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KRTH playing 2004 music!
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Perhaps not the only, in the literal sense. But realistically, that's not how typical listeners behave.
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BigA, I pretty much quit listening to CHR around 2003-04 when a majority of the songs were rap (which I hate) and hip-hop (most of which I hate. I enjoyed "Southern California's Adult Album Alternative" KSCA in 1994-95 but the format didn't last long. I like country music and I like many of the XM channels, so I do get my "music variety," just not on KRTH or any of the other FM stations with dinky playlists.
By the way, if KRTH wants to attract listeners in the 25-to-39 age group, why are they still playing the now-48-years-old Brown Eyed Girl? Forty-eight years old! Can you imagine KHJ in 1965 playing Ev'ry Little While by Al Jolson?
By the way, if KRTH wants to attract listeners in the 25-to-39 age group, why are they still playing the now-48-years-old Brown Eyed Girl? Forty-eight years old! Can you imagine KHJ in 1965 playing Ev'ry Little While by Al Jolson?
Because for some reason that particular song and performance resonates with that age group. I go out a lot, and socialize with people in that age group, and when that song comes on, they all know it and react positively, regardless of how many times they hear it. It's like the National Anthem. Not everyone is like you.
If you're tired of that song, imagine how tired Van is of singing it. He's in a very different place in his life now. Yet every time he sings it, it gets the biggest reaction of the night. Gloria used to be that song, or Moon Dance, but not any more. This is the one people come to hear, and that's why he still does it. Same with a radio station. The station plays it because of the response it gets, regardless of how often they play it.
What I've found is that people like you will never be satisfied with the playlist of any station, regardless of format, regardless of owner, regardless of situation. That's because it's not as wide as your own personal collection. But you're not the person a station programs to...as we've said ten billion times. Had you gotten into radio as a career YOU would be the one sitting there like Shotgun Kelly as Brown Eyes Girl gets played over and over. Imagine that for a minute.
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I never get tired of anything he does. I was at a Zac Brown concert and he does a note for note cover of Into The Mystic. Zac is in his mid-30s, and he knows Van's songs as though he grew up with them, but he didn't. He's the same way with Queen and Crosby Stills & Nash. This music is resonating with that demo, and they don't complain about hearing the songs again. They were raised on Sesame Street, and if you've watched that show, it's all about repetition.
Thomps2525,
Please stop complaining about KRTH. Counting the number of times that a particular song has played is childish.
Please stop complaining about KRTH. Counting the number of times that a particular song has played is childish.
I am very satisfied with KWRP's playlist. In fact they've played numerous requests that many others do not do. As far as Shotgun Tom is concerned, that's his job. If Shotgun were able to play from a playlist of 2000 songs, that would be his job too and I'm sure he'd be thrilled either way.
This whole idea of what songs a radio station should play, and how often, really intrigues me because there is so much at stake, from a business perspective. Recently, I was solicited to particpate in a music focus groups but did not qualify after I answered some questions. I am sure my age, 55, did me in. I believe the demo goes 25-54. I would have loved to particpate just to see, in person, how such research is done.
I have also been listening to Sirius XM a lot since I bought a new car and a free 3 month trial came with it. I just wrote the check to renew it for another 6 months. It is a new toy for me so I love it. My favorite channels are The Bridge and The 70's. I am definitely hearing songs I no longer hear on regular FM radio but then again, the business model is very different.
Finally, I still listen to KRTH even though the music is getting younger. I probably always will...
I have also been listening to Sirius XM a lot since I bought a new car and a free 3 month trial came with it. I just wrote the check to renew it for another 6 months. It is a new toy for me so I love it. My favorite channels are The Bridge and The 70's. I am definitely hearing songs I no longer hear on regular FM radio but then again, the business model is very different.
Finally, I still listen to KRTH even though the music is getting younger. I probably always will...
Great. Enjoy it while you can.
I've been wondering where to put this since they came on the air May 1st: If some of you guys lived in Portland, OR, you'd be jumping for joy! The latest incarnation of Kisn Radio in the form of an LPFM has a playlist of over 90,000 titles and ALL the jingles from the stations heyday. They're running about a watt and a half from the top of Mt. Scott and go all over the east side. The other day, within an hour, I heard the original versions of two songs that I had always thought were the original versions, "Bad Boy"(from the Beatles album, from the 50s) and much to my surprise, "Tainted Love", from the 60s. They've been able to pick up a good amount of underwriters in a short time so should be around for awhile. The whole thing is very tightly produced and they even have some live bodies on weekends.
That's the key thing to point out. An LPFM is a non-profit station that operates on listener contributions, not advertising. So if you listen, it behooves you to contribute as much as you can. Their expenses are great, especially if they're streaming. This is completely different from a major market full power FM station that is advertiser supported. Truthfully, the Congress licensed these stations for hyper-local community service, and not to be a music jukebox for the entire country, so they're kind of stretching the law by doing what they do. But until they run out of money, or the people running it find other things to do, you've got a radio station.
90.000 titles? So if I happen to hear something I like that I happened to buy when it was number 39 for one week in 1967, I have a statistical chance of hearing it again in five years? I'm sure everyone is going to come running. The geeks and collectors will be very loud in their support while contributing next to nothing, while fixating on one obscure song and demanding to hear it 3 times a day.
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And there's no way realistically that such station could even play 90K titles. Probably a library database total (which any station in theory could have) but actively only rotate a tiny fraction of that on a weekly basis.
Even KRTH has "access" to 90,000 titles, if need be.
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Music tests are far more specific than 25-54. One might do 21-36, another might do women 25-44 and so one.
To see what you missed, take a look at a real music test being done here: http://www.americanradiohistory.com/research_AMT.htm
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Winner of the best sarcastic post ever award. ^^^^^^^^
You're on the right track but they don't evenly rotate 90,000 songs. They drop in a few "lost gems"(or whatever you want to call them) per hour. For the most part a "music fan"(your word, not mine)would probably recognize and appreciate most of it. The masses probably would not. For one thing, it's possible to hear "adult leaning" songs back to back, say "Calcutta" followed by "King of the Road" but generally, it's a nice experience IF you occasionally like to hear something like "He's Sure the Boy I Love" and don't mind sitting though an occasional totally unfamiliar song.
But let's be clear about this: The motivation here is to attract some people who will pay money for this kind of radio, and it's my experience that it's a very small group. Nothing wrong with that but it means that small group HAS to be willing to pay. Otherwise it's a very expensive hobby.
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