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[TVCOOL]

Probably neither. I remember posting elsewhere (can't remember where now, "so sue me"...) that some Fox stations were not exactly thrilled about carrying that afternoon kiddie block. An old pal of mine was promotion manager for a Fox affiliate in NY state back then. He and the sales staff held a little party the day Fox announced they were dumping their cartoons, because they felt the toons weren't "feeding" desirable demographics into their early news. The replacements were a Springer-style talk show and "judge" shows. So I'd guess you would get those or more sitcom reruns instead.

The missing ingredient is anticipation. When I was a kid I looked forward to the Saturday morning cartoons. Now everything's available everywhere all the time. Cartoons? Big honkin' deal.

Was this Fox affiliate WNYW?

 

[nomadcowatbk]

I've said before in other threads that E/I regulations forced the OTA networks to drop commercial kid's shows and cartoons and move to the Litton type programming, although I also think they used it as a convenient excuse to expand their morning news shows to Saturdays and cut back to the required 3 hours for E/I. But all anyone has to do to see what will happen if E/I regulations are dropped completely is to look at Fox and their switch to infomercials, which is the worst thing that can happen. If E/I regulations were dropped completely the other OTA networks would at best go to more news and sports, or at worst turn the time back over to local TV stations where it will most likely be more infomercials. The big 4 networks and CW will never go back to Saturday morning kid's shows like it used to be.


One thing I do think the networks could do better with E/I programming is to do the shows in a more entertaining way that will be more likely to attract kids. One example would be to do more shows like Beakman's World, which was both educational and fun. Instead they're selling out to Litton and/or infomercials.

Saved by the Bell was E/I, so was The Weird Al Show, problem is kids don't watch OTA TV, they watch Nickelodeon, CN, and Disney

 

[JeffM]

Was this Fox affiliate WNYW?

No, it was WSYT.

 

[crackedscreen]

What does difficult have to do with anything? If you want other people to click a link, you can either give them a reason to want to, or not. But if you don't give them a reason to want to, don't be surprised when they don't. You're the one starting the thread. You're asking people to click your link. It's your job to make them want to.

Who do you think you are, Mario500? I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. If you're interested in the topic, click the link to read about it. If not, move along. It's not a hard concept.

 

[crainbebo]

Crackedscreen, that was Avid Listener, not Mario500 giving that comment.

-crainbebo

 

[Avid Listener]

crackedscreen, that was avid listener, not mario500 giving that comment.

-crainbebo

rotflmao!

 

[crackedscreen]

Crackedscreen, that was Avid Listener, not Mario500 giving that comment.

-crainbebo

The implication obviously went over your head.

 

[vchimpanzee]

How hard is it to click a link? Yeah, and you're trying to talk to me about lazy.



You mean the same people that are "too damn lazy" to click a link?

Some of us are at home. WE don't trust any sites except the few safe ones. We'll go elsewhere at a library.

Another thing: before this site shut down some robot was spamming us with topics where we had to click on a link. We had to pay to see them. I realize that's different. Now the spam robot is limited to one section of this site.

I remember watching a show called "Linus the Lionhearted" but I don't remember a thing about it. I watched a lot of cartoons as a child, mostly Hanna-Barbera, and mostly whatever was on CBS. And because they were G-rated I didn't get that the so-called adult cartoons, which "The Simpsons" and "Family Guy" are examples of today, were any different. I watched "The Flintstones", "The Jetsons" and "Top Cat" not realizing they were for adults.

I also didn't get that the Bugs Bunny and Tom and Jerry cartoons were the same way. Or that there was a whole different level of humor to Bullwinkle, though many years later I saw Bullwinkle on a kids' show that aired in the afternoon.

 

[Mario500]

I believe "The Flintstones", "The Jetsons", "Top Cat", and the theatrical cartoons with Bugs Bunny and Tom and Jerry were originally made to appeal to any person of any age before advertisers that specialized in targeting children started sponsoring them on television.

 

[JeffM]

"The Bugs Bunny Show" itself (in its original version that began on ABC and later moved to CBS) started as a prime-time show, with segments featuring Bugs as an emcee, later removed as the commercial count increased. Other Saturday morning shows of the 60's that started in prime time included "The Alvin Show" (David Seville and his Chipmunks), "Beany and Cecil" (originally "Matty's Funnies" for its sponsor Mattel Toymakers, and based on Bob Clampett's puppet characters), and "Jonny Quest" (the first animated action-adventure show, created by newspaper-strip artist Doug Wildey, and quite violent in its original unedited versions.)

These shows all aired in early-evening slots (7:30 ET/6:30 CT; "Bullwinkle" even earlier) and competed with some of the lightweight sitcoms of the time; the intention was to bring the kids around the family TV set and hope Mom and Dad were watching too. Otherwise, how else to explain why the Flintstones' first sponsor was Winston Cigarettes!?

Teenagers became a factor in the cartoon audience for a while in the 60's with ABC's animated version of The Beatles, featuring all their hit songs; and to an extent with CBS's "Archies" series ABC's Jackson 5 and Osmonds cartoon series.

Today's prime-time animated shows are aimed at adults, even to having "parental discretion advised" bumpers at the beginning; they may not be meant for kids but try and keep them from watching...

 

[crainbebo]

How much sexual innuendo was in the Flintstones, compared to Family Guy. Family Guy, American Dad and the Simpsons are WAY different than The Flintstones of the 1960s.

-crainbebo

 

[Bill_W]

Saved by the Bell was E/I, so was The Weird Al Show, problem is kids don't watch OTA TV, they watch Nickelodeon, CN, and Disney

That's where my three children are looking for TV shows, on one of the Nicks, one of the Disney channels or CN, not on the ota channels.

 

[Bill_W]

How much sexual innuendo was in the Flintstones, compared to Family Guy. Family Guy, American Dad and the Simpsons are WAY different than The Flintstones of the 1960s.

-crainbebo

I told my 9 year old daughter that she can start watching The Simpsons when she is in college because that's when I started watching it. I think it started my sophomore year.

 

[Mario500]

^Why did you tell your daughter when she can start watching "The Simpsons"? I first started watching it on a regular basis before I was nine years of age when I was a student of an elementary school.

 

[nathannah]

^Why did you tell your daughter when she can start watching "The Simpsons"? I first started watching it on a regular basis before I was nine years of age when I was a student of an elementary school.

Maybe because they're a concerned parent who would like to screen the media their children are watching? Also when The Simpsons started, the TV ratings system and V-chip weren't even in the view of anyone; they weren't in force for eight more years. Who knows if some of the pre-TV ratings episodes would have even been made if they had to hew to content for a certain ratings guideline?

 

[Bill_W]

Maybe because they're a concerned parent who would like to screen the media their children are watching? Also when The Simpsons started, the TV ratings system and V-chip weren't even in the view of anyone; they weren't in force for eight more years. Who knows if some of the pre-TV ratings episodes would have even been made if they had to hew to content for a certain ratings guideline?

Thank you. That's what I am. My children ask me to turn the TV on and they tell me what they are going to watch. I don't want their minds full of crap when they are young. I'll watch a PG-13 movie first on cable and decide if she or her younger brothers can watch.
Maybe if more parents did this, our children would be better off. By the way, my two oldest are straight A children in Catholic school.

 

[Mario500]

Thank you. That's what I am. My children ask me to turn the TV on and they tell me what they are going to watch. I don't want their minds full of crap when they are young. I'll watch a PG-13 movie first on cable and decide if she or her younger brothers can watch.

What did you mean by this sentence? Also, would you actually say the c-word you used in the sentence in front of your children and/or let them say it?

 

[Avid Listener]

What did you mean by this sentence? Also, would you actually say the c-word you used in the sentence in front of your children and/or let them say it?

Please. "Crap" is the euphemism one uses to avoid saying "shit". I have, I think, a reasonable sense of decorum. Frankly, I think some people display the sort of over-the-top sensitivities of an old biddy from the Victorian era. Do you go around fanning yourself with a little hand fan declaring that you have the vapors?

 

[vchimpanzee]

Maybe because they're a concerned parent who would like to screen the media their children are watching? Also when The Simpsons started, the TV ratings system and V-chip weren't even in the view of anyone; they weren't in force for eight more years. Who knows if some of the pre-TV ratings episodes would have even been made if they had to hew to content for a certain ratings guideline?

I have seen "Simpsons" episodes that had a TV-G rating in reruns. I've seen them on Fox with TV-14. However, my local station airing reruns tends to put a TV-14 in the upper right corner before every episode. I don't know why it's the upper right corner since they usually go in the upper left.

 

[Bill_W]

What did you mean by this sentence? Also, would you actually say the c-word you used in the sentence in front of your children and/or let them say it?

No. I don't say that word in front of my children. I don't curse in front of them. And I don't actually think the show is crap. I really enjoy all those shows but, I'm an adult. My children shouldn't be exposed to it at their young ages. Maybe I keep them sheltered from some of this stuff but my parents did too. (They didn't have to try as hard. TV wasn't as bad and not as many cable channels when it did come out.)