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LARadioRewind said:
David, any idea why, during the past week, KRTH would play the Beach Boys' Dance Dance Dance (8/1964) but not Good Vibrations (1/1966)? And why are certain '60s songs, such as Wild Thing and Brown Eyed Girl, played ten to twelve times a week while others are completely ignored? And how much longer before KRTH drops all the '60s music?
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As to why one song plays and another song does not, the answer is usually in the test results which answer the "do people want to hear it today?" question.

Stations don't program by decade or era. They program by target age demo. If the target likes a song, they play it.

Keep in mind that Brown Eyed Girl is a rather interesting exception in that it did not get a lot of airplay as a current when compared to other songs... it sort of crept up on the audience over the years and is as close to an anthem as we see in classic hits.
 
And I keep wishing that Morrison had kept the original title of Brown Skinned Girl---maybe it wouldn't have gotten much airplay in 1967 and we wouldn't have had to hear it 20 times a week for 46 years!
 
oldies76 said:
"Everything Is Beautiful" is a hit by Ray Stevens. #1 in 1970
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That's true but it only used the children's chant to get into the main song. I was trying to come up with an example that wasn't a hit. Let's go with the theme from "Gilligan's Island." No wait, that's part of "Gilligan's Stairway"! I know, the "Jeopardy" music!
 
DavidEduardo said:


As to why one song plays and another song does not, the answer is usually in the test results which answer the "do people want to hear it today?" question.

Stations don't program by decade or era. They program by target age demo. If the target likes a song, they play it.

Keep in mind that Brown Eyed Girl is a rather interesting exception in that it did not get a lot of airplay as a current when compared to other songs... it sort of crept up on the audience over the years and is as close to an anthem as we see in classic hits.
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Where I grew up, "Brown-eyed Girl" was a big hit in 1967! I remember it very well.
 
That familiar music used during the final Jeopardy! question is called Think! and was written by Merv Griffin.
 
semoochie said:
Where I grew up, "Brown-eyed Girl" was a big hit in 1967! I remember it very well.
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Nationally, per Billboard, it peaked one week at #10, up from 27th the week before. It did not stay at it's peak for long. It was definitely a song that "improved" with age... including one of only about 10 BMI songs that have received 10,000,000 radio spins.

I'm not saying that it did not get airplay. It did. It was just not a big, big hit at the time and its later airplay far exceeds its initial performance.

When you compare it to the initial and follow up reaction to the top BMI airplay song, "You've Lost that Lovin' Feeling", it performed in an almost mediocre form when first released.
 
Isn't this the same Rick Thomas that did weekends on 101.9 FM,
Back in 1982? Am I way off on this point or no?
And if it's the same guy,
it looks like he's bringing back some of the R&B they played on 101.9,
And putting it on KRTH and KTWV.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned this,
Or observed it,
if it's the same Thomas.
 
32james said:
Isn't this the same Rick Thomas that did weekends on 101.9 FM,
Back in 1982? Am I way off on this point or no?
And if it's the same guy,
it looks like he's bringing back some of the R&B they played on 101.9,
And putting it on KRTH and KTWV.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned this,
Or observed it,
if it's the same Thomas.
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It really does not matter what a programmer played 20 years ago.

While experience in different music genres can be important, a programmer is not selecting songs based on personal preferences.
 
LARadioRewind said:
And I keep wishing that Morrison had kept the original title of Brown Skinned Girl---maybe it wouldn't have gotten much airplay in 1967 and we wouldn't have had to hear it 20 times a week for 46 years!
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You really, really dislike that song I can tell....I think you've made your point, these last 46 days!! Hopefully, while I'm listening this morning, I can catch an oldie being played, like the three "lost hits" that aired last week. Nothing through 9am this morning.
 
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DavidEduardo said:
Nationally, per Billboard, it peaked one week at #10, up from 27th the week before. It did not stay at it's peak for long. It was definitely a song that "improved" with age... including one of only about 10 BMI songs that have received 10,000,000 radio spins.
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It did reach #2, on the Boss 30 chart in 1967, so it was quite popular in L.A., thus the heavy radio play these last few decades.

http://www.users.qwest.net/~oldiesloon/khj083067.htm
 
oldies76 said:
It did reach #2, on the Boss 30 chart in 1967, so it was quite popular in L.A., thus the heavy radio play these last few decades.

http://www.users.qwest.net/~oldiesloon/khj083067.htm
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Still, most songs that grow legs late usually get a boost from some movie or TV series. As far as I can tell, nothing of the sort happened to "Brown Eyed Girl." It suddenly sprouted on oldies stations' playlists in the late '80s and has stayed there ever since, right through the transition to classic hits and the phase-out of the decade from which it comes. I've always liked the song and don't go station-switching when it comes on, but I still wonder what the secret of its long-term success is.
 
That David Eduardo is such a tease! He names only one song that has been played 10,000,000 times: Brown Eyed Girl. (I'm guessing that at least 7,000,000 of those spins are from KRTH.) I don't pay any attention to which songs are BMI and which are ASCAP or SESAC, but I would think that among the other 10,000,000-play songs are Yesterday, Don't Be Cruel (Elvis), White Christmas (Crosby), My Girl, Hey Jude, I Want To Hold Your Hand, Bridge Over Troubled Water, You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling and Candle In The Wind 1997. Did I win the prize?
 
LARadioRewind said:
but I would think that among the other 10,000,000-play songs are Yesterday, Don't Be Cruel (Elvis), White Christmas (Crosby), My Girl, Hey Jude, I Want To Hold Your Hand, Bridge Over Troubled Water, You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling and Candle In The Wind 1997. Did I win the prize?
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Sorry, you didn't win. Elton John has specifically said that "Candle in the Wind '97" would never be performed again since that dreaded day, back in '97 (unless a special circumstance warranted it to be played again). Since the single was released, I have never heard it on the radio either. Only the original 1973 "Candle in the Wind" has been played.
 
How about Bing Crosby's White Christmas? It's been played a million times every year year since it was first released on an Edison cylinder in 1901. :)

Today I added two more to the KRTH list: Madonna's Vogue (1/1990) and Johnny Rivers' remake (6/1972) of Huey "Piano" Smith & the Clowns' 1957 regional hit Rockin' Pneumonia & The Boogie Woogie Flu. Johnny explains why he recorded that song:

http://www.johnnyrivers.com/jr/hits.html
 
I made it up, of course. Couldn't you tell? :)

Bing's White Christmas, from the movie Holiday Inn, spent eleven weeks at number one in 1942. It reached #6 in 1943, #5 in 1944, number one again in 1945 and 1946, #3 in 1947, #6 in 1948, #5 in 1949, #13 in 1950, #13 in 1951, #21 in 1953---hey, what happened to 1952?---#21 in 1954, and #7 in 1955. It also re-charted every year from 1956 to 1962. And we're talking about the pop chart; Billboard didn't begin an annual Christmas chart until 1963. There were two versions of White Christmas: Bing recorded the original in 1942 and another version in 1947. Seventy-one years later and the song still gets played every year---even on KRTH!
 
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From 1933 to 1958, The Kraft Music Hall aired weekly on NBC Radio. Bing Crosby hosted from 1936 to 1946. On the December 25 1941 episode, he sang White Christmas for the first time. The program was recorded but the song was not released on 78 until 1942, when Bing recorded it with the Ken Darby Singers. The version heard on radio today is usually the one from 1947. And almost all the singers who record White Christmas omit Irving Berlin's original intro:

"The sun is shining, the grass is green,
The orange and palm trees sway.
There's never been such a day
In Beverly Hills, L.A.
But it's December the 24th
And I am longing to be up north.
I'm dreaming of a white Christmas....."

Yeah, I suppose sunshine and palm trees and Beverly Hills aren't really what anyone would expect to hear in a Christmas song!
 
LARadioRewind said:
And almost all the singers who record White Christmas omit Irving Berlin's original intro:

"The sun is shining, the grass is green,
The orange and palm trees sway.
There's never been such a day
In Beverly Hills, L.A.
But it's December the 24th
And I am longing to be up north.
I'm dreaming of a white Christmas....."

Yeah, I suppose sunshine and palm trees and Beverly Hills aren't really what anyone would expect to hear in a Christmas song!
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Darlene Love's 1963 version from the album "A Christmas Gift for You from Philles Records" includes the above lyrics.
Darlene's live performances of "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" have been a staple of David Letterman's last live show before Christmas on NBC/CBS since 1986.

I'm sure that both songs will appear on KRTH (or at least other Christmas-themed outlets) now and for years to come.
 
LARadioRewind said:
I made it up, of course. Couldn't you tell? :)

Bing's White Christmas, from the movie Holiday Inn, spent eleven weeks at number one in 1942. It reached #6 in 1943, #5 in 1944, number one again in 1945 and 1946, #3 in 1947, #6 in 1948, #5 in 1949, #13 in 1950, #13 in 1951, #21 in 1953---hey, what happened to 1952?---#21 in 1954, and #7 in 1955. It also re-charted every year from 1956 to 1962. And we're talking about the pop chart; Billboard didn't begin an annual Christmas chart until 1963. There were two versions of White Christmas: Bing recorded the original in 1942 and another version in 1947. Seventy-one years later and the song still gets played every year---even on KRTH!
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I guess KRTH should pull that one from the Christmas rotation....appeals to a target audience of over 80. Ratings might crash. lol
Probably the oldest song in the KRTH library. Great tune!!!
 
pjc1961 said:


Darlene Love's 1963 version from the album "A Christmas Gift for You from Philles Records" includes the above lyrics.
Darlene's live performances of "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" have been a staple of David Letterman's last live show before Christmas on NBC/CBS since 1986.

I'm sure that both songs will appear on KRTH (or at least other Christmas-themed outlets) now and for years to come.
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...as does The Carpenters' version.
 
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