"COUNTRY MEMORIES", Sundays on WJIB-740 ???

[WLYNWAZNgm]

Neither WLYN or WAZN encodes our signals. We have no plans to ever do so.
Our programming is strictly to a niche audience. If you speak either Russian,
or Brazilian Portuguese, you know all about us already...

 

[davideduardo]

Neither WLYN or WAZN encodes our signals. We have no plans to ever do so.
Our programming is strictly to a niche audience. If you speak either Russian,
or Brazilian Portuguese, you know all about us already...

Again, this is a disservice to radio as it reduces the apparent listening to radio...an important thing to keeping the industry healthy.

 

[Deleted User]

Encoders are free to all stations that are home to a market, they require minimum effort to install and have no downside.

the downside is if you are a WJIB and ASCAP/BMI uses the data to increase your music licensing fees through the roof.

If you are a station that sells itself by saying they have X amount of potential listeners, and no desire to sell itself to a single P1, something a WUNR or other leased time or brokered arrangement does by making the purchaser attract their audience, ratings mean nothing.

The Arbitron/Nielsen folks know the population of a given market and can probably estimate with reasonable certainty the percentage of the population that listen to the radio and for how long and how many times a week without every station in the market encoding.

It is only a matter of time before Boston falls out of the top 10 markets due to the population shifting south and southwest, If it wasn't for them expanding the DMA Boston would have fallen out of the top 10 long ago in my uninformed opinion.

After LA, people are giving ratings data a whole new look... a couple of households were able to corrupt the data for a market much larger than Boston... what does that say about sample size and R factors?

Anyone remember Providence a few years ago and the wife of a local host getting a bunch of diaries?

Hell I have filled them out.. when I was not working in the business.... I was not totally honest, but then again I have been elected to public office more than once ......

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics someone once said. The sales weasels are going to take any data and twist it to their own purposes.... and if that wasn't the case there would only be 6+ data, not data created to prove that blind,deaf transvestites with one arm ,3 legs, hispanic surnames and are vegetarians are most likely to listen to Suzie Creamcheese in the morning on WTF radio 96.4 than any other station

 

[Fenway1912]

Live 365 has a "Professional" package that on-air stations can take advantage of. The rates are higher than that of the independent broadcasters, but it certainly would be a viable option for WJIB and WJTO as well.

Well worth checking into, since ratings aren't an issue, but nighttime reception is!

How expensive can Tune In be if the LPFM in Rochester, NH that is now WMEX-LP is doing it?

 

[raccoonradio]

Not sure if this is new or not but a facebook group about college & indie
radio mentioned WZBC has a 4 hr block of classic country Sun
at 10 am so Bob may not be only one to jump to fill
the country oldies void...

 

[Jimmy128]

Thanks for the info on WZBC. 10:00am-2:00 pm Sun.

 

[davideduardo]

the downside is if you are a WJIB and ASCAP/BMI uses the data to increase your music licensing fees through the roof.

Music stations (i.e. those not using a "per performance" license) per the 2012 BMI and ASCAP agreements with the RMLC pay a percentage of revenue.

If you are a station that sells itself by saying they have X amount of potential listeners, and no desire to sell itself to a single P1, something a WUNR or other leased time or brokered arrangement does by making the purchaser attract their audience, ratings mean nothing.

I'm not sure what that means... but my point is that any unencoded station subtracts real listening from market totals, adding to the "radio is declining" argument unnecessarily.

The Arbitron/Nielsen folks know the population of a given market and can probably estimate with reasonable certainty the percentage of the population that listen to the radio and for how long and how many times a week without every station in the market encoding.

Arbitron no longer exists. And there is no guessing as to non-detected listening in the PPM markets. Either the meters detect it or they don't. And if any metered listeners are tuned to stations that are not encoded, that listening is lost to the market totals.

It is only a matter of time before Boston falls out of the top 10 markets due to the population shifting south and southwest, If it wasn't for them expanding the DMA Boston would have fallen out of the top 10 long ago in my uninformed opinion.

The DMA is not used for the determination of radio market rank; it is the Nielsen defined Metro Survey Area. The DMA is a TV market definiton, based to a great extent on cable coverage extension.

After LA, people are giving ratings data a whole new look... a couple of households were able to corrupt the data for a market much larger than Boston... what does that say about sample size and R factors?

And, together, the MRC and Nielsen are providing enhanced monitoring controls. "People" is a vague term. Buyers of advertising have no other metric and will continue to use ratings.

Anyone remember Providence a few years ago and the wife of a local host getting a bunch of diaries?

Over the years, there have been dozens of such "revelations" and they have been handled to everyone's satisfaction.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics someone once said. The sales weasels are going to take any data and twist it to their own purposes.... and if that wasn't the case there would only be 6+ data, not data created to prove that blind,deaf transvestites with one arm ,3 legs, hispanic surnames and are vegetarians are most likely to listen to Suzie Creamcheese in the morning on WTF radio 96.4 than any other station

The reason why ratings exist and the reason why there are breaks by age, gender, ethnicity, geography, income, education and such is that advertisers want to match the stations they promote on to the kind of consumer who is most likely to use their offerings. 12+ or 6+ is useless, which is why Nielsen gives the data away for free.

 

[raccoonradio]

A facebook group with about 55 members so far hopes to restore country oldies to WKLB; not sure if it'll work (most don't, other than the Bring Back Steve Leveille
one) and Burns and Fink have a site which promises streaming country oldies soon

http://www.michaelburnsandstufink.com/

 

[raccoonradio]

(sorry dupe post)

 

[Eli Polonsky]

How expensive can Tune In be if the LPFM in Rochester, NH that is now WMEX-LP is doing it?

An LP station is, by FCC definition, a non-profit organization . WJIB, though Bob chooses not to air commercials, has a commercial license, and is not technically a non-profit organization. Whether streaming by TuneIn or by any other means, there is a huge difference in streaming music licensing fees incurred to a (technically) for-profit organization like WJIB, and a non-profit such as an LPFM.

 

[Unregistered]

Where did the country memories show go?

I tuned in this AM 03-08-15. No country to be heard. Bring it back! Please?

 

[raccoonradio]

He said on facebook an emergency came up.
(Friends And Lovers of WJIB):
>I had an emergency this morning at 7:30 AM EDT, and had to leave the station. Back at 11:45 AM and Crooners/Bands are now running on schedule. Country Memories will be back next week at its regular time. Sunday morning programs started at 7 AM ("Issues Today") and that one DID get aired, but the 7:30 AM one didn't get aired, nor did the church program, nor Country Memories.