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New Signal On 100.7 MHz...

Appears to be from Kings Mountain, N.C.. Simulcasting 1450 WGNC. Not very strong and sporadic inside the Charlotte, NC Reception Area... Steve.
 
This Station was observed by me on Wednesday, November 2nd. The FCC granted them a Construction Permit on 10/20/16 and the permission to move from 100.7 MHz -to- 101.1 MHz. Power Output was boosted to 220 Watts ERP. That must have been some Engineering Job, to provide a decent signal for Gaston County, while also at the same time keeping the Translator completely out of South Carolina, so WROQ would not get interfered with. Yesterday, I tested out the "Fringe" Reception of W264CZ via I=77 N and S. While it does project a usable Signal into parts of Mecklenburg County, it is clear that this was specifically for Gastonia and Gaston County. If anyone is interested in seeing the Coverage Map, they can go here: <http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/patg?id=W264CZ-FX>

So WGNC now has a solid Translator for their weak AM Station (and I do mean weak!). However, this also means no ability to get WROQ 101.1 FM in the Charlotte Metro Area going forward.

Edit: I forgot to mention that as of this writing, several of their Promo's and Call-Sign Announcements still erroneously refer to the old 100.7 Frequency, and their Audio Feed cut off yesterday during their Broadcast. I guess they are still getting the "bugs" out of the new setup.

Steve.
 
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No big surprise since WROQ's COL is 130 miles away.

This is true. Not really a need to listen to WROQ in the Charlotte Area anyway these days, especially since it isn't even the Original "95Q The Album Station" that served Charlotte so many years ago. So no major loss it would seem.

Steve.
 
This is true. Not really a need to listen to WROQ in the Charlotte Area anyway these days, especially since it isn't even the Original "95Q The Album Station" that served Charlotte so many years ago. So no major loss it would seem.

Steve.

I definitely would rather listen to WROQ over WRFX any day. At least WROQ plays some Classic Rock songs you haven't heard a thousand times on FM radio unlike WRFX. I could previously listen to WROQ driving around Blowing Rock (with occasional interference from WYMY) until the Gastonia translator signed on, but it still comes in good at my house at least. On top of that, the 101.5 translator in Shelby has pretty much wiped out reception of WQUT here as well, so our selection of Classic Rock stations is dwindling as these translators keep signing on. But since I've been listening to satellite radio for the past year or so, it doesn't affect me too much.
 
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I definitely would rather listen to WROQ over WRFX any day. At least WROQ plays some Classic Rock songs you haven't heard a thousand times on FM radio unlike WRFX. I could previously listen to WROQ driving around Blowing Rock (with occasional interference from WYMY) until the Gastonia translator signed on, but it still comes in good at my house at least. On top of that, the 101.5 translator in Shelby has pretty much wiped out reception of WQUT here as well, so our selection of Classic Rock stations is dwindling as these translators keep signing on. But since I've been listening to satellite radio for the past year or so, it doesn't affect me too much.

Yet another case of an annoying translator wiping out the clear signal of a distant full power station. Looks like the broadcasters would appeal to the FCC to eliminate this nonsense. WROQ, now branded Rock 101, is a good classic rock station and they also carry John Boy and Billy and the Carolina Panthers. And also because of these translators, you can no longer receive B-93.7 and My 102.5 in Gastonia and Charlotte. And WLNK-107.9 has bad interference in Greenville, SC where it used to be clear.
 
Yet another case of an annoying translator wiping out the clear signal of a distant full power station.

FM was never intended to be a long distance service like AM. Typically the protected contour for FM is about 65-70 miles. This is 130 miles away serving a completely different market in a completely different state. No promise that this signal should reach Charlotte, and the station probably doesn't sell local advertising in Charlotte, so they don't care. Local radio is supposed to be local.
 
Most of our local and nearby FM stations suffer from interference here in Blowing Rock, but surprisingly it's mainly from more distant and/or weaker stations. However, that is simply because of the elevation and the terrain. Here are some examples with stations that should be strong or fairly strong here according to Radio Locator, but suffer from interference of some kind in certain spots:

96.9 WXBQ - 31.7 mi. --> WKKT - 66.1 mi.
100.7 WZJS - 9.5 mi. --> W264CU (WSIC) - 52.0 mi.
101.5 WQUT - 34.9 mi. --> W267CC (WOHS) - 56.4 mi.
103.3 WKVS - 13.8 mi. --> WRTH - 78.8 mi.
104.9 W285DG (WQUT) - 10.1 mi. --> WROO - 88.9 mi.
106.1 WMMY - 18.7 mi. --> WOLS - 99.4 mi.

There is an application for a WHKY translator on 102.3 in Hickory which would undoubtedly do the same thing to WWMY. I'm hopeful it won't, but these examples show otherwise.
 
Seriously? Back when I used to listen to WOLS, which was WNMX, WMMY would cause it no end of trouble in certain areas. Nowhere near Blowing Rock, either.

Oh yes, WOLS causes problems for sure. That's why I don't want the 102.3 translator to sign on in Hickory. If it does, BOTH frequencies for "The Highway" will be pretty much unlistenable in Blowing Rock.
 
FM was never intended to be a long distance service like AM. Typically the protected contour for FM is about 65-70 miles. This is 130 miles away serving a completely different market in a completely different state. No promise that this signal should reach Charlotte, and the station probably doesn't sell local advertising in Charlotte, so they don't care. Local radio is supposed to be local.

It is only in recent years that all these translators have gone on the air. I think the legal spacing in many cases is now about 60 miles, and perhaps that is what may have changed. Protecting 65 or 70 mile contours is a bit more reasonable. WLNK is 70 miles from many areas of Greenville County and should have been protected, as they previously had a very strong, clear signal. Now you have annoying interference and you can hear 2 stations on top of each other. This is a disservice to both stations as well as the listeners in Greenville County as 107.9 is now a problematic signal that is bad for both stations. The legal spacing may have looked good on paper to some bureaucrat in DC, but a real world investigation before approval would have told them otherwise. And stations have historically for years overlapped and served more than 1 market.

As for 130 miles, in the case of WROQ I agree that would be too far to protect unless their actual transmitter tower was with 65 or 70 miles.
 
The legal spacing may have looked good on paper to some bureaucrat in DC, but a real world investigation before approval would have told them otherwise. And stations have historically for years overlapped and served more than 1 market.

But that isn't the purpose of local radio, and it's not how these stations are sold. They sell to their local market. And if the interference prevents them from doing that, they can complain to the FCC. The law is written that full power stations are given priority. But NOT for distant coverage. That is counter to the concept of local radio. There is nothing being done by WLNK that can't also be done by a local station in Greenville.
 
Hi everyone, Scott Neisler here. I own WGNC in Gastonia and yes we were granted a translator during the AM Revitalization window. I purchased a translator from Greenville, SC and moved it to Crowders Mountain. We are required to keep the 60dBu signal of the FM within the 2mVa signal of our AM so I use a directional antenna because Crowders Mountain is on the west side of the 2mVa. It is pointed northeast. Translator ERP is capped at 250 watts and with my configuration I was able to broadcast at 240 watts. As we all know FM depends on line of sight, so being 488 meters AGL really gets the signal out.

It was broadcasting on 100.7 but we found that we were interfering with WSIC in Statesville, another translator on 100.7. It was unusual because they claimed we were booming into Troutman and knocking them out. Claiming this when I was having trouble reaching downtown Charlotte. Troutman is 45 miles away with Charlotte only 25 miles away. They also claimed to receive us as far away as Bermuda Run, a city half way between Statesville and Winston-Salem! I believe WSIC is having problems because they too broadcast at 250 watts ERP omnidirectional but were not getting out as close as 10 miles away. So in trying to be a good neighbor I applied for a move to the only other frequency that would fit in the Gastonia area, 101.1.

I believe this is a great solution, as we are now between two 100kW stations that are fringe areas in Gastonia and Charlotte. WROQ in Anderson, SC and WYMY in Burlington, NC, a spanish station. Obviously a 250 watt translator would not interfere with the big 100kW stations in their primary service areas. WROQ is an upstate SC station that comes in and out in our area which I feel makes them unlistenable in the long run.

There are bugs to work out because I use a Shoutcast stream to rebroadcast WGNC-AM to the transmitter, as I am required to do for 4 years. The internet connectivity is spotty sometimes. Also we are working on branding which would correct the old ID's and such. Just missed some in the change.

I hope everyone will enjoy the best in News, Talk, and Sports on AM 1450 WGNC and FM 101.1 (W266DC) as we have 3 of the top 5 talk show hosts in the country that will give the listeners a national perspective not found in the Gastonia, Charlotte area minus Rush on WBT. Thanks for listening!
 
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