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Best classic game show studios

What is at least one of your favorite classic game show studios of the past, and why?

For me, one of my favorites is that of Wink's TTD, especially with that big oval area of raised X's and O's behind the players, and the ring of lights around it that flowed in all directions (bottom center up to right and left center, and top center down to right and left center, IIRC). These raised X's and O's were also seen on Wink's podium, albeit without the lights.

Another one is that of Jim's $ale, especially as regards the contestant area. I liked both versions of that, but especially the second one with the lights that flowed up whenever someone buzzed in.
 
bm1981, I think you mean "sets," as in stage sets, rather than studios, which are the buildings in which said sets are placed for recording. If you will pardon that friendly correction, I'll give you my faves:

I'm a sucker for the more sedate shows from the early color era (circa 1965-73). I always felt that the NBC games taped in NYC at 30 Rock made the best of limited space. One of my personal choices would be something you likely would not agree with, but I loved the kaleidoscope motif on the Bill Cullen-hosted "Three on a Match," with its pastel shadings and concentric circles. The multi-colored game board complemented that general design well too. I also liked its sister Bob Stewart show, "Eye Guess," another Cullen game, with its optometrist office-inspired alphabet chart and curved lines. "Who, What or Where Game" was interesting, with no podium for host Art James, the large capital "W" motif, and the minimalist category board and contestant displays. I was not so hot on "Concentration" or "Jeopardy!," but both sets got the job done and did not get in the way of the game with a load of flashing bulbs and fru-fru. It seemed like every game from the early '70s onward out in La-La land just had to go all out for the gaudy and tacky, I always thought.
 
bm1981, I think you mean "sets," as in stage sets, rather than studios, which are the buildings in which said sets are placed for recording. If you will pardon that friendly correction, I'll give you my faves:

I'm a sucker for the more sedate shows from the early color era (circa 1965-73). I always felt that the NBC games taped in NYC at 30 Rock made the best of limited space. One of my personal choices would be something you likely would not agree with, but I loved the kaleidoscope motif on the Bill Cullen-hosted "Three on a Match," with its pastel shadings and concentric circles. The multi-colored game board complemented that general design well too. I also liked its sister Bob Stewart show, "Eye Guess," another Cullen game, with its optometrist office-inspired alphabet chart and curved lines. "Who, What or Where Game" was interesting, with no podium for host Art James, the large capital "W" motif, and the minimalist category board and contestant displays. I was not so hot on "Concentration" or "Jeopardy!," but both sets got the job done and did not get in the way of the game with a load of flashing bulbs and fru-fru. It seemed like every game from the early '70s onward out in La-La land just had to go all out for the gaudy and tacky, I always thought.

Yes, that is correct. In my mind, I always associate "set" with "studio" because of the way some football announcers, like those on CBS' NFL coverage in the '80s, have said things like "Let's go back to New York (or our New York studio) and Brent Musburger" (or words to that effect), and that's where that comes from. As such, thanks for the clarification.

Back on topic, another one of mine is that of Bullseye with Jim Lange, with the star-shaped board, the hypnotic swirls, and the stars around the middle. I also like the one of the original NBC CS, with the card lights behind the title, and the partitions that hid each of the boards when those boards were not in use.
 
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Recently caught a You Tube clip of the old 60's-70's Concentration, and one sound transported me back to the day, the kachunk-whirr-kachunk of the motors and relays that turned each of the board panels around. Couldn't help noticing the original board contained 30 panels (5 rows of 6 across) while the later, hi-tech board of the revival version had only 25 (5 rows of 5.) Did they have to "dumb down" the board to suit the contestants or the audience?
 
Recently caught a You Tube clip of the old 60's-70's Concentration, and one sound transported me back to the day, the kachunk-whirr-kachunk of the motors and relays that turned each of the board panels around. Couldn't help noticing the original board contained 30 panels (5 rows of 6 across) while the later, hi-tech board of the revival version had only 25 (5 rows of 5.) Did they have to "dumb down" the board to suit the contestants or the audience?

Yep, you caught on to the Alex Trebek "Classic" revision from 1987 to 1993. Remember that "Concentration" was in its first NBC run from 1958 to 1973 a low-tech affair, with no CGI or any electronic imagery. The pieces of the board were termed "trilons," with three panels, one of which showed the number (1-30), the second showed the prize, and the third the piece of the rebus puzzle. There are legends circulated by people such as then-producer Norman Blumenthal about the frequent mechanical malfunctioning of the rotors, which would be expected from the constant and repetitive use during a game, particularly if one or both contestants called the same number many times within a short period. When NBC cancelled the game in March '73 and leased it to Goodson-Todman to be revived that fall with Jack Narz at the helm out in El Lay, believe it or not, the game board and the prize panels behind the contestants were actually shipped out west, rather than the designers building new ones. I always thought that was very strange, but apparently it was a condition NBC placed upon the G-T production. But around '75 or so (and I don't know for certain the details), apparently one (or more) of the trilons caught fire or spewed smoke during a taping, and the set people had to, indeed, rebuild the board. I think difficulties like that were the main reason that other NYC shows like "Jeopardy!" used the old standby pull cards, but "Pyramid," which premiered right after the NBC "Concentration" cancellation, used automated trilons effectively for the next several years.

Now on to your main question, it was, of course, a given that G-T would use CGI when it decided to revamp "Concentration" in the mid-Eighties, first on the unsuccessful 1985 pilot with Orson Bean. Personally, I thought G-T cut the number of pieces down to 25 mainly to try to speed up the game. Remember that the NBC original had games straddling episodes, so players could take all the time they needed. That changed, though, with the 1973-78 revival, since it was syndicated in the days before satellite delivery and episodes were "bicycled" among stations. That and the fact that some markets only aired it weekly as part of the Prime Time Access Rule evening "checkerboard" mandated that shows had to be self-contained, with no returning champions (such as "Wheel of Fortune" is today). I remember that on the Narz version, play was usually interrupted with about 9-10 minutes left in the program to go to a sequential reveal, with the first player to buzz in correctly winning that game and possibly going on to the "Double Play" bonus game. The Trebek version was under similar time constraints, but, according to Wikipedia, actually had straddling and self-contained play at different times during the run. I do not think in any case that making the game easier for the contestants had much to do with the decision to reduce the number of pieces to 25--it was about saving time (and money by cutting down on two or more prizes that would have been available on the earlier versions) and keeping a faster pace to generate excitement. That is to say that the patience of our grandmothers' generation (who watched the NBC original) was dwindling, since people by then had remote controls. These days, forget about it.
 
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Thanks for your explanation of the mechanics behind the Concentration board! Not to belabor the issue (though I may have already,) were the board panels operated from the stage, by for example a floor manager; or from the control room by a director or technician? Another interesting point about the original show was that for most if not all of its run, the music was live. They employed an organist (somewhat of a carry-over from radio days); his name was Milton Kaye and he was excellent.

A gentleman named Lance Jackson has produced on You Tube some re-creations of the lost art of the radio/TV studio organist. You can see him in action here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN8XJb6LOWs
 
what i like about perry was his poudimn with the lights
 
I was a game show junkie as a kid in the late 60s. Back then, I couldn't tell you if a show originated from NY or LA, but it seemed that generally the sets steered clear of a lot of flashing lights and busy-ness.

Concentration without the whirling, ker-chocking electro-mechanical beast was just another game show. It was one of my favorites as a kid. Watching the few surviving episodes on YouTube, I have to conclude that now, it's like watching paint dry. But the organist on the show...he was good then, and it's just as good watching and listening to him today. Also, Hugh Downs and Jack Narz would be among my favorite game show hosts of that time.

A game show that I didn't remember watching at the time was "You Don't Say". Tom Kennedy (Narz) was a great host but was saddled with a weak Password retread. And the live organ/vibes/percussion combo that played live was boffo. Another guilty pleasure courtesy of YouTube.
 
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I was a game show junkie as a kid in the late 60s. Back then, I couldn't tell you if a show originated from NY or LA, but it seemed that generally the sets steered clear of a lot of flashing lights and busy-ness.

Concentration without the whirling, ker-chocking electro-mechanical beast was just another game show. It was one of my favorites as a kid. Watching the few surviving episodes on YouTube, I have to conclude that now, it's like watching paint dry. But the organist on the show...he was good then, and it's just as good watching and listening to him today.

A game show that I didn't remember watching at the time was "You Don't Say". Tom Kennedy (Narz) was a great host but was saddled with a weak Password retread. And the live organ/vibes/percussion combo that played live was boffo. Another guilty pleasure courtesy of YouTube.
i thought kennedy was quite good on tpir
 
I'm a sucker for the more sedate shows from the early color era (circa 1965-73). I always felt that the NBC games taped in NYC at 30 Rock made the best of limited space. One of my personal choices would be something you likely would not agree with, but I loved the kaleidoscope motif on the Bill Cullen-hosted "Three on a Match," with its pastel shadings and concentric circles. The multi-colored game board complemented that general design well too. I also liked its sister Bob Stewart show, "Eye Guess," another Cullen game, with its optometrist office-inspired alphabet chart and curved lines. "Who, What or Where Game" was interesting, with no podium for host Art James, the large capital "W" motif, and the minimalist category board and contestant displays. I was not so hot on "Concentration" or "Jeopardy!," but both sets got the job done and did not get in the way of the game with a load of flashing bulbs and fru-fru. It seemed like every game from the early '70s onward out in La-La land just had to go all out for the gaudy and tacky, I always thought.

Eye Guess was probably the first time I ever heard of Bill Cullen (I missed out on Cullen's TPIR). :(

I don't remember Who, What or Where Game

Yes, Concentration (where I first heard of Hugh Downs) and J! did a nice job with spare, simple (but not simplistic sets). And I loved Concentration's animated opening showing the show's title's letters scrunched into a square, then freeing themselves to spell the name (an animation that G-T ditched when it leased over the franchise).

Classic Concentration just didn't look right with a computerized board rather than rotating metal trylons.

ixnay
 
Eye Guess was probably the first time I ever heard of Bill Cullen (I missed out on Cullen's TPIR). :(

I don't remember Who, What or Where Game

Yes, Concentration (where I first heard of Hugh Downs) and J! did a nice job with spare, simple (but not simplistic sets). And I loved Concentration's animated opening showing the show's title's letters scrunched into a square, then freeing themselves to spell the name (an animation that G-T ditched when it leased over the franchise).

Classic Concentration just didn't look right with a computerized board rather than rotating metal trylons.

ixnay


Correction: "leased", not "leased over".

ixnay
 
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