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Does anyone besides me think AC today is a joke?

semoochie said:
It can't fit Hot AC. It's too old!
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I thought Hot AC was still doing 80s music. At least music like that.

Okay, "We play anything", then.

But this is supposed to be the softest station in the market. There need to be limits.

Although this is true: during the day on weekdays there is an AM, and the classical station was playing music, as well as the NPR station which was doing new age and smooth jazz, which was terrible. And the BBN station was playing music.
 
semoochie said:
"She Bop" peaked at #3. That's as big as "California Girls" or any number of other classics!
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But not as big as "California Gurls"!

My bad on the "She Bop" chart data. Guess the reason it's hardly heard on classic hits stations is that it doesn't test as well as "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun."
 
I see "She Bop" pop up occasionally on the "we play anything" station locally and across the country.
 
vchimpanzee said:
I thought Hot AC was still doing 80s music. At least music like that.

Okay, "We play anything", then.

But this is supposed to be the softest station in the market. There need to be limits.

Although this is true: during the day on weekdays there is an AM, and the classical station was playing music, as well as the NPR station which was doing new age and smooth jazz, which was terrible. And the BBN station was playing music.
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Who's going to set the limits? The FCC isn't allowed to touch programming! This reminds me of the story about wanting to shut down the U.S. Patent Office in the late 1800s because "Everything that can be invented, already has been."! There can't be enough exclamation marks for that one.
 
semoochie said:
Who's going to set the limits? The FCC isn't allowed to touch programming! This reminds me of the story about wanting to shut down the U.S. Patent Office in the late 1800s because "Everything that can be invented, already has been."! There can't be enough exclamation marks for that one.
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Again, Mr. Chimp, your foot is firmly planted in your mouth. Google "WNCN" or go on David Gleason's site and search for those call letters and you will see how the public running to the FCC every time they didn't like a station's business decision to change formats ended up removing the FCC's authority to regulate same.
 
eriedj said:
I see "She Bop" pop up occasionally on the "we play anything" station locally and across the country.
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Since Hartford is one of the few decent-sized markets that's never had such a station -- even when the format was all the rage nationally -- I was unaware that it was being played on any stations. AAA is another format that's never been tried in Hartford, either on commercial or public radio. What has worked here for the past 30 years has been AC, Hot AC, CHR, contemporary country (since 1988, actually) and classic rock/classic hits.
 
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K.M. Richards said:
Again, Mr. Chimp, your foot is firmly planted in your mouth. Google "WNCN" or go on David Gleason's site and search for those call letters and you will see how the public running to the FCC every time they didn't like a station's business decision to change formats ended up removing the FCC's authority to regulate same.
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I never said the FCC should regulate programming.

Although it would be nice if certain stations didn't get to change formats.
 
vchimpanzee said:
I thought Hot AC was still doing 80s music. At least music like that.
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Hot AC is basically CHR without the heavier rhythmic, r&b and hip hop.

While each implementation is market-tailored, most Hot AC's play near-currents and recurrents and very recent gold. Not 80's. Not much, if any, 90's.
 
In Canada stations need CRTC approval before changing formats. This hurts some broadcasters when they are running a format that is not producing enough revenue.. but the CRTC will not let there be "too many" of any format in any market. So, in order to change format, the ownership has to find or prove that the format they want to do is not being done or does not already have a strong presence in the market.
 
I should have mentioned the Canada situation. Thanks for that.

I guess in this country we take a more conservative position on this issue. I've always assumed the Canada policy had something to do with how few people there were and how few radio stations there were.

But I've been here long enough to know that if I got what I wanted, it would be like the raising of the minimum wage for fast food workers. There would be unintended consequences and the station might just end up going off the air, just like the fast-food job might go away.
 
vchimpanzee said:
I never said the FCC should regulate programming.

Although it would be nice if certain stations didn't get to change formats.
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You implied it. Emphasis mine:

vchimpanzee said:
I thought Hot AC was still doing 80s music. At least music like that.

Okay, "We play anything", then.

But this is supposed to be the softest station in the market. There need to be limits.

Although this is true: during the day on weekdays there is an AM, and the classical station was playing music, as well as the NPR station which was doing new age and smooth jazz, which was terrible. And the BBN station was playing music.
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That's a long way removed from "it would be nice if certain stations didn't get to change formats."

As Frank says ... if you're not proposing the FCC regulate programming formats, who are you proposing to do it? And, to follow through on what you just said about "certain" stations, are you now proposing that some stations should be allowed to and others expressly forbidden to?

You, sir, would like your cake and eat it too. As far as the industry goes, your views are so far removed from reality as to fall into the "knows less than nothing" category.

Stop making yourself look bad. Stop posting, at least without seriously thinking about what you're saying.
 
frankberry said:
If not the FCC, who would tell the stations that they can't change formats?
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The FCC doesn't get involved in programming because it was determined to be unconstitutional for them to do so but not until after poor WNCN had to change back to Classical because of public pressure! The NAB could make it policy but it would only be in the line of a suggestion and I don't expect them to bother at this late date.
 
I'm not seriously saying anyone should regulate what songs are played on AC radio. Obviously if the lyrics are no longer considered an issue, then it's just how loud the song is.

This particular station is too far gone to be considered "soft" anyway. During the day, there is a wonderful option if you can pick up AM and are willing to deal with its problems.
 
vchimpanzee said:
I'm not seriously saying anyone should regulate what songs are played on AC radio.
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Sorry, but the way you ramble and whine and go off on tangents and make ambiguous statements and generally treat this board as if it's your own personal blog, I no longer can tell when you are serious or not.

And I suspect I am not the only one in that situation.
 
Music Lover's hubby here. (Name's Timothy, by the way. Her's is Mary.)

Rambling is the perfect description for the Chimp.
 
Let's not make this into a big argument, but I do have this to say.

"I Feel for You" by Chaka Khan is a perfectly appropriate song for any AC station that still plays 80s music. However, I don't feel Melle Mel's contribution belongs on any AC station, and I seem to recall some stations didn't play that part of the song back when it was first popular. Hot AC, maybe, but people are saying that format no longer includes the 80s. We Play Everything, of course.
 
I looked at the original post and this is related to that.

94.5 The Tide in Myrtle Beach did not bleep the F-word in a song about a talking body.

Surely that wasn't intentional and they didn't know they had an incorrect version. You can't expect people to be hanging around waiting for something to bleep. Unless your station airs someone like Howard Stern.

And it's a mainstream AC. The AC in that market before The Tide came along was actually a Hot AC and probably still is.
 
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