Smallest markets with HD newscasts and largest ones without

[mvcg66b3r]

This is a sister thread to http://www.radiodiscussions.com/sho...h-a-news-chopper-amp-the-largest-ones-without

Which do you think is the smallest market with at least one HD newscast? And are there any larger markets without any HD newscasts?

 

[Mr Tony]

I assume you are referring to full HD and not "digital widescreen" which is 480i 16x9?
I know lots of stations in small markets do 480i 16x9 for news. Also unless someone can truly confirm that a market (small one) has news in HD we can't got by zap2it which randomly shows it.
As for large markets are your question is weird. "without any HD newscsasts." So do you mean none at all or a Big 4 Network not having news in HD?

Anywho

small markets that have true HD newscasts
197 Cheyenne/Scottsbluff...when Gray launched the NBC Scottsbluff they said that news was in HD...so KNEP-DT2 and KSTF-DT2 (same station) has news in HD

199 Mankato, MN for sure does on their CBS station. I can pick it up and at the beginning it says "KEYC HD High Definition"...until they went HD a year or so ago it was 480i with black bars (below is a screen shot from 6/11 10:00 newscast (KEYC comes in now and then...its 75 miles away)

As for big markets...Minneapolis market 15 KSTP ABC news is in 480i 16x9 widescreen. This has been confirmed numerous times by a friend who works there. "All local programming is in 480i widescreen"

 

[Prescott Joe]

As for big markets...Minneapolis market 15 KSTP ABC news is in 480i 16x9 widescreen. This has been confirmed numerous times by a friend who works there. "All local programming is in 480i widescreen"

That is incredible!!!! Surprising ABC doesn't move it's affiliation to another station in the Miniapples
market.

 

[mvcg66b3r]

That is incredible!!!! Surprising ABC doesn't move it's affiliation to another station in the Miniapples
market.

They have nowhere to go, except with say, Sinclair/WUCW. We don't want to have another KDNL on our hands. And I assume local programming in SD widescreen includes syndicated shows as well.

BTW, when I said "without any HD newscasts", I meant none at all within the market.

 

[Mr Tony]

That is incredible!!!! Surprising ABC doesn't move it's affiliation to another station in the Miniapples
market.

Why? Because local news is in SD? Wont happen for a few reasons
-They've been ABC since 1979
-Hubbard owns all the ABC stations licensed to MN
--KSTP Minneapolis (and satellites KSAX Alexandria and KRWF Redwood Falls)
--WDIO Duluth (and satellite WIRT Hibing)
--KAAL Austin/Albert Lea/Rochester

All 3 do newscasts in 480i widescreen. But they are upconverted to 720p (when you watch it OTA it says 720p)

 

[Mr Tony]

And I assume local programming in SD widescreen includes syndicated shows as well.

nope. You ASSumed wrong. Syndicated programming is in HD. And that syndicated programming is minimal weekdays.
Kelly at 9
Meredith at 2
Millionaire at 4

News is from 11-noon, 4:30-5:30, 6-7 and 10-10:35 and the below mentioned TCL is 3-4.

Its only the local news and the local "Twin Cities Live" program that is shot in 480i widescreen. Everything else is in true 720p HD.

BTW, when I said "without any HD newscasts", I meant none at all within the market.

you'd probably be looking market 100 or lower to get a result like that.

 

[Mr Tony]

The thing is unless you see black bars on the side or they that its "digital widescreen" you don't truly know if its in HD.
FOX 21 (KQDS) in Duluth is the only possible one in Duluth that could be HD and that's because they went from black bars to full screen a year or so ago (and sister station KVRR Fargo said they upgraded their newsroom for HD). KBJR NBC and KDLH CBS (owned/run by same folks) say "digital widescreen" at the beginning of the newscast and WDIO uses the same logic as "mothership" KSTP