kyw to fm on the first

[DG02816]

Sports is big in this town I'd much rather sports talk than the swill that's political talk.

 

[Kent]

I have never hear web latency take that long, even internationally. But I guess it depends on your ISP and the latency of the system.

I've noticed latency about that long if I take my phone from the house to the car, and it goes from WiFi to the cellular network. The handoff usually isn't 100% seamless, though it's better than when I go from the car back to the house. TuneIn seems to have more trouble with the handoff than most of the other apps, though it at least makes the handoff. RadioPup almost always gives me an error and makes me hit "Play" again when going from WiFi to cellular.

In the dialup days, latency could be really bad, especially when stations went through third party providers. I once had a delay of almost 20 minutes when listening to KPLX over the former AudioNet. It seems like those days are pretty much gone, though, with better technology on all sides.

 

[Unregistered]

Kyw is coming to 96.5 January 1st wired isn't staying CBS has no intention of keeping this format

 

[AMRocks]

Getting back on the topic of the subject, I was always surprised that CBS didn't switch KYW to the 1200 signal, putting the talk station on the 1060, more inferior, signal. (Other than the fact that the KYW jingle would not sound nearly as good as "KYW...newradio...12-ten")

 

[FredLeonard]

Inferior signal depends on where you are. In Bucks, 1060 is inferior. In Chester, 1210 has some big holes.

We have already passed "the first" and KYW is not on FM. Anonymous was blowing smoke. I guess he's back putting lugnuts on Chevys.

 

[Unregistered]

1210 is an inferior signal in much of both Chester and Delaware Counties. I have to chuckle when people overlook this (or perhaps don't realize this), and then attribute great value to the skywave signal.

Whereas New York may still need the big AMs to provide full market coverage (though I'm not personally attesting to it), Philadelphia doesn't have an AM that effectively covers its entire market.

 

[Jul]

Getting back on the topic of the subject, I was always surprised that CBS didn't switch KYW to the 1200 signal, putting the talk station on the 1060, more inferior, signal. (Other than the fact that the KYW jingle would not sound nearly as good as "KYW...newradio...12-ten")

I would be in favor of KYW moving to 1210 AM.

 

[semoochie]

Inferior signal depends on where you are. In Bucks, 1060 is inferior. In Chester, 1210 has some big holes.

We have already passed "the first" and KYW is not on FM. Anonymous was blowing smoke. I guess he's back putting lugnuts on Chevys.

If 50KW non-directional on 1210 has holes in its market coverage, then AM is in even worse shape than I thought. Not only can't most stations compete but only about half the dial is usable and most of that, only at high power!

 

[davideduardo]

If 50KW non-directional on 1210 has holes in its market coverage, then AM is in even worse shape than I thought. Not only can't most stations compete but only about half the dial is usable and most of that, only at high power!

In an area of moderately good (or moderately bad, if you look at it that way) ground conductivity, 1210 with 50 kw is going to be a tad less efficient in covering the market than the former WIP on 610. The Metro Survey Area is 8 counties, so the highest frequency former Class A-1 is going to be a little challenged with today's noise levels.

 

[Unregistered]

It isn't just the far western suburbs where 1210 has problems, it is also in some of the nearer western suburbs like Radnor and Newtown Square.

 

[Lightingnut]

Could KYW simulcast on 1210 and cover all their holes in the 1060 signal?

 

[FredLeonard]

Could KYW simulcast on 1210 and cover all their holes in the 1060 signal?

Of course they could, but should and would is another matter. Two AM signals with "holes" is not much of a solution. WTOP tried that and now they are on three FM signals.

The question is: Does it make more sense to stand pat with the current stations or to jettison Wired and move KYW to FM. If CBS was determined to have KYW stay on AM, the better way to "plug holes" would have been to keep 610 and let Beasley have 1210.

 

[AMRocks]

I always thought they should have simulcast morning drive on both 1060 and 1210. It could boost 1060's cume in peak time. Plus, 1210 doesn't have much to offer in the morning.

 

[FredLeonard]

I always thought they should have simulcast morning drive on both 1060 and 1210. It could boost 1060's cume in peak time. Plus, 1210 doesn't have much to offer in the morning.

I doubt a simulcast would boost cume. There's hardly anyone in the market who can't receive both stations. It might actually reduce the cume for spots sold in a package deal. Now, if CBS were to use KYW resources and put a CBS format newsblock on 1210 and a Group W format newsblock on 1060, you might have something. It works pretty well in New York (although before David says so, not so well in LA or Chicago). And even a long-form newsmagazine, a local version of Morning Edition, might also play well on 1210. But a simulcast, no way.

 

[Unregistered]

In the long run the best way to get some kind of return on 1210 might be to find a brokered-time or religious broadcaster who values the skywave signal. Given Family Radio's impending purchase of WQEW, perhaps they would consider 1210 a superior situation to 950. There's speculation about the value of the 1210 skywave signal to the Phillies, but it's not clear if that's both true and enough reason for CBS to hold on to it.

 

[Bill_W]

It isn't just the far western suburbs where 1210 has problems, it is also in some of the nearer western suburbs like Radnor and Newtown Square.

And wasn't 1210's transmitter in Newtown Square before they moved to their current location?

 

[Unregistered]

I doubt a simulcast would boost cume. There's hardly anyone in the market who can't receive both stations. It might actually reduce the cume for spots sold in a package deal. Now, if CBS were to use KYW resources and put a CBS format newsblock on 1210 and a Group W format newsblock on 1060, you might have something. It works pretty well in New York (although before David says so, not so well in LA or Chicago). And even a long-form newsmagazine, a local version of Morning Edition, might also play well on 1210. But a simulcast, no way.

They actually could start their own mini-network, taking KYW for a few minutes at the top of the hour on 1210, then directing people to 1060 if they want to hear news.

 

[Jul]

KYW on 96.5 and 1210 AM would be a huge thing for them, if it happens. I hope the format will get a makeover, if it happens.

 

[FredLeonard]

KYW on 96.5 and 1210 AM would be a huge thing for them, if it happens. I hope the format will get a makeover, if it happens.

KYW on two AM stations and one FM? How is that going to get any additional people to listen? Or to get those who already listen to listen more?

 

[davideduardo]

It works pretty well in New York (although before David says so, not so well in LA or Chicago).

CBS does not have two all news stations in either Chicago or LA.