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WARM--ANYONE INTERESTED IN BRINGING WARMLAND BACK????
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Well WARM changed. It went off the air!
Maybe we can expect more of this kind of change, eh?
Maybe we can expect more of this kind of change, eh?
WARM--ANYONE INTERESTED IN BRINGING WARMLAND BACK FROM THE DEAD????
It's baaaaack! ;D
Did anyone here get to the WARMLAND Mighty 590 reunion, August 10, 2013, at the Pocono Drag lodge 50th Anniversary ?
Any tales to tell?
I forgot to put it on my calendar, and forgot all about it.
Did anyone here get to the WARMLAND Mighty 590 reunion, August 10, 2013, at the Pocono Drag lodge 50th Anniversary ?
Any tales to tell?
I forgot to put it on my calendar, and forgot all about it.
What should we shout?
Oh! I know: http://sphotos-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s403x403/995781_661623383850203_214526736_n.jpg
Oh! I know: http://sphotos-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s403x403/995781_661623383850203_214526736_n.jpg
I see that Roger has removed some of his posts. Maybe even all of them.
Roger - over and out?
Roger - over and out?
I can barely hear it in Pocono Summit. When are they going to just pull the plug. WARM today is like watching your 22 year old dog wither away. Just put the thing down and out of its misery!!!NigelWick said:
NigelWick said:
Actually...590-WROW Albany is doing very well these days in an FM/Internet world...
FCC files are showing WARM requested an STA to operate with 1000 watts til the problems with the antenna system can be tracked down. It was dated 7/2013
Time Traveler said:
And their signal shows what 5,000 watts can do on the low end of the dial. WROW has three towers just south of Albany near the NYS Thruway. If I drive south to I-84 (about 90 miles), WROW is still with me. If I go west on I-84 toward Port Jervis, the signal dies out because of the null that protects WARM. If I take the Thruway south to the Bronx, I can still hear WROW.
If Cumulus does pull the plug on WARM, WROW would probably file for a license modification to open up the pattern toward the southwest.
WARM is dying of neglect. A poor antenna system and rotted out ground radials are killing the signal, while Cumulus, like most of the big group owners, has the "AM is dead" mentality. Current programming on most of their AM stations reflects that. I'm glad the WROW people don't think that way...I love that station and listen to it whenever I am sent into upstate New York.
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Bring WARM back is a great idea that will never happen.
That said, I'm just generically posting this to knock that sad, unnoticed 'changes to the morning show' 107 post out of the top spot.
That said, I'm just generically posting this to knock that sad, unnoticed 'changes to the morning show' 107 post out of the top spot.
I have to say Aramondo is right!! I think someone should start a web site for the old WARM 590 and also have a discussion board too or a facebook page.
The engineers here will know if WROW loosening their pattern southwest would need another stick.
It doesn't look like they can send any more power east at Boston, and I believe a fourth stick is
the only way to push more watts out of a pattern that's symmetric -- the way a lot of three-tower
directionals are. I think it's called the axis of symmetry, where ideally an actual line can be drawn
down the middle of the pattern, leaving the same inkblot/information/directional characteristics on both
sides of the line.
Besides, there aren't too many people living in what would be the expanded area.
It's nice to see a station at a heralded frequency like 590 doing well, though.
No doubt it's way too late for WARM 590, however, given the reported equipment
conditions and the apathy toward music on the AM dial. Since this thread began, a
year and a half ago, some folks here probably have been able to grow full beards plus watch
them go grey.
I think that a similar agenda to bring back the music magic of WFIL, or WMCA, or WPDQ
Jacksonville would meet the same obstacles.
It doesn't look like they can send any more power east at Boston, and I believe a fourth stick is
the only way to push more watts out of a pattern that's symmetric -- the way a lot of three-tower
directionals are. I think it's called the axis of symmetry, where ideally an actual line can be drawn
down the middle of the pattern, leaving the same inkblot/information/directional characteristics on both
sides of the line.
Besides, there aren't too many people living in what would be the expanded area.
It's nice to see a station at a heralded frequency like 590 doing well, though.
No doubt it's way too late for WARM 590, however, given the reported equipment
conditions and the apathy toward music on the AM dial. Since this thread began, a
year and a half ago, some folks here probably have been able to grow full beards plus watch
them go grey.
I think that a similar agenda to bring back the music magic of WFIL, or WMCA, or WPDQ
Jacksonville would meet the same obstacles.
I'd love to see WFIL and WMCA brought back. Both wasting space with religious broadcasting now.
With Salem owning those stations, you know it won't happen! Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see some AMs resurrected including the two you mention in one form or another with quality programming including music; but making that happen will be an uphill battle! I'm assuming WROW is still hanging in there, but they're an exception. Moreover, I think it'd be cool to see some of the smaller or secondary AMs in a market exist on either hybrid revenue models (commercials and donations) or strictly by donations and offer unique avant-garde programming not available elsewhere. IOW bring back free-form/underground programming!
On another forum, someone asked the question : 'How does putting on new FM translators help the *AM* dial ?!?!'
If such an agenda is the lean of the FCC's top brass, this thread is more apt to outlast any remedies. The upcoming LPFM window alone (whenever it takes places) just may soak up those important remaining FM frequencies, major-market or otherwise.
The ideas of Chairperson Clyburn and Commissioner Pai are not apt to help those former heritage AM stations one bit.
If such an agenda is the lean of the FCC's top brass, this thread is more apt to outlast any remedies. The upcoming LPFM window alone (whenever it takes places) just may soak up those important remaining FM frequencies, major-market or otherwise.
The ideas of Chairperson Clyburn and Commissioner Pai are not apt to help those former heritage AM stations one bit.
It was over ten years ago when an actual AM market leader on a similar dial spot changed format because of aging demos.
That was WDAF in Kansas City. They were 5000 watts omni. Only one other station in North America had that 5000-watt omni distinction (KFRC San Francisco).
WDAF was, at the time, with their Country format, ON TOP OF THE RATINGS!
As I said, that was long ago. I forget to what format they changed 610 initially. It is now
KCSF, sports. They are getting a 4.5 as of now in the book. Big sister WDAF, still Country, is at a 5.9, fourth in the market, and #2 in terms of Country.
WDAF 610 may or may not have been correct in placing their music on FM a decade and change ago. Thing is, they exited while they were on top! WARM 590 does not have anywhere near that elbow room.
That was WDAF in Kansas City. They were 5000 watts omni. Only one other station in North America had that 5000-watt omni distinction (KFRC San Francisco).
WDAF was, at the time, with their Country format, ON TOP OF THE RATINGS!
As I said, that was long ago. I forget to what format they changed 610 initially. It is now
KCSF, sports. They are getting a 4.5 as of now in the book. Big sister WDAF, still Country, is at a 5.9, fourth in the market, and #2 in terms of Country.
WDAF 610 may or may not have been correct in placing their music on FM a decade and change ago. Thing is, they exited while they were on top! WARM 590 does not have anywhere near that elbow room.
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