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K283CH 104-5 Alvin

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purpledevil

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Check your radios, 104-5 is live at 7:35am this morning (Thursday) playing back to back Spanish Christian music. Very strong signal near IAH. Stopped seek function, no static, very clear. Amazingly, extremely good, crisp audio as well.

Won't cover north of Pasadena, eh? Credit where credit is due, Joe did call this one.
 
JoeFM said:
I'd say 104.5 at 250 watts will cover everything inside BW 8 from that height...
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The useful coverage will be inside the 610, not the 8.
 
Well now they're playing secular music in Spanish. Probably some contract with El Tropi show?
 
recnet.com shows this station rebroadcasts KTBZ. There is no sub-channel of KTBZ playing the music on this station. I wonder which station is translator rebroadcasting? If none, are they possibly allowed to originate programming during testing?
 
http://fccdata.org/?facid=146522

104-5 is broadcasting from Chase, that's why it's crystal clear near the airport. From the house, it's absolutely smoking. Disconnected the antenna from my receiver, and STILL get 104-5 in the house. I can't even do that with the Mo. City sticks.

I never saw this latest amendment for 104-5, moving all the way downtown. They had to have had this one coupled up with KMAZ from the start, and just flipped on the power this morning.

Mouse, KTBZ is in HD. However, IF 104-5 was really rebroadcasting KTBZ's HD, we'd currently be hearing either The Buzz or Rock 94-5. It's far from either. Another one that appears to be originating its own programming.
 
I wonder... Now that a reasonably good, new citywide signal is available, is there a plan to sell this signal to one of the large corporate broadcasters to rebroadcast an HD sub-channel? Could the presence of KTBZ be a hint? Iheart Media is running translators in what seems to be everywhere but Houston.
 
purpledevil said:
http://fccdata.org/?facid=146522

104-5 is broadcasting from Chase, that's why it's crystal clear near the airport. From the house, it's absolutely smoking. Disconnected the antenna from my receiver, and STILL get 104-5 in the house. I can't even do that with the Mo. City sticks.
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I do not think it can possibly be on Chase as there is not even a CP for that location. What shows in the FCC data is an application, filed just last month.

I never saw this latest amendment for 104-5, moving all the way downtown.
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It is not an "ammendment". It's an application for a CP to move from the location they just moved to; it is a double hop move into downtown, only one of which is an actual CP... the one in Alvin.
 
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stevenNOLA said:
I wonder... Now that a reasonably good, new citywide signal is available, is there a plan to sell this signal to one of the large corporate broadcasters to rebroadcast an HD sub-channel? Could the presence of KTBZ be a hint? Iheart Media is running translators in what seems to be everywhere but Houston.
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Citywide? In a market of 6.4 million, the current CP only covers 400 thousand people with a 65 dbu signal. While the filing for yet another move will cover more people, it will still be a small fraction of the total market.
 
stevenNOLA said:
It covers a lot more area than it does on paper. Spotless signal inside the beltway to the north and west sides.
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A good car radio will pick up signals down to around 50 dbu. But it takes a good 65 dbu to get in-home and at-work indoors listening... and that is 2/3 of all listening.

I can't tell you how many bad signals have been bought by folks who "drove the signal" and thought that a station covered a market, when the non-car listening was nearly impossible due to low signal strength. Whenever I did due diligence on an FM, I would also "drive the signal" but with a consumer boom box in the passenger seat with the antenna extended no more than the bottom of the car windows. That emulates indoors listening even when driving.
 
JoeFM said:
Wherever this translator is broadcasting from is covering very well. It was penetrating inside MD Anderson...and not many of the other Houston stations were doing that. This afternoon I had it clearly at BW8 and 249. Its clear at my residence in Mo City. And I agree with David. Unless something has been granted that doesn't yet show up in the CDBS, the only place that this signal can legally originate from is Alvin.
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The Alvin CP states that it is at 980 feet or so, nice height even with 250 watts. That will be a good signal for a portion of the market, but not good for much else.
 
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Clean, clear signal from K283CH on a portable radio inside my house in Cy-Fair. I'm about 18 miles from the Chase tower, but 39 miles from the Alvin site. Unless major tropo is kicking up, this appears to be from the downtown site.

Thought this might be a simulcast of the 94.1 translator, but checking both signals, they are different.

BTW, KMAZ is on the Wells Fargo tower, not Chase.
 
JoeFM said:
And thats the catch. No one can prove where its coming from.
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Sure they can. Most station groups have at least on FM intensity meter, and it can be put in a car and driven over a grid, automatically taking readings which are then plotted against mapping software.

Of course, such a piece of gear costs about 100 times or more what an illegal Chinese transmitter goes for, so you probably have not seen one.
 
So my question is, is Cesar Agusto involved in all this since he has a show on 94.1? I wonder how all the donators that gave money feel about this? Or does Mr Guevara think no one will find out that he has a station that is being paid with church donations? And like many have said here WHAT IS THIS STATION TRANSLATING? Because 91.1 and 94.1 are still broadcasting as LA NUEVA.
 
DavidEduardo said:


Sure they can. Most station groups have at least on FM intensity meter, and it can be put in a car and driven over a grid, automatically taking readings which are then plotted against mapping software.

Of course, such a piece of gear costs about 100 times or more what an illegal Chinese transmitter goes for, so you probably have not seen one.
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Lol...........
 
JoeFM said:
Sure I have. A good friend of mine has one. See pic. Not the modern digital ones currently in use, but very much in working order....
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Not even close. Look at http://www.audemat.com/radio-products-10-9.html

That's what is used for complete mapping of contours, including directionals. In this case, it will provide a very detailed map that will show if a station is operating from a site that is not licensed or under a CP.

This is not triangulation. Essentially, you drive a grid, and the Audemat takes readings all along the route, and you can have it discard readings that are aberrations (such as those caused by multipath or reflections) and create a very accurate contour map with thousands of points of data. Each reading has precise GPS coordinates. It will do in a day or two what might take weeks and weeks of stop-park-setup-measure-drive-to-another-point which would have far fewer points.

lBut my point here was not that it can't be triangulated. Anyone can do it. But their testimony wouldn't be relevant in an investigation. Only an FCC agent using duly approved field gear is admissible. A complaint will have to be made. They'll have to send someone down from Dallas to look into it. That agent will have to use his own equipment to find the violation. Then a NOV will be prepared.
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You are not an FCC employee, nor a communications attorney so you don't know the procedure in the event of a claim that a licensed station has moved its transmitter. Since your world is the gray area of pseudo-pirate stations and unlicensed operations, it is understandable that you would not know this.
 
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