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Top 40 am history question

I was just referring to FM, and only the commercial band (WABE would be second oldest overall if you included the noncom band, and WREK would also be older than WZGC for one).

You are right--on AM, WGST is second oldest behind WSB. But what would be third? WPLO (not the same station, I know, and not continuously used either)? WQXI? WGKA (also not the same station, but in continuous use)? WFOM? WAOK? WYZE?

Another Top 40 AM: the short-lived WBAD 1570.

AM (Continuous) Call Letter History (Partial List - oldest stations)

1922 – WSB
1925 – WGST (from WGM (1922) > WBBF)
1941 – WGGA (Gainesville)
1946 – WFOM (Marietta)
1947 – WQXI
1949 – WDUN (Gainesville), WTJH – (East Point - Are they still on the air?)
1954 – WAOK (from WRBI (1928)(Tifton) > WJTL (Oglethorpe Univ., N. Atlanta) > WATL)
1955 – WGKA
1956 – WYZE
1958 – WPLO* (from WAGA (1938))
*(Changed to WKHS/590 in 1986. WPLO started again on 610 in 1990.)

WBAD/1570 started as WCPX in 1959, then WEAS, them WEAD, then WAIA, then WBAD (1967), then WSSA (1970), then WIGO (2007-present). WIGO was on 1340 and replaced WAKE in 1965. The 1340 history was WBGE > WAKE > WIGO > WALR > WIFN.

(WIGO were not "continuous" calls.)

WIGO was R&B/Urban from the start and gave WAOK good competition. Bob McKee had moved from WAKE to WAOK, and Tommy Goodwin ("TG") moved from WYNX to WIGO when it started up. Both held the morning shifts, so for awhile, the two top R&B/Urban stations in Atlanta had white guys in the morning drive. Nobody cared because they both sounded great. Radio was fun in ATL.
 
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(post was sent twice - this new forum format times out too quickly (or something like that) and I have to log in again before I can post, but it hasn't posted twice.)

Anyway, on FM, non-commercial WREK signed on in 1968 and WRAS signed on in 1971, the year before WGKA changed to WZGC.

That's it. :)
 
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Hey Trusty:

Thanks for the story you told on the history of WQXI in your days. I want to tell you that was a really big help with my research. I am writing to you because you said you visited WQXI. Would you remember the month and year you did that? Please take your time with your answer.

This would really help me round it down to when WQXI went from MOR to Top 40. Info I have been trying to find for months now.

Thank your for your help on this Trusty. I really appreciated it. When I am done with some of my research I will send you some of my finished product.

T.J.
 
Hey Trusty:

Thanks for the story you told on the history of WQXI in your days. I want to tell you that was a really big help with my research. I am writing to you because you said you visited WQXI. Would you remember the month and year you did that? Please take your time with your answer.

This would really help me round it down to when WQXI went from MOR to Top 40. Info I have been trying to find for months now.

Thank your for your help on this Trusty. I really appreciated it. When I am done with some of my research I will send you some of my finished product.

T.J.

I moved to Atlanta in '57 when I was 10 years old. I do remember riding in the car by this large plantation on Peachtree on top of a big hill and watching crews take about a year to remove dirt to level the property to below street level and construct Lenox Square. A couple of my mother's car's presets were WTAM/970 and WQXI/790. Both played popular music (I think WTAM was a little more "mellow".)

To the best of my memory, WQXI didn't become Top 40 overnight. If you remember Your Hit Parade on TV every week, it would have singers sing the top 10 records - mostly Sinatra/Patti Paige/Mitch Miller/Perry Como/etc. It was funny watching those singers struggle through more and more Elvis songs as Rock and Roll took over (and Little Richard was NOT Nat King Cole).

WQXI was like that, but with one difference: where Hit Parade couldn't change, Quixie did. WAKE had been playing Rock and Roll for a few years, and was ready to be imitated. QXI had a stronger signal (especially at night) and an established audience where WPLO had to start from scratch. Quixie was also heavy on promotion; if it could be promoted, Quixie would promote it. It had contests, free concerts and anything else to get and keep listeners who became super loyal while WPLO was always playing catch-up. PLO was a great station, but OXI got a (slight) head start and never looked back.

There was something that made Atlanta Top 40 different than any other in the nation: Heavy emphasis on R&B. It wasn't just because Atlanta had a large urban population; it was that, while other markets shyed away, or "whitened-up" R&B records and artists, Atlanta embraced them - saw the value in them - and became one of the greatest Top 40 markets in the nation.

Anyway, maybe some of my ramblings, while not giving you an exact month and year of OXI's changeover, will give a background of its involvement and evolvement. It was heavily involved with the kids and schools - something it couldn't be today because of Atlanta's growth and sprawl. (Matter of fact, the Top 40 station that was more involved with its listeners was WFOM.)

I would love to see your finished product. In the little spare time I had this past summer, I downloaded all the Atlanta station listings from the Broadcasting Yearbooks (and earlier publications) that David E. put online and made a spreadsheet that I can easily reference. Check your PM's.

And if you know where all that Lenox Square dirt went, please tell me. I sometimes still wonder about that. :D
 
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Hey Guys:

Could anybody tell me what "Modern Music" format meant in the early 60's?

I found an article about WQXI and that is what there format was. I think I found the exact date of WQXI going Top 40 and WFOM 1230 TOO. I will explain more later.

Thanks T.J.
 
Hey Guys:

Here is what I got for 2 stations start as Top 40.

WQXI 790 Top 40 debuted Jan 2, 1961 from Uptempo MOR. Esquire Co aq Oct 18, 1960. By 1962 was known as "Tigar Radio WQXI (QUIXIE)790"

Your research has made me more curious :). The 1960 Broadcasting Yearbook has WQXI owned by Rounsaville with sale to Esquire pending. The 1963 Yearbook has WQXI owned by Esquire (with what looks like to be a complete change in staff). The 1961-1962 Yearbook has the Atlanta pages missing. (Remember the Yearbooks reflect activity from the previous year.)

However, I found a full-page ad by Rounsaville on page A-139 of the 1960 Yearbook promoting its "First U.S. Negro-Programmed Chain" in Cincinnati, Louisville, Miami, Nashville, New Orleans and Tampa (with headquarters on Mathieson Dr. but no Atlanta station promoted). The ad was selling all the markets on the chain with one buy.

So, it SEEMS like the sale of WQXI (in this market where there was a lot of established competition for the urban listener) would be quite an incentive to fund the chain. I haven't researched these stations to find out how successful Rounsaville's venture was. (That can be made by someone with more resources.)

Now, with WPLO replacing WAGA in 1959, it SEEMS like both stations turned Top 40 within a year or two of each other. I vaguely remember WPLO hitting the air as a Top-40 station, but they could have evolved from the WAGA full-service format while they had to wait for the CBS contract to run out. (That research also can be made by someone with more resources.)

Of course, I was 12 at the time and mostly listened to WAKE. :D
 
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Trusty, I think someone who might know about all this would be (former WQXI DJ) Sam Hale. Sam has been ill, but someone said his condition was improving. Sam was an early and active member of the Georgia Radio Hall of Fame and is a super-nice guy.

You might try messaging him through Facebook.

I had a question for you. WAKE was only 250 watts, and I think the tower was around where the Georgia Tech dorms are now, south of the Varsity. Did you live close in?
 
Trusty, I think someone who might know about all this would be (former WQXI DJ) Sam Hale. Sam has been ill, but someone said his condition was improving. Sam was an early and active member of the Georgia Radio Hall of Fame and is a super-nice guy.

You might try messaging him through Facebook.

I had a question for you. WAKE was only 250 watts, and I think the tower was around where the Georgia Tech dorms are now, south of the Varsity. Did you live close in?

Thanks for the info. I've noticed grhof has been growing but needs a lot more info by us "mature" guys before we all die off :D.

We moved here in '57 and lived in Brookhaven - far from close in. As you know, 250 watts had more value in those days than they do now, so I could get it in the daytime, but lost it completely as night drew on*. So, I learned to DX and listen to Paul drew on WGST before he went to WAKE**.

(* Going north at night, you would lose WAKE around Peachtree Battle Ave. and WQXI right above the ATL city limits before Sandy Springs. WPLO was still going strong, and they had FM simulcast (where Top-40 records sounded so WEIRD at the time - just not "right" :D.)

(** One night, I HAD to go to downtown just to hear if Paul Drew meshed" with WAKE's fast formula, considering his delivery was so slow and methodical on WGST. That's when I learned most ANYONE could sound good with the Drake-Chenault-type formula because the formula - not the personality - ruled. Paul Drew sounded like he had adapted pretty well.)

I had always heard the WAKE tower was located on top of a building close to the old Crawford-Ward hospital, but never sure. Maybe someone here knows. I was going to check it out then, but I was in my early teens and discovered these things that took up most of my time - girls. :)

(I'd better get off because I'm beginning to REALLY remember things now...)
 
Trusty, I think you're right about the transmitter location. I believe it was around where Spring St now feeds into the Connector, kind of behind Crawford Long on top of a building. I once saw a photo, and I'm pretty sure it was on this very cool site: http://www.wakeatlanta.com/WAKE1340_0.html, which radio historians are going to love. But it doesn't seem to be on there now.
 
Trusty wrote: "I've noticed grhof has been growing but needs a lot more info by us "mature" guys before we all die off "
We welcome your info anytime. Our HISTORY of RADIO BROADCASTING in GEORGIA project with GSU is a work in progress.
 
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