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Kzla 98.3 cp

Don't count on it. If it does happen -- it will be "on the air" only for a short time and then go silent -- like alot of stations are doing in the valley right now. Sign on the air -- file a FCC Form 302 -- requiest a license -- and go dark until they can sell the station or come up with cash and a game plan to operate the station. KPSV FM Tulare is just holding on to the License until they can sell it. (need to hold the License for 4 years on that one). So is KMEN. The owners of KZLA also have a single station at Mettler - 98.1 A near the Grapevine. KZLA was a partnership to "sell" KZLA and get some quick cash for the rest of the Ventura Group. Very hard to get a Million dollars for a station that is not even on the air.
 
MrZoom said:
Don't count on it. If it does happen -- it will be "on the air" only for a short time and then go silent -- like alot of stations are doing in the valley right now. Sign on the air -- file a FCC Form 302 -- requiest a license -- and go dark until they can sell the station or come up with cash and a game plan to operate the station. KPSV FM Tulare is just holding on to the License until they can sell it. (need to hold the License for 4 years on that one). So is KMEN. The owners of KZLA also have a single station at Mettler - 98.1 A near the Grapevine. KZLA was a partnership to "sell" KZLA and get some quick cash for the rest of the Ventura Group. Very hard to get a Million dollars for a station that is not even on the air.
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KZLA would still have to pay "rent" to One Putt Broadcasting for use of the 105.5 stick whether they are on or off.
 
True -- but keep your eye on the Prize. The object is to make money. A large amount of cash by way of a sale to some other sucker. Once licensed -- go silent again. Apply to move it to another site and start the process all over until you find a buyer.
 
Does anyone know if the 100 watts 98.3 signal in Huron on the air, if so what format is it?
 
Hold the phone !!!! Petition For Reconsideration (Special Relief) to delete "Condition 9" on 98.3 B1 Construction Permit.

Sink or Swim
-- "Program Tests for KZLA will not commence on channel 252B1 with the facilities specified herein until program tests for a full service AM or FM Broadcast station serving Huron, CA commences operation and a license will not be granted for KZLA on channel 252B1 with the facilities specified herein (( The new B1 location ))
until a license is granted for a full service AM or FM Broadcast station serving Huron, CA

In the "Pet for recon" KZLA in Huron (Class A) is noted as being Silent. I guess someone forgot to tell the FCC staff -- until now about this matter.

The "back-fill" station at Huron --educational station KHRN -- has already come and gone. They turned in the license. WHOOOOPPS --

I wonder who was behind KHRN ??

Is that enough ?? Tune in tomorrow -- to the next adventures of "will KZLA ever be built?"
 
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100 watt KZLA Huron is worthless. 25000 Riverdale KZLA has potential value. Maybe to One Putt. Probably reaches as many people as 790.

Am I understanding this right, MrZoom just said Huron must get a station before KZLA could air on the KJZN stick?
 
That is what the FCC has attached as Condition # 9 - to the new CP granted to KZLA for the new site.

KZLA has requested that the FCC delete that condition because
there WAS -- at one time -- another FM station operating from Huron.
(AKA: A back-fill station). However -- that station --has turned in that license.

Too sad. Too bad. Good bye Riverdale B1.
 
MrZoom said:
That is what the FCC has attached as Condition # 9 - to the new CP granted to KZLA for the new site.

KZLA has requested that the FCC delete that condition because
there WAS -- at one time -- another FM station operating from Huron.
(AKA: A back-fill station). However -- that station --has turned in that license.

Too sad. Too bad. Good bye Riverdale B1.
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Are you freakin serious, First of all that signal would cover Huron big time, so you are saying Huron not near no major populated area needs a replacement station for that upgrade. that sounds like bullcrap, like Brett said to cover 790 people.
 
It is NOT my rule. The FCC has attached condition 9 -- as an FCC rule. Before KZLA could move to Riverdale -- from Huron -- the FCC required another radio service to serve
Huron. It is long standing policy and FCC rule that you may not remove the only radio or TV station from a community - without having another service in it's place. KZLA requested to move from Huron to Riverdale and to upgrade to B1. One of the FCC requirements was that Huron must have atleast ONE radio service.

KZLA asked KNGS to change it's City of License -- to Huron so that KZLA could Move out of Huron. KZLA did NOT offer to pay KNGS to do so -- so KNGS FM said NO.

"Someone" filed for a new Full power educational station to serve Huron. It was granted and went on the air and was granted a License. The FCC then appoved
KZLA to move out of Huron and upgrade to B1 at Riverdale.

This is all about making money by selling KZLA. The owners of KZLA have been trying to sell KZLA for some BIG DOLLARS but have had no takers. They have been marking time by moving KZLA from tower to tower -- place to place -- until they could get
to a place and time -- that someone might want to buy KZLA.
Now they have a tower and might have a buyer -- but because the Educational Station
( who ever that was -- hint hint ) turned in the FCC license BEFORE KZLA had
begun operations at Riverdale -- and REMAINS the only radio service at Huron --
the FCC attached Condition 9 to the new B1 CP for KZLA.

KZLA should have made sure that the "Back-fill" Educational FM at Huron remained "ON THE AIR" until KZLA had fully been constructed at Riverdale.

Since KZLA is "Silent" They have even more of a problem.

KZLA has requested that the FCC delete condition 9 -- but IF they do not -- KZLA will be stuck in Huron as a Class A -- until another radio station "Signs on the air" At Huron.

The 98.1 A at Mettler or the new Class C FM at Alturas may be built long before KZLA. All of which are owned by the same group and are for sale. I wonder who was behind that Educational at Huron.

Who goofed -- I gotta know !!
 
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MrZoom said:
It is NOT my rule. The FCC has attached condition 9 -- as an FCC rule. Before KZLA could move to Riverdale -- from Huron -- the FCC required another radio service to serve
Huron. It is long standing policy and FCC rule that you may not remove the only radio or TV station from a community - without having another service in it's place. KZLA requested to move from Huron to Riverdale and to upgrade to B1. One of the FCC requirements was that Huron must have atleast ONE radio service.

KZLA asked KNGS to change it's City of License -- to Huron so that KZLA could Move out of Huron. KZLA did NOT offer to pay KNGS to do so -- so KNGS FM said NO.

"Someone" filed for a new Full power educational station to serve Huron. It was granted and went on the air and was granted a License. The FCC then appoved
KZLA to move out of Huron and upgrade to B1 at Riverdale.

This is all about making money by selling KZLA. The owners of KZLA have been trying to sell KZLA for some BIG DOLLARS but have had no takers. They have been marking time by moving KZLA from tower to tower -- place to place -- until they could get
to a place and time -- that someone might want to buy KZLA.
Now they have a tower and might have a buyer -- but because the Educational Station
( who ever that was -- hint hint ) turned in the FCC license BEFORE KZLA had
begun operations at Riverdale -- and REMAINS the only radio service at Huron --
the FCC attached Condition 9 to the new B1 CP for KZLA.

KZLA should have made sure that the "Back-fill" Educational FM at Huron remained "ON THE AIR" until KZLA had fully been constructed at Riverdale.

Since KZLA is "Silent" They have even more of a problem.

KZLA has requested that the FCC delete condition 9 -- but IF they do not -- KZLA will be stuck in Huron as a Class A -- until another radio station "Signs on the air" At Huron.

The 98.1 A at Mettler or the new Class C FM at Alturas may be built long before KZLA. All of which are owned by the same group and are for sale. I wonder who was behind that Educational at Huron.

Who goofed -- I gotta know !!
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Well there is one other option to make it a class B1, keep the Huron COL and pick a different site near Huron, the one West of I-5 up on the ridge that KBHH 95.3 moved to, also the former 105.5 site, comes to mind.
 
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Well there is one other option to make it a class B1, keep the Huron COL and pick a different site near Huron, the one West of I-5 up on the ridge that KBHH 95.3 moved to, also the former 105.5 site, comes to mind.
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Why do they need to change the COL to Riverdale? KJZN 105.5 COL is San Joaquin, same difference, and that site serves both "cities" the same. and for that site West of I-5 it is line of site to Fresno and not on the Valley floor.
 
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98.3 can not upgrade to B1 -- unless it moves to a very small area - near Riverdale. That small area is to far from Huron -- to provide a 70 dBu (Citygrade Coverage) over the city of Huron. The only possible way to upgrade to higher class is to relocate the transmitter to that small area. Any other site or area will NOT meet the FCC rules.
End of story.
 
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98.3 can not upgrade to B1 -- unless it moves to a very small area - near Riverdale. That small area is to far from Huron -- to provide a 70 dBu (Citygrade Coverage) over the city of Huron. The only possible way to upgrade to higher class is to relocate the transmitter to that small area. Any other site or area will NOT meet the FCC rules.
End of story.
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Well that's too bad what a waste of a station, that's one of those frequencies that would fit in the Fresno area, 98.3 or 98.5 with no adjacent channel signals, and I really doubt that Huron station will ever go on the air again.
 
kenrayc said:
Well that's too bad what a waste of a station, that's one of those frequencies that would fit in the Fresno area, 98.3 or 98.5 with no adjacent channel signals, and I really doubt that Huron station will ever go on the air again.
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What I meant to say is that that's the last signal that can work in Metro Fresno as a full power commercial station, all others not available anymore, what a waste of a signal.
 
Wrong. 97.9 and 98.9 are both adjacent channels and requires 98.3 B1 to be near Riverdale and no closer to Fresno or any where else. That is why some smart engineer Rulemade / dropped it into Huron. There were -- at that time two other open commercial channels that would work as "Back-fill" that could also be put into Huron, to allow 98.3 to be moved to Riverdale.
 
MrZoom said:
Wrong. 97.9 and 98.9 are both adjacent channels and requires 98.3 B1 to be near Riverdale and no closer to Fresno or any where else. That is why some smart engineer Rulemade / dropped it into Huron. There were -- at that time two other open commercial channels that would work as "Back-fill" that could also be put into Huron, to allow 98.3 to be moved to Riverdale.
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I do know that, and understand the spacing of channels like for example 99.3 in Fresno and 94.3 in Kerman, 105.5 KJZN San Joaquin for example that serve the metro Fresno area, when I said adjacent I meant First Adjacent and yes 98.3 would have to be about 40 miles from 97.9, but 98.9 is not a factor being more than 50 miles away like I mentioned KJWL 99.3, being in Downtown Fresno with 16K watts ERP. and to mention also 104.1 and 103.7 both class B stations and we have lp104.3 in Biola, so all Eshom Point stations are not a factor from the 2nd adjacent rule in Fresno, Meadow Lakes and That site near Northfork (92.1) No, must be 40+miles away.
 
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Wow. A mouth full. However - the fact remains - the ONLY location that allows 98.3 to be used as a B1 - is a very small area - of about 4 to 5 miles - near it's present proposed location. And a B1 from that location - is more than 15 miles away from Huron, which prevents providing a 70 dBu contour over Huron. That then requires a City of License change to a city or town that is within about 15 miles. That would be Riverdale.

The more important question is - what will KZLA do next - if the FCC does not delete Condition Number 9 from the outstanding "B1" CP ??
 
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