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TTalkradio1 said:
Public radio was never big, and Gary Null has called it out for its racist rhetoric.
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Never big? Their audience goal was always quality, not quantity but today they have both. Check all the markets in which public radio's audience numbers exceed right-wing talk.

Gary Null (aka Gary Null and Void) is appropriately named. You are quoting somebody who pitches quack cures for a living? Hey, I've got this bridge that runs between New York and Brooklyn that I could sell you.
 
Bhahahah the well-respected Gary Null, the dude who's own crappy and dangerous supplements landed him in the hospital. And yet, he keeps on selling....

Public radio's not that big though, there are only over a thousand NPR affiliates, and that doesn't count the thousands of other non-commercial stations out there who aren't NPR members.
 
In New York, WNYC is bigger than either WOR or WABC. A public radio news-talk station is the number one news-talk station in many major markets.

Do your homework, Dude. NPR does not have "affiliates," it has members - currently approximately 900 members. There 1014 stations that qualify for CPB funding.
 
FredLeonard said:
A one hour show that runs on weekends. You wing-nuts are so obsessed with hatred for public radio, you use anything to take shots at it. Right-wing talk is for angry, ignorant, hate-filled stupid people. Stupid people hate smart people. Always have. But the geezers who listen to Rush are too old and decrepit to beat up smart kids at recess, so they take cheap shots at public radio on message boards.

How "intelligent" are people who keep worshiping a dead, previously demented, modestly successful B movie actor who did nothing but read the lines given him by his super-rich OC backers.
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I think I detect a tinge of anger and hatred in that post but it could be my imagination.

True, Car Talk is only a one hour show once a week, but couldn't NPR use that hour more wisely? NPR's mission once was to rise above crass commercialism and present timely, meaningful, innovative programming.

Let's face it, Car Talk is still there, not because it educates and uplifts, but because it raises tons of money.

And, BTW, the level of intelligence of Rush listeners has nothing to do with the level of intelligence of NPR listeners. I question both. I believe there's much smarter programming elsewhere.
 
"Car Talk" was produced by WBUR in Boston. NPR did/does distribute it. Stations decide to carry the show (or not carry it).

Let me get this straight. You are objecting to public radio stations airing a show many people like and which "raises tons of money?" Do you also object to stations airing Rush, Hannity, Beck, Savage et al for the same reasons? Do I detect a double standard?

I have read the public broadcasting act and I didn't see "rise above crass commercialism and present timely, meaningful, innovative programming." Again, given some of your other posts, I thought you approved of "commercialism" (crass or otherwise). Public radio was intended to provide programming not offered by commercial broadcasters, which they do. And whether you personally like it or not, their programming is arguably timely, meaningful and innovative. Commercial broadcasters have abandoned in-depth news and serious talk, which is the backbone of public radio programming. Likewise they have abandoned classical and jazz formats.

Apparently you think the public radio menu must be all vegetables and no desert.

I'd be curious where you find this "smarter programming."
 
FredLeonard said:
In New York, WNYC is bigger than either WOR or WABC. A public radio news-talk station is the number one news-talk station in many major markets.

Do your homework, Dude. NPR does not have "affiliates," it has members - currently approximately 900 members. There 1014 stations that qualify for CPB funding.
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Conservative talk radio isn't doing well right now. It will increase ratings in the future. Over the past few decades, AM political talk has done better.

As far as Gary Null, he was on WNYC, and his now on WBAI again. He's trusted in alternative health.
 
FredLeonard said:
"Car Talk" was produced by WBUR in Boston. NPR did/does distribute it. Stations decide to carry the show (or not carry it).

Let me get this straight. You are objecting to public radio stations airing a show many people like and which "raises tons of money?" Do you also object to stations airing Rush, Hannity, Beck, Savage et al for the same reasons? Do I detect a double standard?

I have read the public broadcasting act and I didn't see "rise above crass commercialism and present timely, meaningful, innovative programming." Again, given some of your other posts, I thought you approved of "commercialism" (crass or otherwise). Public radio was intended to provide programming not offered by commercial broadcasters, which they do. And whether you personally like it or not, their programming is arguably timely, meaningful and innovative. Commercial broadcasters have abandoned in-depth news and serious talk, which is the backbone of public radio programming. Likewise they have abandoned classical and jazz formats.

Apparently you think the public radio menu must be all vegetables and no desert.

I'd be curious where you find this "smarter programming."
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There's no pretense about the commercialism on commercial radio.

"Smarter programming?" -- Bloomberg radio.

Fred, you and I had a civil conversation over on the talk radio board. I don't know what set you off here.

I'm not defending Rush, Hannity, Beck, etc. -- I don't like them or listen to them. I do listen to Savage because his show isn't the same cookie-cutter presentation as the others. Perhaps you've heard him say some things that anger you -- so have I. But apparently you've allowed it to blind you to what's good about the show. That's you're loss.
 
TTalkradio1 said:
Conservative talk radio isn't doing well right now. It will increase ratings in the future.
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No, it won't. If you had followed the age demo trends along with listener profile it would have been apparent by the late-nineties how this thing will end.

It is really no different than any other business model. If your business fails to regenerate new clientele it can coast for a while, but eventually nature will kill your customers and put you out of business.

Chan/NYC
 
FredLeonard said:
Do your homework, Dude. NPR does not have "affiliates," it has members - currently approximately 900 members. There 1014 stations that qualify for CPB funding.
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1) Calm down.

2) You'll notice I used affiliate and member in my post. I meant member, but they're essentially interchangeable terms. There are 987 NPR member stations today, so I'm not that far off. There are 1,041 stations that qualify for CPB funding, I think you transposed your numbers.
 
Not exactly interchangeable. The network owns its O&Os. Affiliates have a contract to carry network programs.

NPR's members, in effect, own the network.

All "member stations" on AM and from 92.1 to 107.9 do not have noncommercial licenses.
 
FredLeonard said:
All "member stations" on AM and from 92.1 to 107.9 do not have noncommercial licenses.
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Are you sure about that. There are AM stations and FM stations in the 92.1 to 107.9 range that are licensed non-commercial. (A couple of AMs I could think of very quickly are licensed as State Government rather than Non-Commercial. (WHA and WBAA). I know there are non-comms in the 92.1 to 107.9. Are you saying that if they are NPR member stations then they can't be licensed NON-COMMERCIAL?
 
WHA is licensed to The Board of Regents, University of Wisconsin.
WBAA is licensed to Purdue University.
In the USA, there are no non-commercial AM frequencies.
All FM frequencies above 91.9 are licensed as commercial. Some owners of stations between 92.1 and 107.9 have chosen to operate their stations as non-commercial.
 
Check out WAMC.... Albany NY. AM station. Carries NPR. Is licensed as non-commercial.

In the past there have been non-commercial licenses granted in the 92.1 - 107.9 frequency range. More likely to be religious broadcasting that NPR. My memory is that you could get a grant as a non-commercial with the interference rules being a bit relaxed.

Since some of the non-comm FMs in that frequency range had been originally approved as non-comms, it was always a problem when an educational institution wanted to sell to a commercial operator. Never involved in one so I don't remember all the issues.

Years ago Butler University, Indianapolis (NOT a state school) had an FM station (WAJC). I think they sold it for big bucks to a commercial operator.

Also there was a classical station, non-comm WAIV (but not NPR... heck... this transaction took place before there was an NPR!) that was sold to a commercial operation.
 
Goat Rodeo Cowboy said:
In the past there have been non-commercial licenses granted in the 92.1 - 107.9 frequency range. More likely to be religious broadcasting that NPR. My memory is that you could get a grant as a non-commercial with the interference rules being a bit relaxed.
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That's exactly true. We saw that when Harold Camping started to sell of his Family Radio stations. They were all non-commercial licenses and had to be converted before they were sold. It's also the situation with WBAI in New York. In fact, they're looking to move their transmitter, and one of the issues is their grandfathered interference benefits. It's possible that these stations all pre-date the FCC's allocation of the lower spectrum for strictly NCE.
 
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Goat Rodeo Cowboy said:
Since some of the non-comm FMs in that frequency range had been originally approved as non-comms, it was always a problem when an educational institution wanted to sell to a commercial operator. Never involved in one so I don't remember all the issues.
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It appears to be relatively simple to convert a non-com in the commercial segment of the band "back to" commercial. Look at what Cumulus did with what is now WNSH in New York... the change was immediately granted. And Merlin did the same with the Camden FM that it bought from Family Stations. Or the Family Stations sale in the DC-Baltimore area of what is now WLZL to CBS. Or Family's swap of its San Francisco commercial band FM for a CBS AM in the market.
 
frankberry said:
I've looked at the FCC website. Information about the WAMC license is not available.
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http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/a...&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&size=9

"Licensee: WAMC

1400 kHz Licensed
Domestic Station Class: C Region 2 Station Class (corresponds to W. Hemisphere): C
Coordination Status: Canada: - Mexico: - Region 2: -
File No: BML-20030401CJO Facility ID No.: 4683
CDBS Application ID No.: 657073

WAMC operates as a noncommercial educational station"

 
This is a good lesson for everyone that has a Radio Station down to the Smallest Markets. You can't put all your attention into Mon-Fri and Run Infomercials and Inferior Programming on Weekends. THIS in my opinion is the deal. Sat & Sun can't SUCK.
 
JPlainJohn said:
You can't put all your attention into Mon-Fri and Run Infomercials and Inferior Programming on Weekends. THIS in my opinion is the deal.
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I think the problem with WABC, and lots of people have said this, is that they haven't put any attention into Mon-Fri.
 
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