show like The Playboy Club should have been on HBO so it could push the envelope and have more creative freedom... which would make it a better show.
Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
I saw a graph a few minutes ago, which I can't find again, shows 64% of viewers found The Playboy Club 'poor'. The boycott by the national PTO apparently was not important.
The show drew only 4.1M viewers in its third week.
I saw a graph a few minutes ago, which I can't find again, shows 64% of viewers found The Playboy Club 'poor'. The boycott by the national PTO apparently was not important.
The show drew only 4.1M viewers in its third week.
Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
+1. A attempt to cash in on the "feel" of Mad Men. Lame, badly acted, and boring. I thought it was a mess...plain and simple. Perhaps the results could've been better with more creative license on cable, but I kind of doubt it.
dmargalotti said:
+1. A attempt to cash in on the "feel" of Mad Men. Lame, badly acted, and boring. I thought it was a mess...plain and simple. Perhaps the results could've been better with more creative license on cable, but I kind of doubt it.
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Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
No, you obviously don't understand KSL. They are way to classy to do that. Sorry.
And nobody cares about KSL around the country, except those who live on the Wasatch Front. KSL had little to due with the cancellation. Poor ratings and poor writing did.
azumanga said:
No, you obviously don't understand KSL. They are way to classy to do that. Sorry.
And nobody cares about KSL around the country, except those who live on the Wasatch Front. KSL had little to due with the cancellation. Poor ratings and poor writing did.
Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
This is what I said back on the first thread about the KSL situation back in June;
I completely called it (though pleasantly surprised they didn't do more to wring the turnip). People just had so many better things to do at 10pm/9pm Mondays, and Hawaii Five-O and Castle and many other cable shows have much bigger ratings momentum (and established audiences) rather than NBC's patchwork of The Sing-Off leading in. The writing, the acting and the ratings did it in; nobody wants to advertise on a show that reaches less than 3 million viewers except the lower-tiers and the drug ads. NBC could've aired an 'uncensored' version and nobody would've cared in the least because all they see is "Eddie Cibrian killed so many other shows and has that stupid personal tabloid life, I've never heard of Amber Heard, Jenna Dewan should stick to 'Step Up' movies, and this show shouldn't need to license a brand name and concept to stand out".
As for KSL? Great job sticking to their guns. I think they use their position to know when a show is just going to do well at all; they're 2-for-2 in NBC dud refusals.
This is what I said back on the first thread about the KSL situation back in June;
I completely called it (though pleasantly surprised they didn't do more to wring the turnip). People just had so many better things to do at 10pm/9pm Mondays, and Hawaii Five-O and Castle and many other cable shows have much bigger ratings momentum (and established audiences) rather than NBC's patchwork of The Sing-Off leading in. The writing, the acting and the ratings did it in; nobody wants to advertise on a show that reaches less than 3 million viewers except the lower-tiers and the drug ads. NBC could've aired an 'uncensored' version and nobody would've cared in the least because all they see is "Eddie Cibrian killed so many other shows and has that stupid personal tabloid life, I've never heard of Amber Heard, Jenna Dewan should stick to 'Step Up' movies, and this show shouldn't need to license a brand name and concept to stand out".
As for KSL? Great job sticking to their guns. I think they use their position to know when a show is just going to do well at all; they're 2-for-2 in NBC dud refusals.
Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
It was canceled due to anemic low rating - nothing more.
It was canceled due to anemic low rating - nothing more.
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Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
KSL would never "lay it on" to a failed show. KSL will just take the high road, and air the replacement programming with no comment. And that is what makes them great. Bring on Brian, with no comment. KSL knows what works. KSL rocks.
KSL would never "lay it on" to a failed show. KSL will just take the high road, and air the replacement programming with no comment. And that is what makes them great. Bring on Brian, with no comment. KSL knows what works. KSL rocks.
Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
Of course, it was a right-wing organization that canceled The Playboy Club.
Like someone else said, nothing in this world today fails on its own merits. We're ALL the victims of conspiracies.
Of course, it was a right-wing organization that canceled The Playboy Club.
Like someone else said, nothing in this world today fails on its own merits. We're ALL the victims of conspiracies.
Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
Bonneville is pretty principled (hey, they're owned by the Mormon Church!) and they have always felt uncomfortable with certain types of programming (notice they don't do hard rock or hip-hop formats on their radio stations, but they do like AC, classic rock, sports and all-news?). Nonetheless, they have always been a class broadcaster, and have built up one of the best broadcasting companies in the business. They're not a bunch of screaming tighty-righties. They're just mild-mannered Mormons that don't like to stir things up. They've always played it safe and taken the high road. They just don't like controversy.
searadiofreak said:
Bonneville is pretty principled (hey, they're owned by the Mormon Church!) and they have always felt uncomfortable with certain types of programming (notice they don't do hard rock or hip-hop formats on their radio stations, but they do like AC, classic rock, sports and all-news?). Nonetheless, they have always been a class broadcaster, and have built up one of the best broadcasting companies in the business. They're not a bunch of screaming tighty-righties. They're just mild-mannered Mormons that don't like to stir things up. They've always played it safe and taken the high road. They just don't like controversy.
Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
Did anyone see this week's episode? It was supposedly set in 1961, yet they had Colbie Caillat portraying Lesley Gore! Two problems with that. "It's My Party" didn't become a hit until 1963 (and Gore was only 17 even then!), and Caillat is too old to portray a teenager. Shades of American Dreams all over again.
Did anyone see this week's episode? It was supposedly set in 1961, yet they had Colbie Caillat portraying Lesley Gore! Two problems with that. "It's My Party" didn't become a hit until 1963 (and Gore was only 17 even then!), and Caillat is too old to portray a teenager. Shades of American Dreams all over again.
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Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
movies and tv are not too good about correct timelines in music.
an example.both of the last 2 texas chainsaw movies had songs that came out a year after the year the movies take place.
pirate radio had songs that were released after the boat the real station broadcast from sank as another example.
movies and tv are not too good about correct timelines in music.
an example.both of the last 2 texas chainsaw movies had songs that came out a year after the year the movies take place.
pirate radio had songs that were released after the boat the real station broadcast from sank as another example.
Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
Read that the first week the show had 5 million viewers (heck, Ice Road Truckers does that) Second week 3.8 million viewers. Nothing to do with Mormons. Looks like a rating flop.
Read that the first week the show had 5 million viewers (heck, Ice Road Truckers does that) Second week 3.8 million viewers. Nothing to do with Mormons. Looks like a rating flop.
Re: You can thank The Mormons & The PTC for cancelling "The Playboy Club".
Hey, it probably would have flopped even sooner without the PTC getting involved. As bad as the show was (and would have been, thanks to being on broadcast TV) I'm surprised even 5 million people tuned in to check it out, especially considering it's NBC and they don't have much in the way of ratings on ANY night.
Now, had the show been done on HBO or Showtime, with a different writing staff, it could have been a hit.
Hey, it probably would have flopped even sooner without the PTC getting involved. As bad as the show was (and would have been, thanks to being on broadcast TV) I'm surprised even 5 million people tuned in to check it out, especially considering it's NBC and they don't have much in the way of ratings on ANY night.
Now, had the show been done on HBO or Showtime, with a different writing staff, it could have been a hit.
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