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AM Frequency of the Week: 1170

cyberdad

cyberdad

What are you guys hearing these days on 1170?

For me in the far northwest suburbs of Chicago, it's splatter from 50kw local WYLL (1160), although IIRC, only about 25kw is aimed at me.

Nights, it's still splatter from WYLL, although their night site is about 50 miles away from me and the night pattern throws almost the whole 50kw in my direction.

If I null WYLL, I can usually get 1kw KJOC from Davenport, IA with a weak signal. KFAQ occasionally surfaces, as does WWVA a little less frequently. Both of those are more common around sunset before going to their night patterns. 1170 is relatively empty here at night by modern standards.
 
I haven't checked this frequency in a long time, but in the near north Chicago burbs it's WYLL splatter during the day. At night I've heard Davenport in the past, but more often it's a weak WWVA & not much else and some more WYLL splatter.
 
Just like boombox4, KSL's IBOC is a P.I.T.A. here in Yakima, worse than in Seattle. KPUG usually comes in at night when I null out the IBOC hiss, and KLOK San Jose, CA is common during sunset or in aurora cx with south Asian programming.
KFAQ Tulsa has been heard, but it's rare. Even with KSL's HD off, I have to deal with Bellingham (~200 mi) screwing up this channel. It probably would have come in every night if we were in 1970 (as KVOO, of course), but not now.
Which also means 0.00000001% chance that I will ever get WWVA WV here either. West Virginia is an impossible state for anyone west of the Mississippi. Only way I could get WWVA is if the day power was on, non-directional, and condx to the east were rocking. Also wanted on this channel: KCBQ San Diego (have tried during Au and nothing yet), and KJJD Windsor, CO. The Windsor station is likely much tougher with only 1000W and daytimer-status. Plus KSL's IBOC would kill it.
I have also heard KYET Golden Valley, AZ a couple times (once late at night, cheating, and the other time at sunrise) with classic country and local ads. Supposed to have 1 little watt at night, well it sure sounded like 6000W the times I heard them.

-crainbebo
 
Since our local 1180 daytimer never signs off, mostly splatter by them, otherwise it's a tossup between WWVA and KFAQ (before their sunset).
 
When I was getting into the Pacific Northwest on a regular basis (2-3 times each year) during the last decade, I was hearing KLOK mixing with (or even on top of) KPUG fairly regularly at the hotel where I used to stay near Sea-Tac airport. Sometimes, if I had appointments in Vancouver (or with my one customer in Bellingham), I'd stay in the Mount Vernon area and still hear KLOK under KPUG.
 
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crainbebo said:
Just like boombox4, KSL's IBOC is a P.I.T.A. here in Yakima, worse than in Seattle. KPUG usually comes in at night when I null out the IBOC hiss, and KLOK San Jose, CA is common during sunset or in aurora cx with south Asian programming.
KFAQ Tulsa has been heard, but it's rare. Even with KSL's HD off, I have to deal with Bellingham (~200 mi) screwing up this channel. It probably would have come in every night if we were in 1970 (as KVOO, of course), but not now.
Which also means 0.00000001% chance that I will ever get WWVA WV here either. West Virginia is an impossible state for anyone west of the Mississippi. Only way I could get WWVA is if the day power was on, non-directional, and condx to the east were rocking. Also wanted on this channel: KCBQ San Diego (have tried during Au and nothing yet), and KJJD Windsor, CO. The Windsor station is likely much tougher with only 1000W and daytimer-status. Plus KSL's IBOC would kill it.
I have also heard KYET Golden Valley, AZ a couple times (once late at night, cheating, and the other time at sunrise) with classic country and local ads. Supposed to have 1 little watt at night, well it sure sounded like 6000W the times I heard them.


-crainbebo
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Keep an eye on ksl.com, and try when there is a local BYU game on the air on KSL. The IBOC (and the delay) are off during local games.
 
KFAQ Tulsa is the dominant station at 1170 in Houston at night, nothing but splatter from local 50kW adjacent KGOL Humble at 1180 during the day. Have heard Spanish on 1170 fighting KFAQ at night but never IDed it. I assume it is Reynosa, but can't confirm.
 
Days, nothing but splatter from my local on 1160.

Sunrise & Sunsets bring the following:
WWVA Wheeling WVA
WGMP (when it was WACV) Montgomery AL
WDEK Lexington SC
KFAQ Tulsa OK
WCXN Claremont NC
KBOB Davenport IA - (Heard all the call letter variations) Also heard at night.
WDFB Junction City KY
 
WFDL 1170 Waupun, WI often comes in on daytime skywave alone in Northern Lower Michigan in the winter months. Sounds like a Clear Channel. I was surprised it was only 1000 watts.

I don't know why you could never near KVOO/KFAQ after sundown in NW Chicago area unless you are really close to WJJD/WYLL.

WWVA was on 10000 watts nondirectional at night a couple of years ago due to storm damage. The problem I had hearing it was that certain daytime stations didn't sign off on time.
 
Schroedingers Cat said:
WFDL 1170 Waupun, WI often comes in on daytime skywave alone in Northern Lower Michigan in the winter months. Sounds like a Clear Channel. I was surprised it was only 1000 watts.

I don't know why you could never near KVOO/KFAQ after sundown in NW Chicago area unless you are really close to WJJD/WYLL.
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I've heard the Waupun 1170 a couple of times here during the day here when 1160 was WJJD and (apparently) running reduced power. That was quite a long time ago. As for KVOO/KFAQ, I've heard them after sundown where I am 40-plus miles northwest of Chicago. Just not very often and not very well. Radioman's location is very close to what's now WYLL's daytime stick, which used to be in use fulltime. Now, WYLL has a separate nightime location, but it's still closer to Radioman's QTH than I am, and more juice is aimed at him than me. He can correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm not sure if this is why he hasn't heard KVOO/KFAQ, but I'm pretty sure this doesn't help matters.

In college in Iowa during the late '60s, KSTT (later KJOC/KBOB) was an excellent top 40 station and a regular daytime listen for me. When they went to night pattern, they disappeared, and KVOO would come roaring in. That lasted for about a half hour until KVOO also went to night pattern. On night pattern, KVOO was weak and sporadic at best. KSTT and WWVA were missing entirely.
 
cyberdad said:
I've heard the Waupun 1170 a couple of times here during the day here when 1160 was WJJD and (apparently) running reduced power. That was quite a long time ago. As for KVOO/KFAQ, I've heard them after sundown where I am 40-plus miles northwest of Chicago. Just not very often and not very well. Radioman's location is very close to what's now WYLL's daytime stick, which used to be in use fulltime. Now, WYLL has a separate nightime location, but it's still closer to Radioman's QTH than I am, and more juice is aimed at him than me. He can correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm not sure if this is why he hasn't heard KVOO/KFAQ, but I'm pretty sure this doesn't help matters.

In college in Iowa during the late '60s, KSTT (later KJOC/KBOB) was an excellent top 40 station and a regular daytime listen for me. When they went to night pattern, they disappeared, and KVOO would come roaring in. That lasted for about a half hour until KVOO also went to night pattern. On night pattern, KVOO was weak and sporadic at best. KSTT and WWVA were missing entirely.
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You're right on target Cyberdad. The day time setup for WJJD/WYLL is too close to me. As memory serves me I did hear KVOO a few times many years ago, but I've never heard it as KFAQ.
 
Here in Pickerington, Ohio, it's all WWVA by day. Decent signal, not particularly strong, given that it's 50K getting toward the upper portion of the dial and there are some areas of poor ground conductivity between here and the tower outside St. Clairsville, just more than 100 miles away as the crow flies.
WWVA completely vanishes at pattern change.
I will be heading to Canton for work three Saturdays from now. On the same trip last year, I heard WWVA while I was driving home down I-77 around 11 p.m. It was listenable until somewhere between Dover and U.S. 36, and once I entered that western null it disappeared very quickly.
 
purpledevil said:
KFAQ Tulsa is the dominant station at 1170 in Houston at night, nothing but splatter from local 50kW adjacent KGOL Humble at 1180 during the day. Have heard Spanish on 1170 fighting KFAQ at night but never IDed it. I assume it is Reynosa, but can't confirm.
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Reynosa is only notified to the FCC to be 250watts at night...other much stronger signals on 1170 than that...
 
In eastern Iowa: KJOC Davenport daytime, from about 65 miles away. Nighttime is usually a mess with KJOC on top. Occasionally hear WWVA. Heard KVOO/KFAQ years ago occasionally, but haven't heard them in years.
 
radioman148 said:
Indeed it was. Heard it on my portable and on the rental car radio. Also heard KOKC, the old KOMA out there.
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KOKC is on omni at 50kw day/10kw night right now as they rebuild the DA (removed the STL tower which was calculated into the old pattern due to reradiation). It BOOMS into SE TX where normally it would not be heard at night..
 
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