Deep Mexico strikes again! 12/10/14

[crainbebo]

Two new logs tonight, 12/10, one good, and one really good.

930 - KHJ Los Angeles, CA; heard with Immaculate Heart Radio mention in phase null of KYAK-Yakima at 2000 PT 12/10. Semi-Au condx prevail as solar storms pass the earth. NEW #666, 5KW and 871 miles away. Been wanting this for years and finally got an ID. Wish I could have heard them during the "Boss Radio" heyday in the late 1960s and early 1970s. I think the statistics were around 50% teenagers that listened to KHJ at that time. I'm sure the Boss Radio days rivaled "Musicradio 77" in New York as one of the best Top 40s in America.

the big one...
1130 - XETOL Ixtlahuaca, Mexico Province, MEX; heard with "Lobo" ID at 2120 PT 12/10 and mixing with CKWX over the past hour. Some sources say "La Comadre" but some sources say "Radio Lobo" as their slogan. So I will count this one! NEW #667, 10KW, 2,249 miles! Another DEEP Mexico log! Ixtlahuaca is not that far from Mexico City, probably 30 miles NW. Heard with 3 foot loop obviously. Would probably never be heard if I lived in the Seattle metro.
XEWK-1190 in Guadalajara and XEW-900 Mexico City also noted as well. This is the night for deep Mexico it seems!

-crainbebo

 

[davideduardo]

Two new logs tonight, 12/10, one good, and one really good.

930 - KHJ Los Angeles, CA; heard with Immaculate Heart Radio mention in phase null of KYAK-Yakima at 2000 PT 12/10. Semi-Au condx prevail as solar storms pass the earth. NEW #666, 5KW and 871 miles away. Been wanting this for years and finally got an ID. Wish I could have heard them during the "Boss Radio" heyday in the late 1960s and early 1970s. I think the statistics were around 50% teenagers that listened to KHJ at that time. I'm sure the Boss Radio days rivaled "Musicradio 77" in New York as one of the best Top 40s in America.

the big one...
1130 - XETOL Ixtlahuaca, Mexico Province, MEX; heard with "Lobo" ID at 2120 PT 12/10 and mixing with CKWX over the past hour. Some sources say "La Comadre" but some sources say "Radio Lobo" as their slogan. So I will count this one! NEW #667, 10KW, 2,249 miles! Another DEEP Mexico log! Ixtlahuaca is not that far from Mexico City, probably 30 miles NW. Heard with 3 foot loop obviously. Would probably never be heard if I lived in the Seattle metro.
XEWK-1190 in Guadalajara and XEW-900 Mexico City also noted as well. This is the night for deep Mexico it seems!

-crainbebo

KHJ is a great catch. The pattern protects Pocatello so only about 700 watts in that direction.

Just FYI. Mexico does not have provinces; it has states just like the USA. In fact the country's name is The United Mexican States.

 

[cyberdad]

Two new logs tonight, 12/10, one good, and one really good.

930 - KHJ Los Angeles, CA;.... ..... Wish I could have heard them during the "Boss Radio" heyday in the late 1960s and early 1970s. I think the statistics were around 50% teenagers that listened to KHJ at that time. I'm sure the Boss Radio days rivaled "Musicradio 77" in New York as one of the best Top 40s in America. -crainbebo

First of all, congratulations on the two catches. Outstanding, IMHO. Both of them, but especially XETOL.

And with apologies for the veer, re: KHJ....

I've long advocated that the Rock and Roll Hall enshrine radio stations. A few jocks are honored, if not formally enshrined. But radio stations that played a key role in the development of the genre are effectively missing. KHJ and WABC would certainly be charter members. Perhaps also WLS, KFRC, WJW, KOWH, WINS, CKLW, WHBQ, and a few others.

 

[crainbebo]

I think another charter radio member could be KJR "Channel 95" Seattle. Great string of DJs including Pat O'Day in the 60s and 70s. Always #1 in the ratings and KOL 1300 was #2.

-crainbebo

 

[davideduardo]

First of all, congratulations on the two catches. Outstanding, IMHO. Both of them, but especially XETOL.

And with apologies for the veer, re: KHJ....

I've long advocated that the Rock and Roll Hall enshrine radio stations. A few jocks are honored, if not formally enshrined. But radio stations that played a key role in the development of the genre are effectively missing. KHJ and WABC would certainly be charter members. Perhaps also WLS, KFRC, WJW, KOWH, WINS, CKLW, WHBQ, and a few others.

Many of the stations you mention were not pioneering rock & roll stations.

WJW was never a fuil Top 40. It had network and MOR in the daytime, and on two occasions had a night show that played rock & roll... with Alan Freed and, later, Pete "Mad Daddy" Myers.

KFRC and KHJ came in 1966 and 1965, rather late to the party. CKLW and WHBQ were owned by the same company, and became Top 40 monsters only after KHJ and KFRC proved themselves.

The stations that should be honored, I believe, would be the earliest stations like WMCA, KFWB, WERE and, of course, KLIF. Some of the bigger Storz stations like WHB or WDGY and WTIX are also good examples. In fact, the McLendon and Storz groups would be ideal honorees as they really developed rock & roll radio while the much later Drake stations took the concept and just tweaked it.

KOWH was Top 40, but that was in 1952 when that meant playing Doris Day and Perry Como. By the time rock & roll came, KOIL, a fulltimer, ate their lunch.

 

[cyberdad]

David: As always, I respect and appreciate your comments and contributions. You make excellent points, and I was already aware of most of them. I should probably clarify what I wrote because the standards that I had in mind are a little different than what you're applying. Broader than just the pioneering stations, what I've envisioned would be those stations that made contributions at some point along the way in the development of the rock music genre.

For example, in my model, KOWH gets in as it was the place where Todd Storz first launched the top 40 format. WJW gets in because it's where Alan Freed began introducing "race" records to a primarily white audience (Didn't Bill Randle also cut his chops there as well?). KFRC and KHJ late to the party? So were the Byrds and Rolling Stones, but they were both influences. CKLW and WHBQ? The Who and Elton John also tweaked a proven successful concept. Although WHBQ gets into my hall for being the first (as far as I know) to play an Elvis record. That might be the radio rough counterpart of a baseball pitcher getting mention in the baseball hall of fame for pitching a no-hitter.

I also mentioned WLS and WABC. I could also include stations like KAAY and KOMA as stations that helped "build" the genre across wide geographic areas with their 50kw nighttime signals. Or how about stations like WDIA and WSM as "early influences?"

I'm also in total agreement with you that the entire Storz and McLendon groups would be in my own hypothetical "Radio Station Hall of Fame". Absolutely.

I'm arguing your points, just explaining my own personal point of view for possible criteria. (And my apologies again for the veer).