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What do you think you could get if you were...
- Thread starter Buckeyes2001
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What I actually got was WOBL, with some I-SLOP from WEXL, and not a trace of WILS (which surprised me).
BTW, WOBL is strong enough a little further east (Lakeshore Drive, Grosse Pointe Farms) that one could listen to them without too much splatter from WDTW when it was on.
I've never heard KYW in Oregon. It's CKMX (Funny 1060AM) that we hear.
Radio-locator says there is K288CP 105.5 Merlin, OR there. Otherwise very weak, if any, KKKJ Merrill, OR 70 miles, or KEUG, Eugene 108 miles away. Mountains likely block most of their signals; noticed a lot of weak signals blocked by big hills and mountains when I was in Roseburg, OR.
Ok here's something else. 
Near solar noon (within 30 minutes or sun within 5 degrees of max elevation), on the summer solstice during solar maximum,
During a geomagnetic/solar event that ensures TOTAL ionospheric absorption (groundwave ONLY is to be received - a signal that causes RF burns on one side of D-layer is not to be detectable on the other side), but doesn't increase noise level,
During a regional power blackout, when there's no lightning storms within about 4000 miles (noise should be as low as possible to give you a chance)
Using the best radio and antenna combination that exists (for example, a signal undetectable on a CCRadio, PR-D5 or Superradio may still overload this setup so much that on-frequency reception is so badly distorted as to be unintelligible - can't even discern music vs speech - or does such a sensitive setup exist?) ....
At the following 50kW transmitter sites, on their frequencies, while they are off the air.
540 CBK Watrous, SK
640 KFI Los Angeles, CA
680 KNBR San Francisco, CA
720 KDWN Las Vegas, NV
1000 KOMO Seattle, WA
1070 KNX Los Angeles, CA
1160 KSL Salt Lake City, UT
1180 KERN Wasco-Greenacres, CA
1260 CFRN Edmonton, AB
1530 KFBK Sacramento, CA
What would you hear?
Near solar noon (within 30 minutes or sun within 5 degrees of max elevation), on the summer solstice during solar maximum,
During a geomagnetic/solar event that ensures TOTAL ionospheric absorption (groundwave ONLY is to be received - a signal that causes RF burns on one side of D-layer is not to be detectable on the other side), but doesn't increase noise level,
During a regional power blackout, when there's no lightning storms within about 4000 miles (noise should be as low as possible to give you a chance)
Using the best radio and antenna combination that exists (for example, a signal undetectable on a CCRadio, PR-D5 or Superradio may still overload this setup so much that on-frequency reception is so badly distorted as to be unintelligible - can't even discern music vs speech - or does such a sensitive setup exist?) ....
At the following 50kW transmitter sites, on their frequencies, while they are off the air.
540 CBK Watrous, SK
640 KFI Los Angeles, CA
680 KNBR San Francisco, CA
720 KDWN Las Vegas, NV
1000 KOMO Seattle, WA
1070 KNX Los Angeles, CA
1160 KSL Salt Lake City, UT
1180 KERN Wasco-Greenacres, CA
1260 CFRN Edmonton, AB
1530 KFBK Sacramento, CA
What would you hear?
540 - I'd discern KWMT Fort Dodge, IA likely. Maybe WXYG and maybe WAUK.
640 - Mexican groundwave? Better in winter
680 - maybe some real weak carriers (like Mexico, or KKGR...)
720 - I'd say Mexico again, real weak
1000 - nothing likely (and CBR/KOOR may splatter it)
1070 - More Mexicans weak
1160 - If you are lucky, one of the TX stations may have groundwave - but I don't know due to the mountains. Anything's possible on a 50KW transmitter!!
1180 - maybe a weak KOFI?
1260 - I'd say KBLY, KLYC, maybe SD...
1530 - Mexicans?
-crainbebo
640 - Mexican groundwave? Better in winter
680 - maybe some real weak carriers (like Mexico, or KKGR...)
720 - I'd say Mexico again, real weak
1000 - nothing likely (and CBR/KOOR may splatter it)
1070 - More Mexicans weak
1160 - If you are lucky, one of the TX stations may have groundwave - but I don't know due to the mountains. Anything's possible on a 50KW transmitter!!
1180 - maybe a weak KOFI?
1260 - I'd say KBLY, KLYC, maybe SD...
1530 - Mexicans?
-crainbebo
not even during a regional power blackout at a time when the nearest lightning is over 5,000 miles away, with phased bverage antennas + KNX towers (yes they have 2 but only use 1 at a time), feeding a good communications receiver?
Speaking of which, I wonder what comm rx is good enough with overload prevention & splatter prevention so that - you could be using KNX's tower listening to a TA on 1071 (not Air India - anything under 8000 miles and/or over 1 kW is cheating), then when KNX powers back on your reception of that TA is not at all degraded... (I'm guessing the Perseus may not quite make the grade, or would it? too bad I can't afford it - an SRF-59 is barely inexpensive enough to not need a mortage for me to obtain one.)
Speaking of which, I wonder what comm rx is good enough with overload prevention & splatter prevention so that - you could be using KNX's tower listening to a TA on 1071 (not Air India - anything under 8000 miles and/or over 1 kW is cheating), then when KNX powers back on your reception of that TA is not at all degraded... (I'm guessing the Perseus may not quite make the grade, or would it? too bad I can't afford it - an SRF-59 is barely inexpensive enough to not need a mortage for me to obtain one.)
New one:
680 kHz in Elm Creek, NE
680 kHz in Elm Creek, NE
Re: 107.5 in Seymour, IN-
It was actually a very weak WRVW- Lebanon, TN and WABX- Evansville, IN mix. WRVW is helped out threefold by terrain, tall tower and open frequency and was doable several miles beyond the other Nashville stations. To put it into perspective, 101.1 WUBT Russellville, KY, a monster signal in it's own right, operates from a tower a good 20 miles north of Nashville and still doesn't make it to Elizabethtown (100 miles approximately)
WIOK- Falmouth, KY didn't make an appearance until between Louisville and Elizabethtown on Interstate 65, and even then it was very weak and very brief before the aforementioned WRVW took over the frequency.
WZRX, WGPR and WGCI weren't until well north of Indianapolis on I-69.
It was actually a very weak WRVW- Lebanon, TN and WABX- Evansville, IN mix. WRVW is helped out threefold by terrain, tall tower and open frequency and was doable several miles beyond the other Nashville stations. To put it into perspective, 101.1 WUBT Russellville, KY, a monster signal in it's own right, operates from a tower a good 20 miles north of Nashville and still doesn't make it to Elizabethtown (100 miles approximately)
WIOK- Falmouth, KY didn't make an appearance until between Louisville and Elizabethtown on Interstate 65, and even then it was very weak and very brief before the aforementioned WRVW took over the frequency.
WZRX, WGPR and WGCI weren't until well north of Indianapolis on I-69.
Ok, maybe something a little different, if this is allowed?
First off, might there be locations within the lower 48 states where *NO* AM stations are detectable (not even with SSB/BFO/CW) midday on groundwave with less than a 3-meter-per-side tunable loop or equivalent antenna?
If so, what might be the strongest skywave station received there?
Any chance that such location may possibly have the strongest skywaves NOT be Class A stations, or stations with 10kW or more transmitter power at night? Or maybe the strongest skywaves are the graveyards?
As another idea, what would be the closest you could get to one of the non-directional 50kW Class A Clear stations around sunrise/sunset, and have it completely covered (uncopyable and un-DX-able) by a co-channel station on day facilities? (Also midwinter midday skip counts, too.) Only include stations licensed within the USA - no Canadians, Cubans, Mexicans, etc. Bonus points if you're close enough to the Class A for it to trip the seek on an average radio at midday in summer, better yet if most female friends (great-grandmas to wives to great-granddaughters, cousins, aunts, nieces, etc) consider it to be perfectly listenable. (I'm referring to midday summer reception of the Class A.) In such a case, what might be the location, the offending Class D (or Class B) station, and the affected Class A?
First off, might there be locations within the lower 48 states where *NO* AM stations are detectable (not even with SSB/BFO/CW) midday on groundwave with less than a 3-meter-per-side tunable loop or equivalent antenna?
If so, what might be the strongest skywave station received there?
Any chance that such location may possibly have the strongest skywaves NOT be Class A stations, or stations with 10kW or more transmitter power at night? Or maybe the strongest skywaves are the graveyards?
As another idea, what would be the closest you could get to one of the non-directional 50kW Class A Clear stations around sunrise/sunset, and have it completely covered (uncopyable and un-DX-able) by a co-channel station on day facilities? (Also midwinter midday skip counts, too.) Only include stations licensed within the USA - no Canadians, Cubans, Mexicans, etc. Bonus points if you're close enough to the Class A for it to trip the seek on an average radio at midday in summer, better yet if most female friends (great-grandmas to wives to great-granddaughters, cousins, aunts, nieces, etc) consider it to be perfectly listenable. (I'm referring to midday summer reception of the Class A.)
In such a case, what might be the location, the offending Class D (or Class B) station, and the affected Class A?- Status