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AM Frequency of the week-810khz

cyberdad

cyberdad

So what do you guys get on 810?

Here in the far northwest suburbs of Chicago days, it's an mix of moderate splatter from 820 WCPT and some "residual" hiss from WBBM's iboc.

Around sunset, 50KW WSJC from Maggee, MS, sometimes turns up. As does WHB. Neither very often.

Nights it's usually WGY with a fair, but generally reliable signal. Sometimes with unidentifiable stuff underneath. We're right in WHB's deep nighttime null, so they're absent. I don't think I've ever heard them. I've never heard the Bahamas station or KGO here either.
 
Day - KTBI Ephrata, WA.
Night - KGO SF. Have tried for WGY/WHB for years to no avail, yet.
Sunset/Sunrise - KGO, and sometimes KBHB Sturgis, SD which mainly pops up at sunrise on dead of winter mornings. Would like CKJS one of these days!

-crainbebo
 
Days it's a weak WSYW from Indy.

Nights it is WGY.

During sunrise and sunset I've heard the following...
WSJC Magee MS (they are running a reduced power, 1KW?, these days)
WQIZ St. George SC
WHB Kansas City MO
WPIN Dublin VA
ZNS3 Freeport Bahamas

I should listen to this frequency during the transition hours as there are a number of other "catchable" daytime stations that I haven't heard.
 
In the near north Chicago suburbs my observations of 810 are very similar to Cyberdad's. Daytime, splatter from 820. At night mostly a good solid WGY. I've heard KC at critical hours since it was KCMO before the swap with WHB. Always wanted to snag KGO here, but never have heard it at this location.
 
Around Columbus, Ohio ...
- Daytime: Nothing but splatter from WVSG, the former WOSU now airing St. Gabriel Catholic Radio on 820.
- Night: Always WGY, but one time several years ago (I want to say this was around 2006) it was quite a clash of signals between WGY and WHB. It is the only time I've ever heard Kansas City here. When I lived in Houston, that was it on 810.
 
I'm surprised that no one mentioned WJPW/WMJH 810 in Rockford, MI. It's 3600 watts daytime, including CH, but has a pretty limited groundwave signal due to conductivity issues. Daytime skywave should reach the ORD Area (NW Chicago Area, but a new shorthand I may use), especially in the winter during Critical Hours. Of course, there is WAIT/WCPT on 820, but the new Chicago Day TL should be weaker out that way. WAIT 820 used to have a great antenna site in Elmhurst, exceeding the WMAQ/WSCR Auxiliary (5 kW the last I knew) FI in SE Michigan before the triangulation became difficult with CHAM AND WOSU.
 
Schroedingers Cat said:
WAIT 820 used to have a great antenna site in Elmhurst, exceeding the WMAQ/WSCR Auxiliary (5 kW the last I knew) FI in SE Michigan before the triangulation became difficult with CHAM AND WOSU.
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Ah.....the old "chicken farm" site. In my experience and opinion, the signal on WAIT 820 was noticeably better from that location than in subsequent "incarnations". Not that the current day site does a bad job. I believe that's just off Irving Park Road on Chicago's northwest side and diplexed with WSBC (1240). And as for the WCPT night signal from the Willow Springs site, all things considered, I think they do about as well as could be expected given the constraints of having to protect WBAP.

The 810 in Rockford, MI? I've never heard it here. Although admittedly I haven't hung out on 810 all that much.

Finally, crainbebo, I think WGY and WHB would be tough duty where you are. Just my own observation, but I don't think WGY gets out quite as well as the other 50kw ND stations that are regulars here. As for WHB/KCMO, that's one of those that if you're in the nighttime lobe, you get a great signal. If not, it becomes very difficult. However, the ND day signal is very good, so that might be your chance during critical hours.
 
Used to be local WSJC Magee, MS with "Alabama 810" WCKA in the background in the late afternoon. WSJC has been off the air for ages. It signs on at reduced power once a year just to keep the license. From what I understand the Seventh Adventist owner were asking too much for the station and won't sell it.
At night it's mostly slop in central Mississippi with Kansas City ex KCMO now WHB sometimes in the background.
 
Here in Port Alexander, AK 810 is a fairly decent (But not impressive) skywave signal from KGO at night. Forget it during the day, though.
 
Daytime - Nothing.

Nighttime - KGO Surprising, considering their directional pattern.

It's not as strong as KNBR but audible most of the time.
 
Interesting to note. Especially back before so many electronic "things" that make hash on the AM band!

Does anyone in/around Atascadero, CA know if KGO can be heard during the day there, and how strongly? I know I heard it once at night, at (I'd say) similar signal strength to here.
 
Here in Derby, England, UK

Nothing* during the day, BBC Radio Scotland pretty clear at night.

Unlike England, Scotland doesn't have BBC local radio, just one station for the whole country. It uses high power AM transmitters and easily reaches well into England at night.



* A good receiver will get a weak radio Scotland signal by day, barely strong enough to listen but easily ID-able.
 
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BMR, your post got me to wondering more about something I have wondered about before ... ground conductivity in western Europe as opposed to here in the U.S. (i.e. London and Paris are only 200 or so miles apart as the crow flies, so would a 50K station from either city get to the other?).
As for 810 AM, same observations as those from 18 months earlier in this thread. Nothing has changed here around Columbus, Ohio.
 
schmave said:
BMR, your post got me to wondering more about something I have wondered about before ... ground conductivity in western Europe as opposed to here in the U.S. (i.e. London and Paris are only 200 or so miles apart as the crow flies, so would a 50K station from either city get to the other?).
As for 810 AM, same observations as those from 18 months earlier in this thread. Nothing has changed here around Columbus, Ohio.
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I can answer some this from my experiences in my 12 years as of being in the UK and parts of mainland Europe once or twice every year. Mostly in the 2000s. You can go online and find maps, but in a nutshell, most of England ranges primarily "4" to "8". The "low countries" of northwest Europe are somewhat higher.

Several stations from the continent are (or were) audible 24/7 in Central London. Most distant in my experience was Germany, which, If I remember correctly was on 549. Two Dutch stations had the best continent signals in London....675 and 747. 675 was an excellent classic rock station "The Arrow", with most of the music being familliar stuff in English. Both are now dark. In Paris, the BBC blowtorches on 648 and 693 were easy anytime in noise-free areas. London had/has a 97kw station on 1548 "Capital Gold" (oldies) directional to the southeast. I'd hear it quite often during the day in southern Germany....presumably via daytime skywave. In the other direction, my wife and I liked to sometimes spend a day or two in the Cotswolds, a resort area about 90 miles north-northwest of London. 1548 was barely audible up there, but 648 and 693 were not all that much different than in the city.

As for the 810 in Scotland. That was a monster. Excellent day signal in Scotland, and also excellent and reliable at night in London. Still good and still reliable IME in Germany.
 
radioman148 said:
Gar,

Have you heard KCBS? If so how does it compare to KGO?
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I've never heard KCBS here.

What I get on 740 is a fairly good signal from KCIK in Kihei.

Sometimes, there's a weak station underneath but It doesn't sound like KCBS. That's weird because I don't know what other station it could possibly be.
 
hawaiigar said:
I've never heard KCBS here.

What I get on 740 is a fairly good signal from KCIK in Kihei.

Sometimes, there's a weak station underneath but It doesn't sound like KCBS. That's weird because I don't know what other station it could possibly be.
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Could it be KTRH? They protect so many things North, but South they are heard all over South America. Hawaii might get some of that signal, because it is not in any of the nulls.
 
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