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CBC to Shut Down Radio 2?
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FredLeonard
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The article makes clear: (1) This is not a sure thing and (2) if - IF - it happens, the programming would go online.
Or...
The corporation can sell off Radio2 to somebody who would continue to operate it.
The corporation can sell off the Radio2 stations to commercial broadcasters, as it sold off the Radio1 AMs.
Or the Tories back down and come up with money.
Or...
The corporation can sell off Radio2 to somebody who would continue to operate it.
The corporation can sell off the Radio2 stations to commercial broadcasters, as it sold off the Radio1 AMs.
Or the Tories back down and come up with money.
CBC has never "sold off" the radio 1 AMs. They simply shut down the transmitters. Only in 2 cities has any one applied for those coveted frequencies. Toronto and Montreal...and currently the Montreal radio 1 frequency is silent. A license has been granted for the frequency but that station has yet to sign on.
I don't like the sound of that. Radio 2 featured a lot of good AAA music. The AAA station in Vancouver, CKPK 102.7, is not very good..
I know this doesn't relate to the topic at hand.. but it seems like AAA and classical are the new genres to "target" by companies to cut from their lineup. It happened in Seattle; the heritage AAA station ended up turning into some awful CHR station and the classical station almost met the same fate. Thankfully, they went to a listener supported format.
I know this doesn't relate to the topic at hand.. but it seems like AAA and classical are the new genres to "target" by companies to cut from their lineup. It happened in Seattle; the heritage AAA station ended up turning into some awful CHR station and the classical station almost met the same fate. Thankfully, they went to a listener supported format.
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The two things they have in common is their audiences are small and old. Those tend to work better for listener-supported stations.
That is true. It doesn't matter if the radio station has an extremely loyal listener base (such as the station in Seattle); if it doesn't perform in the modern market, its gone.
Both the Seattle, WA and Vancouver, BC radio markets are heavily targeting the young demographic. In Vancouver, I only count five radio stations that would appeal to someone who is not a teenager [those being CKPK (AAA), CFMI (classic rock), CISL (classic hits), and CHHR (roots/rock), and CHQM (Adult Contemporary)]. Did I mention the fact that there are 3 CHR's?
I think CHR is the hottest format in radio right now. I can't name another format that is represented twice anywhere else in the city.
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This is a hot topic indeed.
Before anything can be terminated, CBC would need to review what frequencies to keep and which ones to get rid of.
In the Toronto market alone, how powerful is 90.3 FM? Wouldn't they simply shut down AM 860 and move the French CBC to 94.1 FM?
(giving up the 90.3 FM, AM repeater)
Also, that's just one market. If at all possible, how about eliminating anything AM that CBC owns?
Shutting down the CBC AM's would save a lot of money, would it not?
Before anything can be terminated, CBC would need to review what frequencies to keep and which ones to get rid of.
In the Toronto market alone, how powerful is 90.3 FM? Wouldn't they simply shut down AM 860 and move the French CBC to 94.1 FM?
(giving up the 90.3 FM, AM repeater)
Also, that's just one market. If at all possible, how about eliminating anything AM that CBC owns?
Shutting down the CBC AM's would save a lot of money, would it not?
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The signal rage of CBU-FM 88.1 in Vancouver is not nearly as impressive at their CBU 690 signal.
90.3 and 860 are completely different stations. 90.3 is Espace Musique, and 860 is Premiere Chaine. The fm music and fine arts, the AM public affairs with music late nights and overnights.
Oh. I thought programming merged a long time ago into one CBC french...is the late night and overnight two different sets of music?
So it CBC radio 2 intended to be a classical music station? I cant seem to figure out what the goal of the station is.
They're very different sets of music. In honesty the FM doesn't seem to have any announcing at all, and the AM does. The music on the AM is actually much more contemporary...even venturing into dance music territory at times or has a very international flavour. I've even noticed that 860 and Windsor's 1550 will be playing the same song, but our version of Premiere Chaine in Ottawa is playing something completely different and will match the station at 540 out of the Gaspe or will still be playing something that 540 isn't. Espace Musique is the same nation wide except for time zone differences.
When the CBC began migrating most of its AMs to FM, they did not sell the facilities... they, in effect, exchanged them for FM licenses, and then closed the AM. In a few cases like Montréal and Toronto, the abandoned AM channels were opened to new applications.
Similarly, the huge number of Canadian AMs that have moved to FM than had to shut off the AM. In some larger metros, new licences could be applied for. But in most places, the channel was permanently vacated.
This is the same thing as is now going on in Mexico where 85% of all AMs willl move to FM, and the AM channel will be permanently deleted and not available for a new license. This is because the Mexican congress has ruled, via legislation, that AM is no longer commercially viable.
That does not make sense to me. If Mexican broadcasting companies want to utilize AM radio, why is that so harmful? Its not like the AM frequencies are useful to emergency broadcasters or mobile providers.
The Senate of the United Mexican States declared that AM was not viable, and no further development should be permitted, meaning no new licenses. They coordinated with their equivalent of the FCC to make available FM channels for a swap of existing AMs for new FMs, a situation which would save jobs and companies while not increasing competition to the point of excess.
There will still be about 150 AMs left. The larger part are in the US border areas where agreements with the US do not allow more licenses to be granted given slightly different spacing requirements in the rest of Mexico. Then, in Mexico City, GDL, MTY and Puebla new FMs don't fit. And a batch of AMs that serve rural indigenous populations will remain as it was accepted that AM was a better solution for those peoples living in predominantly mountainous regions and who speak languages other than Spanish.
Unlike the US, in Mexico formats like news, talk and sports have long been on FM where they get huge shares. The ethnic, foreign language and religious formats that populate lots of US AM stations have little or no appeal or support in Mexico, so there is nothing useful to do with an AM after this switch.
In Mexico City, for example, quite a few AMs are rebroadcasting the talk or sports formats of sister FMs already and the AM shares are shrinking dramatically.
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