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Digital Radio: A BAD idea.

Meanwhile, analog radio in this country is dying. Consumers have stopped buying analog radios, and most manufacturers have stopped making them. Radio Shacks don't sell radios any more.

Instead, the biggest growth area for radio is digital, using the internet. Pandora, Spotify, iheartradio, and more are all examples of digital radio. You can call it a bad idea, but it's where radio is going.
 
Meanwhile, analog radio in this country is dying. Consumers have stopped buying analog radios, and most manufacturers have stopped making them. Radio Shacks don't sell radios any more.

Instead, the biggest growth area for radio is digital, using the internet. Pandora, Spotify, iheartradio, and more are all examples of digital radio. You can call it a bad idea, but it's where radio is going.



I meant over the air digital radio of course.
 
Dab is going over like a lead balloon in Europe just like iBlock is here. It's been mandated in Britain and the date has been changed at least once because no one wants it.

Digital Radio: A BAD idea.

It's going over well in Scandinavia, though. In Norway and Sweden the sales of DAB radios has increased, and Norway will yank most of the FM stations by 2017. Sweden probably by 2020. I think Denmark is planning on shutting off FM in the near future, also. Britain is having some issues but DAB listenership is still growing.

I think digital radio is a good idea, if it saves over the air radio. I can live with the negative artifacts if it saves FM (or even AM).

The problem is the younger demographics get most of their entertainment (whether audio or video) via the internet. A lot of them don't even know what a radio is.
 
Meanwhile, analog radio in this country is dying. Consumers have stopped buying analog radios, and most manufacturers have stopped making them. Radio Shacks don't sell radios any more.

Instead, the biggest growth area for radio is digital, using the internet. Pandora, Spotify, iheartradio, and more are all examples of digital radio. You can call it a bad idea, but it's where radio is going.

Radio Shack still has radios. So do the local box stores (CD AM FM boomboxes, headset radios, and clock radios). Maybe the sales are decreasing, but there are people who still buy them.

But you're right, it's not like it used to be. Most of the younger people I know don't listen to radio, unless it's in a car.
 
Radio Shack still has radios.

Mine only has one or two. They should call it Phone Shack, because that's mainly what they sell.

I'm sure someone has done a comparative study on electronic device sales. Compare the sales of phones, computers, ipads, and mp3 players to the sales of all radios.
 
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There's no market for standalone radios anymore, but that doesn't mean radios aren't still being added to households. Every car still has a radio, and clock radios on end tables are being replaced with iPod docks that sometimes have FM radios still. There's an AM/FM radio in my weather radio, and in my mp3 player. There's one in the home theater amp under the TV and one in my Bluetooth headset dongle (with RDS, even). My smartphone doesn't have a radio, but the little backup feature phone I have does (also with RDS). And that's not including the "enthusiast" radios I own as a radio geek.

So while standalone sales may have plummeted, radios are still being integrated into various things.

Meanwhile in the local market, one station's HD sub has just changed formats to a competitive format and the pubcaster has just added even more power to their HD multicast. So while no one's really listening, at least they're doing something
 
I would like to see more "Internet Radios" in the stores. The Logitech Squeezebox and other radio 'appliances' are great for not having to fire up a computer just for your music, but works much like a good old tabletop radio with presets. Set one up in the house for the XYL as a rimshot FM wouldn't come-in on a poorly made tuner, so have a preset with a Grace Internet radio, and she doesn't know the difference.
 
So while standalone sales may have plummeted, radios are still being integrated into various things.

Except phones. And not because customers don't want phone/radios, but because cell phone manufacturers refuse to allow FM chips to be activated. They'd rather give customers free streaming than activate an FM chip. Obviously something wrong here.
 
Does any cellphone provider have the FM chip 'switched-on'? Streaming, even IF it was free, will all be toast after the towers become overloaded in an emergency or extended power loss.
 
Consumer Cellular uses AT&T cell towers.
That really has nothing to do with the FM receivers which are built into their phones.
 
Except phones. And not because customers don't want phone/radios, but because cell phone manufacturers refuse to allow FM chips to be activated. They'd rather give customers free streaming than activate an FM chip. Obviously something wrong here.

Only T-mobile offers free streaming audio so far. The rest don't want FM chips because they make money on data plans. It's all about protecting the revenue model.
 
Only T-mobile offers free streaming audio so far. The rest don't want FM chips because they make money on data plans. It's all about protecting the revenue model.

Telecom companies don't manufacture cell phones. Phone manufacturers don't make money on data plans. They're the ones who refuse to allow FM chips.
 
Telecom companies don't manufacture cell phones. Phone manufacturers don't make money on data plans. They're the ones who refuse to allow FM chips.

Yes but the carriers have some sway as to what technology the phones include. For example, historically Verizon had been known to require a crippled Bluetooth stack in feature phones to protect their revenue stream from paid ringtones and wallpapers. The full Bluetooth stack included OBEX file transfers which meant people could add their one mp3s and wallpapers, bypassing the carrier's store. And remember at least a few of these smartphones DO have FM chips, they're just turned off. Sprint recently made the news for announcing software updates that would active FM radios in a selected number of their smartphones.

Rumors are strong that even the venerable iPhone has an unactivated FM chip lying dormant in it. If Apple chose to enable that, they could, but it might cut into their iTunes revenue. And the carriers might see less streaming use in urban areas.
 
They call that collusion.

It's not like they're negotiating to leave off FM chips in some darkened back room underneath a casino somewhere. I'm positive that the phone companies meet with the hardware makers and say, if you want your phones sold on our network, we'll pay you X per phone and we want X features added/disabled. This is visible to the consumer as bloatware. That stuff doesn't get installed at your local store after delivery, it's baked into the ROM and can't be removed without a root-n-flash. If they dictate including apps that aren't stock, you know they must be doing that with hardware as well.

A perfect example of this is the original Galaxy S by Samsung. Although it eventually spawned no less than 10 models in the North American market alone, the original core batch consisted of four different models. Four different models for eight carriers running just two different technologies. If the carriers had no sway in hardware design, there would have been just two models: The GSM model for AT&T, T-Mobile (and later, Wind); and the CDMA version for Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular and Cellular South (now C Spire).

Instead, we got four unique hardware models. The Captivate was customized for AT&T and Rogers. T-Mobile got a unique version called the Vibrant. Sprint got their own model as the Epic 4G and then Verizon, Cellular South and US Cellular got identical hardware for their Fascinate, Showcase and Mesmerize, respectively.

Guess what — NONE of them match the global original Galaxy S in specs. The original world-spec phone had an FM chip with RDS and a front facing 0.3 MP camera. Both features were deleted for all the US carriers, even though Samsung put out a "global for the Americas" variant called the GT-9000T with those features left in, but it could only be bought unlocked at full price.

T-Mobile is the only one who wanted a front-facing camera and theirs was an upgrade to 1.3 MP (this later showed up on the Galaxy S Infuse on AT&T and Rogers, along with a faster processor and bigger screen.)

The CDMA carriers dictated a different change. Their models had an LED flash for the camera, whereas the others didn't. (Verizon, notably, replaced the default Android search through Google with Bing, which was met with some derision.)

The FM chip deletion was physical in the US bound phones but as I understand it the Canadian phones actually left the chip in and they just weren't turned on; they could be activated with a simple app store download that turned them on, no rooting necessary.

So yes, the phone makers do dictate what hardware goes where, and if that's collusion no one's doing anything about it. It obviously goes beyond the usual band/technology variations that are necessary for each carrier around the world, too.
 
yes, I used to be able to make my own ringtones for different family members, but Verizon made sure that I could only buy ringtones from them. Also would be nice if you could make your own for incoming messages as well, as I would like the EAS burp as ringtone when I get weather alert messages, but that isn't possible with the Galaxy on Verizon, as far as I can tell.
 
I think its your phone and not Verizon. the web is full of descriptions on how to get sound clips into itunes and on an iPhone. I got original star trek, star wars, x-files, outer limits, twilight zone, x-files - every sci-fi geek wants to know where I got them.
 
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