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"LGBT" TV shows

Logo is an LGBT network with a worthy mission and good shows like RuPaul's Drag Race; unlike most of their networks, like Comedy Central it's one of the few Viacom hasn't screwed up.

It shows reruns of "Bewitched" just because Dick York was gay, although the show had no gay plotlines at all. Geez, why not show "Perry Mason," then? It also shows "Golden Girls," for reasons I cannot fathom. Isn't there enough programming that directly targets the LGBT viewer without shows like those?
 
It shows reruns of "Bewitched" just because Dick York was gay.

You've confused the Dicks. Seargant was gay, York was straight and married up until his death. You're also leaving out Paul Lynde.
 
You've confused the Dicks. Seargant was gay, York was straight and married up until his death. You're also leaving out Paul Lynde.

Also one of the twins that played Tabitha, and (reportedly, but disputed) Agnes Moorehead.
 
It shows reruns of "Bewitched" just because Dick York was gay, although the show had no gay plotlines at all. Geez, why not show "Perry Mason," then? It also shows "Golden Girls," for reasons I cannot fathom. Isn't there enough programming that directly targets the LGBT viewer without shows like those?

The Golden Girls has a large following in the LGBT community.
 
It shows reruns of "Bewitched" just because Dick York was gay, although the show had no gay plotlines at all. Geez, why not show "Perry Mason," then? It also shows "Golden Girls," for reasons I cannot fathom. Isn't there enough programming that directly targets the LGBT viewer without shows like those?

Didn't the Golden Girls have a gay housekeeper in the first season? I don't see how Facts of Life appeals to the LGBT community
 
It shows reruns of "Bewitched" just because Dick York was gay, although the show had no gay plotlines at all. Geez, why not show "Perry Mason," then? It also shows "Golden Girls," for reasons I cannot fathom. Isn't there enough programming that directly targets the LGBT viewer without shows like those?

"Bewitched" has a long gay history. Not only Dick Sargent (not Dick York), Paul Lynde, and Agnes Moorehead as cast members, but the whole concept is often viewed as 1960's gay allegory. Fabulous person who is different from everyone else is forced to assimilate and stay closeted, but in the end that fabulousness is what saves the day.

http://www.queerty.com/was-bewitched-the-most-progressive-gay-series-of-its-time-20141213
 
"Bewitched" has a long gay history. Not only Dick Sargent (not Dick York), Paul Lynde, and Agnes Moorehead as cast members, but the whole concept is often viewed as 1960's gay allegory. Fabulous person who is different from everyone else is forced to assimilate and stay closeted, but in the end that fabulousness is what saves the day.

That seems like a huge reach to me.
 
Yes . That's a stretch. Bewitched was a typical 60s sitcom designed for the masses as a night-time tranquilizer so people could laugh, engage in a little fantasy, and forget the problems of the day. I'm sure it was a coincidence that these 3 actors were gay, and nobody was trying to make it an 'allegory.' There were many actors from that era who were in the closet and we now know were gay or bi- (Cary Grant, Rock Hudson, etc.) I was a student at UCLA in the late 60s-early 70s, and took a few theatre arts classes - many of my aspiring actor classmates were clearly gay, with one foot in the closet, and one foot out.

I recall watching Paul Lynde on Hollywood Squares over the years. I recall that by the late 70s or early 80s, he was making gay jokes about himself. So even though he may never have disclosed it explicitly, he was outing himself with a nod and a wink constantly. I remember thinking it was quite daring for that time, though it wouldn't be now, of course.
 
Yes . That's a stretch. Bewitched was a typical 60s sitcom designed for the masses as a night-time tranquilizer so people could laugh, engage in a little fantasy, and forget the problems of the day. I'm sure it was a coincidence that these 3 actors were gay, and nobody was trying to make it an 'allegory.' There were many actors from that era who were in the closet and we now know were gay or bi- (Cary Grant, Rock Hudson, etc.) I was a student at UCLA in the late 60s-early 70s, and took a few theatre arts classes - many of my aspiring actor classmates were clearly gay, with one foot in the closet, and one foot out.

I recall watching Paul Lynde on Hollywood Squares over the years. I recall that by the late 70s or early 80s, he was making gay jokes about himself. So even though he may never have disclosed it explicitly, he was outing himself with a nod and a wink constantly. I remember thinking it was quite daring for that time, though it wouldn't be now, of course.

Believe it or not, even as a teenager watching "Squares," I thought Lynde was a straight guy doing a gay shtick. Of course, there weren't nearly as many "out" gays back then and the fact that they were so plentiful in show biz wasn't commonly known.

I also agree that "Bewitched" as gay allegory is far-fetched. As I inferred in my previous post, you might as well call "Perry Mason" gay allegory simply because Raymond Burr was its star, although I'm not sure how many viewers even suspected Burr was gay, as he was about as far back in the proverbial closet as one could get.
 
Believe it or not, even as a teenager watching "Squares," I thought Lynde was a straight guy doing a gay shtick. Of course, there weren't nearly as many "out" gays back then and the fact that they were so plentiful in show biz wasn't commonly known.

I also agree that "Bewitched" as gay allegory is far-fetched. As I inferred in my previous post, you might as well call "Perry Mason" gay allegory simply because Raymond Burr was its star, although I'm not sure how many viewers even suspected Burr was gay, as he was about as far back in the proverbial closet as one could get.

I remember knowing Burr was gay as far back as the 80s - but that may be because he lived near me in Sonoma County, and was not "in the closet" locally.He met his longtime companion (Robert Benevides) in 1960 while working on Perry Mason, and they were a couple until Burr's death in the mid 90s. They would likely be married these days. They operated a winery, which Benevides named the "Raymond Burr" winery after the actor's death.
 
Not all shows have gay characters, just a gay following. For example, they have shown "Scrubs" and "Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23" (two of my favorites) along with "Daria" and the movie "Groundhog Day" which do not have to do with homosexuality.
 
Not all shows have gay characters, just a gay following. For example, they have shown "Scrubs" and "Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23" (two of my favorites) along with "Daria" and the movie "Groundhog Day" which do not have to do with homosexuality.

If Daria isn't a closet lesbian, I'll eat a rainbow flag. :p
 
Yes . That's a stretch. Bewitched was a typical 60s sitcom designed for the masses as a night-time tranquilizer so people could laugh, engage in a little fantasy, and forget the problems of the day. I'm sure it was a coincidence that these 3 actors were gay, and nobody was trying to make it an 'allegory.' There were many actors from that era who were in the closet and we now know were gay or bi- (Cary Grant, Rock Hudson, etc.) I was a student at UCLA in the late 60s-early 70s, and took a few theatre arts classes - many of my aspiring actor classmates were clearly gay, with one foot in the closet, and one foot out.

I recall watching Paul Lynde on Hollywood Squares over the years. I recall that by the late 70s or early 80s, he was making gay jokes about himself. So even though he may never have disclosed it explicitly, he was outing himself with a nod and a wink constantly. I remember thinking it was quite daring for that time, though it wouldn't be now, of course.

Cary Grant never admitted to being gay and sued Chevy Chase for saying so. There's nothing concrete to prove it and he was married five times, so let's focus on things that are, rather than might be. (It's sort of like a Robert Kennedy quote in reverse.) :)
 
Cary Grant never admitted to being gay and sued Chevy Chase for saying so. There's nothing concrete to prove it and he was married five times, so let's focus on things that are, rather than might be. (It's sort of like a Robert Kennedy quote in reverse.) :)

I'm not trying to besmirch Cary Grant's good name, but there are lots of old Hollywood stories to that effect - Chevy Chase didn't make them up. I don't care if he was gay, or more likely bi-sexual as are many people in and out of show-biz....not that there's anything wrong with that.
(Seinfeld reference intended)
 
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