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Any local stations still air cartoons?
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Telexitos (subchannel seen on Telemundo affiliates) shows He-Man and She-Ra subbed in Spanish.
MundoMax shows Transformers on Sundays, again dubbed in Spanish.
MundoMax shows Transformers on Sundays, again dubbed in Spanish.
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K.M. Richards
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I sincerely doubt you're going to find any.
The daytime talk shows that have proliferated over the past few decades attract a much more desirable (in the "money demo") audience than cartoons would. Most of the ad dollars for products targeted at kids are going to the youth-oriented cable networks, and have for some time, because the cost per thousand viewers (CPM) is much lower than local television would be.
A handful of cartoons -- mainly from the 80s -- are running on some of the diginets. That's about as close as you're going to come to local stations running them.
The daytime talk shows that have proliferated over the past few decades attract a much more desirable (in the "money demo") audience than cartoons would. Most of the ad dollars for products targeted at kids are going to the youth-oriented cable networks, and have for some time, because the cost per thousand viewers (CPM) is much lower than local television would be.
A handful of cartoons -- mainly from the 80s -- are running on some of the diginets. That's about as close as you're going to come to local stations running them.
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Mario500
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What did you mean by "adult cartoons"?
The Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad!, King of the Hill, etc.
I think he meant ANIMATED SERIES.
There's probably a few indie stations still carrying 'worn to the plastic' Warner Bros. and Paramount cartoons in the public domain on old tapes complied by a station's programming department in the mid-80's. But even then most of the WB (not Hanna-Barbera), MGM and Paramount libraries are on YouTube, whether company uploaded or grey-market, so who wants to watch those with Bathfitter ads all over the place?
I know WITI in Milwaukee airs Rocky & Bullwinkle here and there in dead spots when the house flippers aren't in town gobbling every infomercial timeslot, and they even have RKO General-era colorized pictures early Sunday mornings. Outside of that though, unless it has an E/I logo in the corner, it ain't airing on a broadcast station. Even the Program Exchange, which distributes R&B and fills quite a few Sinclair stations with their product, is down solely to Jay Ward product animation-wise.
I know WITI in Milwaukee airs Rocky & Bullwinkle here and there in dead spots when the house flippers aren't in town gobbling every infomercial timeslot, and they even have RKO General-era colorized pictures early Sunday mornings. Outside of that though, unless it has an E/I logo in the corner, it ain't airing on a broadcast station. Even the Program Exchange, which distributes R&B and fills quite a few Sinclair stations with their product, is down solely to Jay Ward product animation-wise.
Don't forget South Park though. But then again its rare for local TV stations or networks like CBS or CW to air cartoons. The last cartoons to air on CBS and CW stations was back in 2012-2013 and that got replaced by the CBS dream team with e/I labels sent to CBS O&O's and CW Stations managed by CBS. Mainly you would have to look for NetFlix, Crackle, Hulu, YouTube, Vimeo and Dailymotion apps and check for specific cartoons you are looking for.
Well the only local TV stations that I can think of that airs cartoons today are PBS affiliates such as KQED + in the Bay area they air kids programming under the PBS kids name and probably most of that audience went to PBS Kids apps to watch those shows.
This is purely a guess:
Cartoon Network and other cable networks have purchased the rights to the classic cartoons.
There is nothing left for the over-the-air networks (and stations).
Cartoon Network and other cable networks have purchased the rights to the classic cartoons.
There is nothing left for the over-the-air networks (and stations).
Cartoon Network only has the rights to Warner Bros, MGM, and Hanna Barbara cartoons. Viacom (Nickeloden) currently only has rights to a few Classic animated shows (Star Trek, Harlem Globetrotters, Mighty Mouse), but does little with them. Disney is pretty much letting all of its 20th century animated TV Library gather dust in the vault. As for the rest, it just takes one distributer to find a way to repackage shows for a 21st century audience, and offer them to stations.
I think it's more that Time-Warner, who probably owns about 80% of all classic cartoons now -- other than those made by Disney, Fleischer/Paramount, and Jay Ward -- wants to sell DVDs full of them and/or air them on Boomerang, rather than continuing to sell them for peanuts to local stations who probably would get little to no ad support for them. Many are also on YouTube now.
Also, most of the classic cartoons are extremely dated. Most kids today won't get all the old-time radio (and early TV), big band, 1930s actors, and World War II references that many of them had. Remember, most of the classics shown in theatres were made before the end of the 1950s. Only Walter Lantz (shut down in 1972), MGM (via Gene Deitch's & Chuck Jones' 1960s Tom & Jerry shorts), and WB (quit in 1969, a shadow of its pre-1960 self) survived into the '60s and later. Of the made-for-TV cartoons, TW owns the Hanna-Barbera stuff, and isn't letting go of any of it.
The ones that Boomerang does air have little if any of that ancient subject matter, and as such, can air today -- especially Coyote/Road Runner & Sylvester/Tweety shorts. It's also why there's about 8 hours or so of Tom & Jerry and another 8 of Scooby Doo on that channel -- no topical references.
Here's the Winston ad from The Flintstones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZvHiiWFbBU
KeithE4 is pretty well right about what TW owns. The older Fleischer and Paramount cartoons have fallen into Public Domain. A lot of them along with older WB cartoons can be found on streaming channels on Roku. There are some Disney cartoons available on Netflix but not a lot.
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Kind of makes your jaw drop, doesn't it?
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