• Get involved.
    We want your input!
    Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.

    After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
    If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.

    After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/

    Thanks in advance and have fun!
    RadioDiscussions Administrators

Could WWLI move from 105.1 to 105.3?

Could WWLI move from 105.1 to 105.3 and be 2nd adjacent to WBOQ? This would allow WBOQ to have a considerably better signal into Boston while still giving WWLI a full market signal in Providence. Some years ago, WXTK was permitted to move form 94.9 to 95.1, could WWLI do the same type of move?
 
Nope. Way short to first-adjacent WQGN Groton. Even shorter to WPTY on Long Island.

It's a pretty good assumption at this point that everything between Bangor and the middle of Virginia is locked in by some sort of short-spacing by now.
 
No. There isn't enough distance between The Pru in Boston and Neutaconcanut hill in Johnston. A move to 105.3 would make WWLI second adjacent to WROR, and there isn't enough allowed distance there.

As a general rule, NONE of the big class B's in New England can make any type of move.
 
The WWLI/WROR relationship is an interesting one. Keep in mind that the FCC's spacing rules for full-power stations are exactly the same for third-adjacent channels as for second-adjacent channels. WWLI and WROR are already a few km short (68.55 km versus full spacing of 74 km) at third-adjacent, but they're also grandfathered in as pre-1964 licenses. I'm not at all sure how the grandfathering rules for pre-1964 would affect a change from third- to second-adjacent...but if the only issue were WROR, WWLI could specify allotment coordinates a few km south of Johnston and use 73.215 short-spacing to make the move to 105.3 work.

It's WQGN (69 km actual versus 113 km required first-adjacent A to B) and WPTY (151 km actual versus 178 km required co-channel A to B) that kill this one...and that doesn't even get into the question of whether WBOQ would have enough spacing against other co- and adjacent-channel stations even if WWLI becomes second adjancet. Without running the numbers, I suspect the spacing to 104.7 on the Cape and to 104.9 in Connecticut would continue to be an issue. WXLO could be a factor, too. Lots of pieces on that particular chess board.

(Edit: I got curious and started running the numbers on WBOQ-with-WWLI-second-adjacent. It doesn't quite fit, even so - get far enough from WOCN on 104.7 and you're just a bit short to WXLO, and vice versa. WIHS isn't an issue. But it doesn't matter as long as you can't move WWLI, and you can't move WWLI.)
 
Last edited:
Could WWLI move from 105.1 to 105.3 and be 2nd adjacent to WBOQ? This would allow WBOQ to have a considerably better signal into Boston while still giving WWLI a full market signal in Providence. Some years ago, WXTK was permitted to move form 94.9 to 95.1, could WWLI do the same type of move?

Ridiculous idea. WWLI has the best signal in the state of RI. Nobody is going to fool with it. WXTK had signal issues with 94.9 Mt. Washington.

-
 
Last edited:
I am not sure that WWLI has the best FM signal in the state; WHJY either ties WWLI or beats it. For both signals, reception state wide is perfect nearly everywhere. I have picked up WHJY farther west into Connecticut, and 'HJY's signal is more audible in Boston than is Lite's. 'HJY's signal is also better on Cape Cod.
 
HJY's stick is a few miles east of where WWLI's is, so a bit better reception on the Cape and eastern Massachusetts would make sense. In Connecticut, however, 105.1 has more competing with its signal (WIHS, WQGN, WWPR), while HJY only really has WYBC. They seem about equal to me. Though not a true Providence station, I was always a bit curious by how WCTK carries so well.

Jacko
 
Good point regarding WCTK, Jacko. A few ideas: There is little competition at 98.1 on the dial. The closest stations - 98.3/Wilimantic (very weak and has some terrain issues); 97.9 in the Springfield market (again, some terrain issues) - do not present too many problems. Moreover, unlike Fun 107, 98.1 does not have any kind of a null toward Providence.
 
104.9 & 105.1

Maybe 105.1 WWLI cannot move to 105.3 to allow 104.9 WBOQ to upgrade BUT if Tanger acquires 105.1 (or Cumulus acquires 104.9) they can downgrade 105.1 from class B to A or pull a null and then conversely upgrade 104.9 from class A to B, of course finally displacing class D co-channel 104.9 WRBB in Boston. Either that or hop towers again closer to Boston. This would be a similar shuffle to CC's 101.5/101.7/101.9
 
All this talk about stations in one state poaching or impairing stations in another state just doesn't seem right. It isn't like Rhode Island is over-endowed with big signals anyway.
 
Status
This thread has been closed due to inactivity. You can create a new thread to discuss this topic.


Back
Top Bottom