This past week I took a trek to NYC. During my stay at the hotel, I tuned into WPLJ hoping to hear some new music that will be coming this way. Not only did I not hear any new music, Mix actually add's more new music than WPLJ does! Boston also has a much better morning show as well! What are your thoughts on Mix vs. WPLJ in general? Mix is a winner!
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Mix 104-1 is more cutting edge than WPLJ!
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...and people in Boston should care about WPLJ...why?
...because WPLJ is the legendary Hot AC station serving market #1...that is why. In a perfect world, it would be the premiere Hot AC station in the USA, however when Cumulus acquired Citadel, it has become more cookie cutter. The morning show is still very good in my opinion, however Scott & Todd have been doing it for years and like anything else, it can sound dated after a while. I still enjoyed John Lander on Mix right until the end, even though he was getting up there in age. Karson & Kennedy are definitely a great morning show. They are younger and relate to the demo as well. Props to Jay Beau Jones for bringing them to Boston from Memphis. I also think Jay Beau's decision to hire Matthew Reid for evenings was a good one. He's a great talent. Of course Jay Beau has been gone for a few years and recently Greg Strassell left. I can only hope that Mix continues to have a bright future and stays fresh. I feel they are still sounding quite good.
Hint: NYC is not Boston, NYC's market rank is irrelevant, and WPLJ is utterly irrelevant to Mix 104.1. Two different stations in two different markets. Anyone who's been in this business for more than five minutes already understands that one market's success story does not necessarily automatically translate into success in another market.
If you want to listen to NYC radio, no worries...but this is the Boston board.
I've been following radio for a real long time now, and anyone with a half wits knows that it all follows from market #1 down. IOW, in radio in the USA takes its cues from the largest market. Z100 leads the nation for CHR for example, but in the case of 'PLJ, Mix leads instead.
Yes son, you must understand that anything having to do with New York City is automatically suspect and cannot ever be considered for Boston. Boston, Hub of the Universe, is an island nation that knows what's good for itself and has no need to look outward to the rest of the world to think about anything else. Obviously you haven't noticed that it's still 1957 here.
I've been working in radio for 44 years, and anyone with a half wits (whatever that is) who has actually worked in the business already knows that what works in market A does not necessarily translate into success in markets B, C, D, etc. Your original lament about Mix being "better" (IYO) than WPLJ proves the point.
Translating programming from market to market is one thing, NYC is another. New York has always been the mother market. That's the top level in our industry (or at least, it once was.) Everyone looks to NYC now and then.
One man's contradictory statements (which always seem to be contradictory) doesn't make it otherwise.
One man's contradictory statements (which always seem to be contradictory) doesn't make it otherwise.
IOW=in other words.
Correcting the know-it-alls who seem to permeate this board, most of whom have never worked so much as an hour in radio but claim to be the fount of all knowledge, is my passion. In my spare time, it's my hobby.
Post-whores not included. (ducking and covering...)
I hear you, Dumber. There are but a handful of posters here, who have the slightest clue about this business.
Just because one has many thousands of posts, and has to always get in the last word, does not make them anything less than a wannabe, a never-was, and a never will-be. I don't even bother to read those posts anymore - one big waste of my time. Hang in there, buddy - I always look forward to reading your insights!
Just because one has many thousands of posts, and has to always get in the last word, does not make them anything less than a wannabe, a never-was, and a never will-be. I don't even bother to read those posts anymore - one big waste of my time. Hang in there, buddy - I always look forward to reading your insights!
OK, all foolishness aside, back to the topic at hand...
If Boston is a unique market (and I like to believe that it is,) then why is WPLJ and WBMX playing the exact same songs? Yes, I know its the same format, but they are different markets, therefore should variate to a degree, but don't really. OK, with Mix playing more new music than 'PLJ than maybe that is the variation. However if Boston is so original then why did CBS pull WODS for its cloned Amp Radio? Just an example here.
If Boston is a unique market (and I like to believe that it is,) then why is WPLJ and WBMX playing the exact same songs? Yes, I know its the same format, but they are different markets, therefore should variate to a degree, but don't really. OK, with Mix playing more new music than 'PLJ than maybe that is the variation. However if Boston is so original then why did CBS pull WODS for its cloned Amp Radio? Just an example here.
Since they are the same format, a majority of the songs will be the same. Additionally, Mix plays some newer stuff and moves it faster. That's because of their unique competitive situation, WPLJ programs based on theirs. Both stations are middle-of-the-pack 6+ and both do well within their demo. That's life as a Hot AC. You seem to feel WPLJ isn't what you want it to be. But considering you're not a suburban New Jersey 30-something woman, maybe that's why.
As for WODS becoming AMP. That was a move based on the makeup of the Boston radio landscape and how that piece of the puzzle worked into CBS's business plan, it wasn't just pulled to clone the brand. You're blurring the lines between originality and strategy right there.
Considering that the radio business is in decline, with any vestiges of popularity, attractive compensation and job security long gone, I find the idea of wannabes for this line of work both amusing and pathetic at the same time. Kinda like wannabe telegraph operators or buggy whip makers.
I certainly respect the opinions and statements of anyone who works in the business, and believe that they tend to carry more weight as a result. This board, however, is not restricted to insiders - if it is I missed it. If you members of the brotherhood don't wan't to be bothered/annoyed/insulted by the musings of the unworthy, then either form you own board restricted to your colleagues or don't bother looking or posting here.
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Congratulations on missing the point entirely.
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