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I am new here...Morning Radio sucks!

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Newbie3

So I am a CRAZY morning show freak and I have been listening to some of the crap Seattle calls a morning show. Can someone provide the details on who the ratings people think are the top rated shows here in Seattle?

I was listening to Brooke and Jubel this morning for a while and can't believe how horrible it was. They did a "second date update" segment that I have heard in at least 3 other markets and it was obviously fake and they have the typical crew of fake laughers in the background...wow it was bad.

I also tuned into Danny B. on KZOK. I used to hear him in Philly and I see he is about the same. Not too bad, but hard to stay tuned for too long.

A lot of stations just seem to be music intensive. Does that work here? The show on 95.7 was OK, but the hosts seemed to think they were funnier than they were. And this BJ guy seems like he wants to be Howard Stern.

So what are the top rated shows? What do you guys and gals recommend to a newbie here in seattle to listen to in the AM?

Thanks!
 
Hello newbie...too bad you weren't listening when Bob Rivers was still on the air :(

Agree with you about most of the others, I'm currently listening to Danny and Sara - they can be funny at times but the show format is awful repetitious. (got spoiled listening to Bob)
 
I used to listen to Kent and Allan, but when they eliminated the breaks at 15 and 45 making everything sound very rushed, I switched to the news on KOMO.
 
I'd say that the shows on KISW (BJ Shea in mornings and The Men's Room in afternoons) are the only shows left in this town worth listening to. Bob Rivers and crew were the best, but unfortunately they're gone now. Danny B. is only tolerable in five minute increments. (Charlie and Ty on KUBE in the '80s will always be my favorite.)
 
Agreed on BJ Shea being the best currently on Seattle morning radio. Thing to remember, tho is that establishing a morning show takes time - something not allowed in today's instant-gratification PPM world.
 
I tend to be a "get off my lawn" old fart on these issues....but generally, when the "Zoo" morning shows started, the emphasis changed in many morning situations from "how can we entertain YOU" to "it's all about our little team". They added people to the "cast" (most morning shows were just one person until the early 80's) .... and the content began going downhill as you wind up with 3-5 people in the studio talking all over each other and ABOUT each other. In some cases...producers are an excellent addition and concept; and in other cases the producers just coast with a template that gets filled in with same repeated crap. Not saying Seattle is better or worse than any other market -- just saying that trend sure changed content emphasis. Even on TV, programs like "the Today Show" are filled with 6 people who are all talking at the same time.
 
Danny B. is only tolerable in five minute increments.

heh, I actually listened to a whole Danny B show a few weeks ago with not too much stomach upset :) but yes, Danny's voice and jokes do grate after awhile - Sara and the others do balance it out a little.
 
Newbie3 said:
So I am a CRAZY morning show freak and I have been listening to some of the crap Seattle calls a morning show. Can someone provide the details on who the ratings people think are the top rated shows here in Seattle?

I was listening to Brooke and Jubel this morning for a while and can't believe how horrible it was. They did a "second date update" segment that I have heard in at least 3 other markets and it was obviously fake and they have the typical crew of fake laughers in the background...wow it was bad.

I also tuned into Danny B. on KZOK. I used to hear him in Philly and I see he is about the same. Not too bad, but hard to stay tuned for too long.

A lot of stations just seem to be music intensive. Does that work here? The show on 95.7 was OK, but the hosts seemed to think they were funnier than they were. And this BJ guy seems like he wants to be Howard Stern.

So what are the top rated shows? What do you guys and gals recommend to a newbie here in seattle to listen to in the AM?

Thanks!
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It really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone in this industry that stations / AM shows use fake or canned bits like Phone taps, War of the Roses, etc. So what Brooke and Jubal uses staged bits if people like it then they like it. And if people want to hear the same canned War of the Roses bits that are used in Sacramento, Dallas, and Detroit here in Seattle then awesome...if it works it works. Agree that all the "self talk" about look at us is not helping AM drive. If you want to win, and I mean really want to win you make it about the listener. You make them the star of the show. People don't really like to sit there and watch YOUR home movies - why because they are NOT in them....it's all about YOU and that is not welcoming nor is it inviting. People want to see themselves in your "home movies" or "pictures" they look to identify and relate and most AM radio and all day parts in general fail miserably at achieving this goal.
 
see ratings here: http://ratings.****************/cgi-bin/rol.exe/arb039. They are 12+ this is all we can legally post here
As far as the rest of comments - I will quote a PD of one of the top rated stations here who shared this with me one evening "everyone wants to be program director, but no one wants to take the pay cut!"
There are lots of smart hard working good people in this business. If you have a positive suggestion for them- send it to them. If all you want to do is trash everyone, go buy an i pod/ satellite radio/computer or some LP's.
xoxox
 
"There are lots of smart hard working good people in this business. If you have a positive suggestion for them- send it to them. If all you want to do is trash everyone, go buy an i pod/ satellite radio/computer or some LP's."

I'll add to that. The RadioDiscussions group is here for people who are in the radio/TV business and for people who like the radio/TV business.
Occasional complaints are fine. Continuous trashing of the broadcast industry is not.
 
frankberry said:
"There are lots of smart hard working good people in this business. If you have a positive suggestion for them- send it to them. If all you want to do is trash everyone, go buy an i pod/ satellite radio/computer or some LP's."

I'll add to that. The RadioDiscussions group is here for people who are in the radio/TV business and for people who like the radio/TV business.
Occasional complaints are fine. Continuous trashing of the broadcast industry is not.
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Slippery slope in that last part. Honestly, if you're only seeking the people who work and/or like the business, then you're asking for it. If you read comments carefully, it's easy to pick out the ones who are in the business now, were in the business and the ones who loathe the business. You're technically booting out about 80% of the contributors to this board strictly by your criteria.

The business is going through hard times, it's much easier to type "ICRAPMEDIA" or "THEY SUCK" rather than sit down and write something halfway constructive, perhaps from a different angle. When you challenge people here to apply for open positions to make a difference (KNHC, KPLU, KNDD), or invite people to legally protect their ideas through copyrighting and sell them to radio stations, regulars here look away faster than when seeing a homeless person on the sidewalk asking for money.

Typing this out because there might be a pretty wide valley in the belief of who you are targeting as contributors versus who actually contributes here.
 
Let try this.To those who think Seattle radio sucks, can you provide some CURRENT examples of markets where you think it doesn't suck? I ask for current examples only to avoid the whole 'oh when I was a kid/ when times were good/ it used to be" type comparisons. Are there some actual great radio shows-morning or otherwise- around the country that Seattle could learn something from? What makes them good? Are they commercially successful? enlighten us.
 
"It sucks" and "it's not for me" are two different things. Can point to a station in almost every market that is successful, but not sure it's something I would choose to hear. So to the bean counters, those successes do NOT suck. To the people who listen to them, they do not suck. But subjectively....I'd probably vote differently. Some of the satellite services are not bad .... but from my point of view as long as the product is "sterile", I don't find it compelling. Have often said that the key to getting incredible TSL is to make people believe they will MISS something if they tune out. Hearing high rotation music and liners/contest promos sprinkled in has never left me with the feeling that I'm going to miss anything if I walk away! Using Jon Stewart as an example...you might be OKAY if you miss the show, but may also wonder "I wonder what the treatment of {????} would have been".
 
LITTLEBOYBLUE said:
Hearing high rotation music and liners/contest promos sprinkled in has never left me with the feeling that I'm going to miss anything if I walk away!
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Depends what people are tuning in to hear. If they mainly want to hear their favorite music plus traffic and weather, then the rest doesn't matter. If they mainly want to hear a "show," then the music shouldn't matter.

Some people have an expectation of having a "show" plus having their favorite music, and the odds of those two things coming together aren't too good. Too many variables. It's usually going to be one or the other. So if you want a topical, funny show, you may have to sit through some songs you don't like.
 
Just relocated to Houston for a summer job.

Have been driving to work daily. Very surprised to hear numerous multi-person morning shows, with listener call-ins, etc. Haven't listened to a tradition morning show in Seattle in ages.

I even heard a live traffic report on a music station today in the middle of the day. Very different.
 
iHeart for whatever reason does traffic reports down here during the noon and 1 PM hours. No this isn't an example from Seattle, but it seems to suggest a trend for where the adio industry as a whole is going. About a year ago, iHeart replaced some tracked shows, mainly in the east, with one live show. One of these stations was WHQC in Charlotte. Listening to their previous night show, you would have never been able to guess it was tracked, it sounded great. This new live show is boring. What gives? Why blow out a show that sounds live even when it's tracked for something that's the complete opposite?
 
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