I still maintain that the current management feels the piecemeal approach will get them more money.
Another big issue here will be taxes. There is a lot of cap gain to deal with here.
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Why China's Richest Man Could Buy Time Warner
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I still maintain that the current management feels the piecemeal approach will get them more money.
Another big issue here will be taxes. There is a lot of cap gain to deal with here.
I still maintain that the current management feels the piecemeal approach will get them more money.
Another big issue here will be taxes. There is a lot of cap gain to deal with here.
Yep I agree, also regardless if he ever becomes a citizen of the u.s. Or not, I doubt that the government will allow him to own Time Warner, because if he does, then all of that money that comes from TW goes to China, I'm sure the government don't want that so they'll say no, as far as other suitors that THR named off, I think the only one that I think is the most likely one to get Time Warner would be Disney, because Time Warner, I don't think they'll merge with Google, because if they do, the same mistake that happened when AOL and Time Warner merged in 2000, will repeat itself if that happens, also another one where it's a maybe is Apple, but if I had to pick 1 more to eliminate that would be Apple, and the reason why I say a Disney-Time Warner merger is more likely than a Jianlin takeover of Time Warner, is because of 4 thingsthat are too compelling to ignore 1. Marvel, and DC Comics would be combined into 1 entity. 2. CNN would be part of ABC News, gives ABC the ability to compete with NBC, and Fox in the cable tv news world. 3. Sports programming, I'd say all of the Turner's sports operations will be transferred to ABC, and end up being merged with ESPN on ABC, and become ABC Sports, as far as where Turner's Sports rights goes to, I'd say some of the leagues that Turner has rights to (such as Major League Baseball, and The NCAA Men's basketball tournament) may keep the Turner Sports brand alive, but as an in-name only. And 4. Money, Disney's cap space for money wise is about $150 Billion, compared to Time Warner's $63 Billion in cap space, so that gives Disney CEO Bob Iger, more leverage.
I doubt that the government will allow him to own Time Warner, because if he does, then all of that money that comes from TW goes to China,
Even if they reincorporate as a US company?
One other issue is copyright. Time Warner holds a lot of copyrights. Given our problem with China and copyright, do we really want all those classic WB movies going to China? Of course, no one objected when all the foreign companies bought US record labels. Bob Dylan's catalogue is Japanese property. Hank Williams belongs to France.
Even if they reincorporate as a US company?
One other issue is copyright. Time Warner holds a lot of copyrights. Given our problem with China and copyright, do we really want all those classic WB movies going to China? Of course, no one objected when all the foreign companies bought US record labels. Bob Dylan's catalogue is Japanese property. Hank Williams belongs to France.
Even if they do move to the u.s. The government will still say no, they don't want all of Jianlin's profits from Time Warner going to China. On top of that, the relationship between China, and The U.S. Isn't very good, and about the problems between China and copyright, I don't think we really want any of the Classic Warner Bros. Movies going yo chins, because if they o, that's taking the profits with them.
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Even if they do move to the u.s. The government will still say no, they don't want all of Jianlin's profits from Time Warner going to China. On top of that, the relationship between China, and The U.S. Isn't very good, and about the problems between China and copyright, I don't think we really want any of the Classic Warner Bros. Movies going yo chins, because if they o, that's taking the profits with them.
"The Government" consists of people who make decisions. Those decision makers can be bribed. Don't think for a minute that the bureaucrats in Washington, DC can't be bought. They're no different from Congressmen and Senators who are for sale to the highest bidder.
What I mean by "The Government" I'm referring to The FCC, The Department of Justice, and other antitrust regulators. that look at all of the mergers."The Government" consists of people who make decisions. Those decision makers can be bribed. Don't think for a minute that the bureaucrats in Washington, DC can't be bought. They're no different from Congressmen and Senators who are for sale to the highest bidder.
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What I mean by "The Government" I'm referring to The FCC, The Department of Justice, and other antitrust regulators. that look at all of the mergers.
Right. Those are the people that are influenced by either direct bribes, or bribes to politicians to put pressure on the bureaucrats. Those people you mentioned are no different from IRS managers whose hard drives mysteriously turn blank.
Right. Those are the people that are influenced by either direct bribes, or bribes to politicians to put pressure on the bureaucrats. Those people you mentioned are no different from IRS managers whose hard drives mysteriously turn blank.
Right and basically the FCC decides where to let media giants merge (along with The DOJ), and also The DOJ, makes the decision to let the merger be approved, but if there's antitrust concerns within the merger, they can say no.
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Right and basically the FCC decides where to let media giants merge (along with The DOJ), and also The DOJ, makes the decision to let the merger be approved, but if there's antitrust concerns within the merger, they can say no.
They can say "No". They can say "Yes". They can say "Maybe, we'll think about and get back to you". What they won't say for public consumption is the truth, "You want our decision to be what you want it to be? How much do you want it? Care to put your money where your mouth is?".
They can say "No". They can say "Yes". They can say "Maybe, we'll think about and get back to you". What they won't say for public consumption is the truth, "You want our decision to be what you want it to be? How much do you want it? Care to put your money where your mouth is?".
Yeah that's true
I read an article from a website that's talking about the same rumor (Jianlin, buying Time Warner) I'd say, he ends up buying Time Warner for $110 Billion, and constructs his headquarters for not only Warner Bros. But also headquarters for either ABC's or CBS' entertainment division. Since how he likes making bold moves, buying The ABC network, could be one of those bold moves that he makes, because he wants to make Time Warner the biggest media giant, it's already a media giant, but what I mean by the biggest media giant, by making it bigger than where it's at right now, and the only way how you do that is by buying one of the big 4 TV networks, and the only option maybe The ABC Network, because Comcast, and The Roberts Family, isn't going to cut NBC loose, neither is The Redstone family, as long as Summer Redstone lives, and especially The Murdoch family, there would be absolutely be no way that they're going to cut Fox loose, so I'd say he ends up either buying ABC, or CBS (after Summer Redstone dies). He says that he's going to buy 1-2 media companies, and the 1st one would be Time Warner, and the second one would be in the form of one of the "big four" broadcast tv networks. That's my take on this.
Ownership rules based on citizenship seem like a relic of the mid 20th Century. If my CPA came to me tomorrow and told me it would make economic sense to change citizenship, my first question would be: How much is it worth? My friend are from all over the world. The United States is a pretty good place but it's not the only good place.Yep, and if wants to buy Time Warner, he would have to lose his Chinese citizenship, just like what Murdoch did, he had to lose his Australian Citizenship, in order for him to own WBRC in Birmingham during the period of Affiliation switches (1994-1997).
Yes that's trueOwnership rules based on citizenship seem like a relic of the mid 20th Century. If my CPA came to me tomorrow and told me it would make economic sense to change citizenship, my first question would be: How much is it worth? My friend are from all over the world. The United States is a pretty good place but it's not the only good place.
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It's not about foreigners making profits and collecting dividends. It's about foreigners controlling what the public is able to see and hear and being able to influence elections and shape the political process. Based on Rupert Murdoch, this is a legitimate concern.
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Of course, not personally owning any media outlets in the US hasn't stopped George Soros from buying the Presidency. So, if limiting the ownership of US media to citizens is supposed to prevent foreigners from taking over things, it isn't working, is it?
So, if limiting the ownership of US media to citizens is supposed to prevent foreigners from taking over things, it isn't working, is it?
Nope it's not working, they can do everything they can but that's not how it works, take Rupert Murdoch for an example he was t born in The U.S. (He was born in Australia) he came to the U.S, bought 20th Century Fox, then bought the then-Independent, and former DuMint TV Network affiliates, then it became the nucleus of The Fox Broadcasting Company, same thing will happen. I see Jinalin buying Time Warner, then once the sale is closed he'll go after another media giant in Discovery Communications, then he'll go after a broadcast TV Network, in ABC or CBS depends on what happens to Summer Redstone.
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Nope it's not working, they can do everything they can but that's not how it works, take Rupert Murdoch for an example he was t born in The U.S. (He was born in Australia) he came to the U.S, bought 20th Century Fox, then bought the then-Independent, and former DuMint TV Network affiliates, then it became the nucleus of The Fox Broadcasting Company, same thing will happen. I see Jinalin buying Time Warner, then once the sale is closed he'll go after another media giant in Discovery Communications, then he'll go after a broadcast TV Network, in ABC or CBS depends on what happens to Summer Redstone.
We have a President who wasn't born in the US. Big deal!
We have a President who wasn't born in the US. Big deal!
Exactly that's another example right there, and to me it's not a big deal, because if some of those guys like Murdoch who can be a successful media mogul here in the states, so can Jinalin.
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Exactly that's another example right there, and to me it's not a big deal, because if some of those guys like Murdoch who can be a successful media mogul here in the states, so can Jinalin.
The point is, despite the fact that there's a law (the Constitution, specifically, the ultimate Law of the Land) that says the President must be a "natural born" citizen but nothing is being done about the fact that the George Soros-owned President is in office, and those who support the job he's doing refuse to believe anything that would stand in the way of Obama carrying out whatever plans he's trying to carry out demonstrates how really meaningless laws actually are. If "China's Richest Man" wants to buy Time-Warner, or anything else for that matter, a few pesky little laws aren't going to stand in his way.
It's no wonder most people would rather spend their time and attention compiling lists of Cursed Cable System. There's no controversy. There's nothing to make anyone feel anything about how things are degenerating. It's just mindlessly passing the time. I suspect that's what most people want to do when confronted with any sort of unpleasant truth.
The point is, despite the fact that there's a law (the Constitution, specifically, the ultimate Law of the Land) that says the President must be a "natural born" citizen but nothing is being done about the fact that the George Soros-owned President is in office, and those who support the job he's doing refuse to believe anything that would stand in the way of Obama carrying out whatever plans he's trying to carry out demonstrates how really meaningless laws actually are. If "China's Richest Man" wants to buy Time-Warner, or anything else for that matter, a few pesky little laws aren't going to stand in his way.
It's no wonder most people would rather spend their time and attention compiling lists of Cursed Cable System. There's no controversy. There's nothing to make anyone feel anything about how things are degenerating. It's just mindlessly passing the time. I suspect that's what most people want to do when confronted with any sort of unpleasant truth.
Very well said, I agree with you 100% it's just a matter of time before Jianlin buys Time Warner.
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