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SBE Urges FCC to Reduce MW Noise...

It's really way too late to begin to fix 30 years of problems, and Chinese electronics manufacturers are not going to co-operate.
 
TheBigA said:
It's really way too late to begin to fix 30 years of problems, and Chinese electronics manufacturers are not going to co-operate.
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Nor is the US going to stop importing them.
 
Why are so many people on these boards so concerned with an antiquated technology?
The rest of the world seems to have implemented an effective solution:
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ai4i said:
Why are so many people on these boards so concerned with an antiquated technology?
The rest of the world seems to have implemented an effective solution:
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Great. Tell that to the FCC. Our government isn't as advanced as those in other countries.
 
Do not blame the commission for this one.
The industry was adamant about protecting stick values.
The full "class C" FMs would never tolerate having graveyard channel AMs having equal signals.
(is it OK to use "having" twice in the same sentence?)
 
ai4i said:
Do not blame the commission for this one.
The industry was adamant about protecting stick values.
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Who owns the frequencies? The government or the industry? Who is supposed to regulate? The government or the industry?

What happens in a vacuum? The government has been asleep for 30 years, and hasn't done squat for technical improvements to broadcasting.

Yes, I blame the commission. If they don't do their job, they're to blame.
 
ai4i said:
Why are so many people on these boards so concerned with an antiquated technology?
The rest of the world seems to have implemented an effective solution:
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The rest of the world? Or do you really mean "a couple of countries in Europe which coincidentally have major state-run radio operations"?
 
TheBigA said:
Who owns the frequencies?
The government or the industry?
Who is supposed to regulate?
The government or the industry?
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We have the best government that money can buy.
If you do not like it, you are free to pay the commissioners more than the NAB does.
Are you familiar with the term, revolving door as it relates to this?
 
ai4i said:
We have the best government that money can buy.
If you do not like it, you are free to pay the commissioners more than the NAB does.
Are you familiar with the term, revolving door as it relates to this?
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I'm not the one who brought up DAB. You are. So if you want DAB to work here, then YOU need to pay off some people. Not me.

If DAB was so much better, the public would clamor for it, and there'd be some greedy person who'd find a way to make money from it. Just the way other new technologies are taking money and audience away from traditional radio, regardless of what the radio industry does. But obviously the public is very satisfied with the options available here. And from what I've seen, DAB isn't much of a popular success.
 
DavidEduardo said:

The rest of the world? Or do you really mean "a couple of countries in Europe which coincidentally have major state-run radio operations"?
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What ever the motivation is, DAB is a superior technology.
 
TheBigA said:
I'm not the one who brought up DAB. You are. So if you want DAB to work here, then YOU need to pay off some people. Not me.

If DAB was so much better, the public would clamor for it, and there'd be some greedy person who'd find a way to make money from it. Just the way other new technologies are taking money and audience away from traditional radio, regardless of what the radio industry does. But obviously the public is very satisfied with the options available here. And from what I've seen, DAB isn't much of a popular success.
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Do you have to be "greedy" in order to be motivated by personal profit.
 
ai4i said:
What ever the motivation is, DAB is a superior technology.
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It is a good technology for places where national broadcasting with little local content is the rule. That is why the principal successes of DAB have occurred in places like England and Finland where there has never been much local radio and government stations have been the basis for national content networks with later commercial ventures generally following the same national model.

The US model is based on local revenue, including local events and content. The European model involves replicating one channel on the same DAB frequency across an entire nation.

Whether it is Finland or Spain, the vast, overwhelming majority of listening is to stations that originate from one capital-city facility and are rebroadcast nationally. For that purpose, DAB transmitters are situated not by market but by coverage objectives that include the whole nation.

Note that DAB did not work and was abandoned in Canada, where the model for broadcasting is much closer to that of the US than it is to that of Europe.
 
I remember what happened in Canada,
but 79% of all the digital radio stations in London are private, non-Beeb.
The Beeb was the motivating force to institute a technology that benefit's everyone.
 
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ai4i said:
I remember what happened in Canada,
but 79% of all the digital radio stations in London are private, non-Beeb:
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But when you look at the initiation, the driving force was the Bebe. The other stations just came in to remain competitive.
 
DavidEduardo said:

But when you look at the initiation, the driving force was the Bebe.
The other stations just came in to remain competitive.
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I know, I included that in my post.
At this point, the closest thing that we could ever get to that would be something like LudwigEnt, using the equivalent of DAB bouquets on ATSC sub-channels, but those would not be to relay local broadcasters but would all be proprietary channels similar to SiriusXM, but with a different objective, plus they have been floundering for many years.
 
The reason DAB wouldn't work here is there are too many stations per major metro to make it work well.

I think Mr. Eduardo mentioned the case of Los Angeles in another thread on DAB.

AS for the original post, it would be great if the FCC actually enforced the RFI rules. Most people get new electronics to replace the old-fashioned ones from 5 years previous -- devices that either aren't "cool and new" anymore, or burn out. So if (in an alternate universe) the RFI rules were actually enforced, within 5 years things would probably improve a bit. That wouldn't mean the AM band would start making millions more dollars. But it would improve the situation, making the AMers left on the dial more interference free.
 
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