Cbs decided to flip the free fm to hip hop station of which phoenix already has two.Cbs really made a huge mistake.Just wanted to vent and tell you how lucky you are cbs brought k rock back to you.is it more of an alt station or active or a mix between the two.Wish they would have brought the alt back to us.
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You new yorkers got lucky with k rock coming back now in phoenix...
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K-Rock is nothing to write home about. It's no KROQ (which, while tightly formatted, is still pretty good), and it's nothing like K-Rock during their few good periods. It hasn't changed at all from the time that it was known as "Great Rock Period", except adding a few new songs and calling itself "The Rock Of New York". It only plays about 250 songs or so and consists of basically 10 Currents and the 240 most played Rock songs of the past 30 years. For a market with a Classic Rock station serving it loud and clear, K-Rock sure plays a whole ton of old time rock acts like Guns N' Roses, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, etc. In addition, aside from O&A, they have no on-air personalities thus far.
Besides, doesn't Phoenix destroy New York in terms of Rock programming. The last time I was in town, they had about 3 or 4 Active or Alternative stations on the air, all with unique formats as well. One had kind of a CHR presentation, one was Adult Alternative, and another played lots of harder rock, and then there was one that was a straight up Alternative like KROQ, only better.
Besides, doesn't Phoenix destroy New York in terms of Rock programming. The last time I was in town, they had about 3 or 4 Active or Alternative stations on the air, all with unique formats as well. One had kind of a CHR presentation, one was Adult Alternative, and another played lots of harder rock, and then there was one that was a straight up Alternative like KROQ, only better.
Phoenix has and still does a alt station called the edge kedj which since it sold 2 years ago to riviera broadcasting it isn't near as good but not a bad alt they just use to play deeper cuts from new cds like jesus of suburbia summer of 04 but not near as good liek they use to have a cool ska punk show every night now it is just once a week.
www.krock2.com is decent, the bitrate sucks, and the consultants are mis-managing its data collection potential because of their correct fear that internet radio data collection will render them obsolete.
SoulCrusher said:
Phoenix did a lousy job at coming up with a station for the post FREE-FM era. They changed 101-5 FREE FM into the new 101-5 JAMZ, "Blazin' the valley's hits and hip-hop". Seeing as we have two urban stations in Phoenix already (this being the third), I found the decision to be incredibly curious to say the least. Then again, CBS is notorious for making poor decisions and then wallowing in them as all of you in New York are witness.
We (in Phoenix) do have 4 rock stations (3 of which are owned by the same company Sandusky and are all VERY SIMILAR). I have a couple colleagues that work in New York, and while I'm not totally envious of the market, at least you're getting a station with A LITTLE personality and something the market could use in KROCK, whereas we get a format that is over-saturated as is and plays the same sweeper ever 4 minutes with different effects in it.
Maybe it's a case of the grass is greener on the other side, but I must say, I am at least a little jealous of New York in this regard
.Phoenix's Power 98.3 signal isn't that powerful and is weak in some parts. 101.5 signal is much more powerful. This is why CBS Radio put hip hop on that signal. They hope listeners will turn to 101.5 instead of 98.3 as that is a weaker signal.
Reguardless of the reason still a bad decision and a disservice to phoenix radio.I would rather have free fm back or listen to kiss then listen to this waste of a frequency 101.5 in phoenix.Good luck new yorkers with your new old station krock!!!
I'd rather have music on a good powerful FM signal then talk. And sure in other ways people will complain about talk going to FM. Such as in RI. 103.7 became WEEI-FM the sports station out of Boston, MA. Getting back to Phoenix. Maybe if Emmis never sold Power 92.3, 101.5 might of went with a different format. People at first were saying it was going to be a Fresh station like Fresh 102.7.
CBS did good in sandiego though with that flip but phoenix poor phoenix cbs should be ashaned of what they did!!!
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SoulCrusher said:
Yes, But A Lot Of People Like To Hear The Classics And The Modern On THE SAME Station. Which Is Why Many Prefer "Rock" Over "Alternative" (Modern Rock) Or "Classic Rock/Hits"
And The 1960-Today Is What Makes WMMR So Great. And I Have My Antenna Set Up So I Can Get K-Rock, And They Seem Pretty Kick Ass. So They Need To Keep It Up.
CBS Radio should of brought Jamz to New York City before Clear Channel changed 105.1 to urban. To bad they never flipped 92.3 before Power came and CBS could of be in the battle with Hot 97. 92.3 Jamz lol. I also say this as CBS Radio has some good urban stations. 95.5 Washington, D.C., Power 98 Charlotte, Hot 93.7 Hartford, CT. But I with CBS Radio having K-Rock back they will do big things. They just got to make the station sound good and get some good DJs to make a winning team.
But if 105.1 never changed CBS Radio could be in the top ten with these stations.
Fresh 102.7 (they are doing well against 106.7)
92.3 Jamz (would of been nice if CBS Radio flipped one of their stations to hip hop before Clear Channel did)
Jack 101.1 (they are doing alright, not much to say here)
But if 105.1 never changed CBS Radio could be in the top ten with these stations.
Fresh 102.7 (they are doing well against 106.7)
92.3 Jamz (would of been nice if CBS Radio flipped one of their stations to hip hop before Clear Channel did)
Jack 101.1 (they are doing alright, not much to say here)
"Jack 101.1 (they are doing alright, not much to say here)" ???
Jack's rateings still stink nd being 10 in the 25-54 demo is you look at all the stations that are ahead of they at 1 through 9 in that demo. The rock listeners which were giving jack ratings groth are now moving back to KROCK.
CBS should swich 101.1 to pop leaning classic hits (1964-1989) uing the CBS FM Brad name and rehire a few of the old CBS FM DJ.
Jack's rateings still stink nd being 10 in the 25-54 demo is you look at all the stations that are ahead of they at 1 through 9 in that demo. The rock listeners which were giving jack ratings groth are now moving back to KROCK.
CBS should swich 101.1 to pop leaning classic hits (1964-1989) uing the CBS FM Brad name and rehire a few of the old CBS FM DJ.
I think CBS will give Jack 101.1 sometime. They haven't flipped any of their Jack's yet. Chicago's Jack isn't doing to hot either. Making 101.1 a Classic Hits station would be a good idea. But I think CBS will soon move some News/Talk stations to FM maybe. Bonneville has done this in Washington and Arizona. So maybe CBS would do this also.
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