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Stations that simulcast their subchannels

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While seeing family back in Eastern Washington this weekend (Hi Cranebo:) ), I noticed something weird about the local TV channels. KAPP 35.1 Yakima is an ABC affiliate; its subchannel 35.2 is MeTV. The odd thing that you'd sometimes see both channels airing MeTV; "Gilligan" and "Dobie Gillis" in the wee hours, "Quincy" in an 11am slot. Have you ever seen two digital stations airing the same thing, and has it come from the main channel or the subchannel?
 
Our local NBC, WCBD in Charleston has a CW subchannel and they sometimes used to do that. They'd simulcast ther noon newscast and air it on both NBC and CW. They also both ran Wendy Williams at the same time in addition to Andy Griffith when it was on at 12:30pm.

Now they don't do that as most of their programming is CW's national feed except for an additional 30 minute 7am news which they ran, a rebroadcast of the NBC's 6pm news at 10pm, and once a year when they run the Carolina Children's Charity Telethon on the main channel and whatever NBC has is pushed there.
 
For a month or so a couple of years ago I discovered WHKY in the Charlotte NC market was airing "The Real McCoys". I really liked that. Some days they would air informercials for similar content even though the listings still said "The Real MCoys". But they constantly reminded us that their .2 channel was RFD-TV and said the show was there. So just for those 30 minutes, it's possible they were doing that.

But his station is way too far away for me to watch with an antenna, and the package that would include the .2 channel, if such a package even exists, would be out of my range.
 
How about delayed simulcasting? Channel 3 here in Phoenix rebroadcasts its morning news programs on 3.2. Not sure how many people find this informative - especially the weather and traffic segments which tend to be hours out of date.

There is way too much "news" on local TV these days and what there is isn't really informative or necessary. Just how many "feel good" or car crash stories do I need to see to start my day? The other day we had a rare morning thunderstorm here. Yes, it was a strong storm and yes, it needed to be reported - especially as it affected traffic, but no, it did not need to take up a solid hour. Ridiculous!!!!
 
In the Quad Cities, KGCW originates on channel 26-1 and used to simulcast in SD on 18-2. But then Nexstar bought the station and now it broadcasts on channel 4-2 'cuz Nexstar also owns WHBF-TV, whereas Marshall Broadcasting now owns KLJB Fox 18...
 
HawkeyeST said:
In the Quad Cities, KGCW originates on channel 26-1 and used to simulcast in SD on 18-2. But then Nexstar bought the station and now it broadcasts on channel 4-2 'cuz Nexstar also owns WHBF-TV, whereas Marshall Broadcasting now owns KLJB Fox 18...
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Now that you mention it, KCPQ (Seattle's Fox affiliate) airs its main SD signal on 13.1, and simulcasts their programs in HD on 22.2.
 
WBBJ in Jackson, TN in effect simulcasts the same programming from ABC on 7.1 on 7.2, which is a total waste. They say that 7.2 is supposed to be the same video from 7.1 with secondary audio for Spanish on 7.2, but it almost never happens. Meanwhile they carry CBS with Me TV for filler on 7.3. They claim they don't have the bandwidth to make Me TV a full time subchannel, but other Bahakel owned stations have managed to do it. They claim they plan to make Me TV full time, but it's been over 3 and a half years and it hasn't happened yet. :mad:

If WBBJ's management had any sense they would drop 7.2 and adjust the bandwidth to carry ABC on 7.1, CBS on 7.2 (both in HD) and Me TV on 7.3. But they won't get off their wallets to make that happen. :mad:
 
Panama City: WECP/channel 18 (CBS) is in 1080i but is retransmitted on the second subcarrier of WJHG/channel 7 (NBC) in 480i. The upshot of all this is while WECP transmits at low power 15kw, the WJHG subcarrier is full power at 67kw.
 
landtuna - I'm not sure if you're aware, but channel 3 has been doing this for years, but only for Cox Cable Systems in the Phoenix Metro. Those of us NOT on cable can now see the morning show on OUR schedule until the next live program is on.

They only electronically delay the seven a.m. to ten a.m. portion. The evening and overnight schedules aren't important for us, so I won't talk about it here.
 
mike847 said:
landtuna - I'm not sure if you're aware, but channel 3 has been doing this for years, but only for Cox Cable Systems in the Phoenix Metro. Those of us NOT on cable can now see the morning show on OUR schedule until the next live program is on.

They only electronically delay the seven a.m. to ten a.m. portion. The evening and overnight schedules aren't important for us, so I won't talk about it here.
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My understanding of a simulcast is airing the exact same programming on more than one outlet. If that is correct then KTVK isn't simulcasting their morning show - they are re-airing it on a loop throughout the day. I actually have watched some of the re-airs as my primary morning show is on KSAZ. I didn't find it particularly useful though.
 
to kinda drudge this one up here in Minneapolis KSTP (ABC) and co-owned KSTC (IND) will sometimes have shows that are normally carried on subchannels. I've seen (usually on KSTC but every now and then on KSTP)
Munsters (long before we got CoziTv here)
Addams Family
MASH

KSTC carries Me and ThisTV. Cozi is on a low powered station (KMBD-LD). What is funny is some Saturday nights at like 3AM KSTP will have Munsters and KSTC will have Addams Family (and ThisTV will have a diferent episodes of Addams Family.

Looking at the TV schedule this week KSTC has Munsters Saturday at 6:30PM and Addams Family is on Satuday night 3:05am. MASH is on randomly late night...and the episodes are in line with what MeTV is showing right now.(same season)

(KSTC also carries Andy Griffith daily...ironically they don't invoke syndex so on MeTV we get Andy also...instead of Matberry RFD or other substituted programming)
 
unclehonkey said:
to kinda drudge this one up here in Minneapolis KSTP (ABC) and co-owned KSTC (IND) will sometimes have shows that are normally carried on subchannels. I've seen (usually on KSTC but every now and then on KSTP)
Munsters (long before we got CoziTv here)
Addams Family
MASH

KSTC carries Me and ThisTV. Cozi is on a low powered station (KMBD-LD). What is funny is some Saturday nights at like 3AM KSTP will have Munsters and KSTC will have Addams Family (and ThisTV will have a diferent episodes of Addams Family.

Looking at the TV schedule this week KSTC has Munsters Saturday at 6:30PM and Addams Family is on Satuday night 3:05am. MASH is on randomly late night...and the episodes are in line with what MeTV is showing right now.(same season)

(KSTC also carries Andy Griffith daily...ironically they don't invoke syndex so on MeTV we get Andy also...instead of Matberry RFD or other substituted programming)
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Syndex isn't invoked because MeTV is on a subchannel of KSTC!
 
ftballfan said:
Syndex isn't invoked because MeTV is on a subchannel of KSTC!
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They could invoke syndex if they wanted so people cant see the episodes on MeTV and force them to see it on the local station. KSTC has had Andy on before they got the MeTV affiliation :)

I could have sworn I seen an example where that did happen because the station had carried Andy for decades
 
I don't know how I missed this but WBBJ in Jackson, TN dropped 7.2, which was in effect simulcasting 7.1, but like I posted in another thread, they aren't using it for anything now. They still haven't made Me TV a full time subchannel. According to Tripinva in the other thread they're locked into the bandwidth for CBS on 7.3 and I'd guess ABC on 7.1 , and there still isn't enough room to add Me TV. I still hope that some time in the future that WBBJ's management will be able to rearrange their bandwidth to pick up Me TV full time but I'm not holding my breath.
 
I completely missed this thread. Yes, KAPP and KVEW simulcast 35.2/42.2 in the overnight hours on weekends. Back in the old days, they were off the air during that time. Provides them with filler to air without infomercials or cutting the carrier. These two Eastern Washington ABC stations were the last in the market to sign off every night (they stopped doing that practice in 2012, adding World News Now to the lineup).
 
WHKY, which is mostly a religious station in Hickory NC that I was never able to watch until the digital transition made cable necessary, was airing reruns of "The Real McCoys" for a while. The station IDs and some of the commercials made it appear they were simulcasting the .2 channel at that time. I think the .2 channel was RFD-TV.
 
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