He is trolling. Because on the rock board, he keeps insisting that separate tracks by Van Halen somehow form a "medley." If he can listen to Eddie Van Halen's guitar playing, he can certainly tolerate a little electric guitar on a Carpenters or Christopher Cross record.
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Musical selections that seem out of character
- Thread starter vchimpanzee
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I am not a big fan of early fadeouts (although I sometimes have had to do them in order to bring in the network news on time), and I certainly am NOT a fan of early fadeouts to appease 1/1,000,000 of the listening audience.
It doesn't fit the format. Case closed.
It is offensive and your question makes no sense. And the songs were done the way they were for ANOTHER format.
I know what rock radio stations once did.
And I know what I want on MY radio station.
Everything on a nostalgia station was done for another format.
And if we want to get as close as we can to the format, let's look at Easy Listening/MOR/Adult Contemporary in 1972....where "Goodbye To Love" made #2, compared to its peak of #7 on the Hot 100.
Songs are not made for specific formats... they are made to sell recordings. Radio is a promotional vehicle for the music... or at least, has been... for many decades.
Formats like Beautiful Music often employed specialists to edit out parts of songs that did not fit the format so that they would belong in the blend. Or they took out of format original song recordings and did format-appropriate covers with vocalists or orchestras that did sound "right."
Just look at Norah Jones' "Don't Know Why". At its peak, it was being played on everything from Adult Standards to Rhythmic CHR.
And I find it terribly strange that back in the day, Alicia Bridges' Disco classic "I Love The Nightlife" got some airplay on Country stations. You sure won't hear WSM playing it these days...
Why don't you look up Richard Carpenter and tell him that? (Good luck with that!) As for the rest of us, we don't really give a damn. And I see that you have been proven WRONG by others on here.
Key word is "once." They ain't doing it no more!
"Your" radio station? Please give us the call letters of "your" station, and your website address, so that we can look it up and listen online.
That's true of AC and what would be called oldies now, but the real standards were done for a station that played that kind of music when it was new.
How do YOU know?
Dial Global America's Best Music is currently doing a music mix which most of the time I feel really comfortable with.
Why does Richard Carpenter care what Christopher Cross did?
And what has Richard actually done on MY radio station? Just asking. Does he play the piano? Does he do background vocals?
I just think adult standards should be doing this if they want to play the songs which would otherwise fit.
I am conceding on "She's a Lady" by Tom Jones and "The Year of the Cat" by Al Stewart.
One song I haven't mentioned is "Guitar Man". That one really doesn't belong. Parts of it fit, but the guitar is totally out of character.
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Just to make a few things clear, I think most of us would say "my" radio station to refer to a station we would choose to listen to. I really think Dial Global standards has made an effort to sound a certain way, and it just really bothers me when I hear things that don't fit. I apologize for getting so defensive about the situation, but it seems to me that if they're going to play more actual "standards" than are really necessary (though I do appreciate it!) they should be careful to avoid train wrecks. And I feel "threatened" if even older people are more accpeting of louder music. To the person who accused me of trolling, I'm not saying I never listen to louder music, and you'd be amazed at what I do like in certain situations, but I think all of us want a refuge from the noise. I don't have the money for XM. I don't have the money for cable TV and TiVo, and yet I keep being forced to spend more and more just to tape TV shows. I really don't need to add XM, or Internet radio in the car, or sound on my computer, or fast enough Internet to actually listen to anything live. So you'll understand, I hope, if I get frustrated with any attempts to take the music away just because of target audiences or what adveritsers want. My station--and by that I mean the one I feel comfortable listening to, which is close enough to where I lvie--is one of two community radio stations, which attracts a lot of advertisers.
Something happened to me 16 years ago this week, which I was reminded of as I walked through a certain neighborhood which I still remember walking through earlier that month as I dealt with the loss of what had been a good station. "Time, Love and Tenderness" by Michael Bolton was the song that told me something had changed. And there were very unsettling high-tech synthesized drums, much like one would hear in today's AC, only considerably briefer. But still very out of character. And among the songs that didn't fit were "One More Try" by George Michael and "You're in Love" by Wilson Phillips (not really too bad), "Nightshift" by The Commodores (not excessively bad but not good), "Missing You" by John Waite and something by the Thompson Twins, though I hadn't heard it and the artist was all the DJ mentioned. And a song the station was absolutely obsessed with--"I Do It for You" by Bryan Adams. I also heard a clip from "Just Like Jesse James" by Cher. When I heard "FM' by Steely Dan, my first thought was that the rock radio station that messed up the station's signal was doing it again. No, I heard something else on that station. Minutes later I got on the Internet, went to the station's new web site, and clicked where I could send an email. I congratulated their talented music director and recommend he go on the late night talk shows. On the subject line I typed "chimpanzee"--or intended to. The typo you can see in this post. I didn't have an email address but when I got one several years later, that's the name I chose. I also used it on imdb. Shortly after this, the experiment was over and the DJs were sent packing. Mitch Miller was actually played on a local show on the first day I knew for sure they were back. Through all this, Stardust was used at night, which was really bizarre because back then it was VERY traditional at that time of day. Stardust was back except for the morning show and that one weekend show with Mitch Miller among others.
Even today, those songs I mentioned haven't made their way into a standards format. At least not one I'm familiar with.
Something happened to me 16 years ago this week, which I was reminded of as I walked through a certain neighborhood which I still remember walking through earlier that month as I dealt with the loss of what had been a good station. "Time, Love and Tenderness" by Michael Bolton was the song that told me something had changed. And there were very unsettling high-tech synthesized drums, much like one would hear in today's AC, only considerably briefer. But still very out of character. And among the songs that didn't fit were "One More Try" by George Michael and "You're in Love" by Wilson Phillips (not really too bad), "Nightshift" by The Commodores (not excessively bad but not good), "Missing You" by John Waite and something by the Thompson Twins, though I hadn't heard it and the artist was all the DJ mentioned. And a song the station was absolutely obsessed with--"I Do It for You" by Bryan Adams. I also heard a clip from "Just Like Jesse James" by Cher. When I heard "FM' by Steely Dan, my first thought was that the rock radio station that messed up the station's signal was doing it again. No, I heard something else on that station. Minutes later I got on the Internet, went to the station's new web site, and clicked where I could send an email. I congratulated their talented music director and recommend he go on the late night talk shows. On the subject line I typed "chimpanzee"--or intended to. The typo you can see in this post. I didn't have an email address but when I got one several years later, that's the name I chose. I also used it on imdb. Shortly after this, the experiment was over and the DJs were sent packing. Mitch Miller was actually played on a local show on the first day I knew for sure they were back. Through all this, Stardust was used at night, which was really bizarre because back then it was VERY traditional at that time of day. Stardust was back except for the morning show and that one weekend show with Mitch Miller among others.
Even today, those songs I mentioned haven't made their way into a standards format. At least not one I'm familiar with.
Okay, fair enough. I can't afford XM yet, either, although I don't believe that I suggested that on this thread, although I have on others.
The Dial Global station nearest to me (that I am aware of anyway) is more mainstream AC, although they frequently interrupt their music for college football, etc. It is run more like a "local" station. Their morning show is one of those "town hall" formats that don't play any music at all! Borrinngg! And they stick us with Duh-lilah at night, and while she, too, can be boring, she actually occasionally plays better music than what I would hear at the same time on Mix 92.9, who dropped Duh-lilah about a year and a half ago.
The Dial Global station nearest to me (that I am aware of anyway) is more mainstream AC, although they frequently interrupt their music for college football, etc. It is run more like a "local" station. Their morning show is one of those "town hall" formats that don't play any music at all! Borrinngg! And they stick us with Duh-lilah at night, and while she, too, can be boring, she actually occasionally plays better music than what I would hear at the same time on Mix 92.9, who dropped Duh-lilah about a year and a half ago.
"Formats like Beautiful Music often employed specialists to edit out parts of songs that did not fit the format so that they would belong in the blend." Many Beautiful Music stations aired music that was created by their syndicator, which hired writers, arrangers and entire orchestras.
You're too young to remember MOR radio. It was a blend that included some fairly raucous big-band, swing and bop along with what became known as standards. And those stations started transitioning away from that and including pop singles (including "Goodbye To Love", guitar and all) more than 40 years ago.
The audience that misses the old approach is now, for the most part, over 80. I was a weird kid who liked it and I'm 57...which puts me outside any advertiser-desired demo.
Time has done what time does.
Richard is one-half of the Carpenters (actually, for the last 30 years, he's been the only Carpenter left).
He produced the Carpenters' hits and it was he who suggested that Tony Peluso do the guitar solo in "Goodbye To Love" (as a means of moving forward from sax solos like the one in "Rainy Days and Mondays").
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