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Miami Vice proposed to return to NBC

BD Sullivan said:
The host?

NBC really needs to gut their current creative department. They resort to reality junk and bringing back stuff like Will and Grace (along with this story) and then wonder why their ratings are in the toilet.
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I agree with you but the thing is...the millennials !! Most of them will not watch anything pre-2000. If a show was hot back in the 80's like Miami Vice to reach them I guess it has to be redone since they won't watch the original. The Chips movie recently was done I believe only to get millennials.
 
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Corky Marlowe said:
My first thought was, "Good luck getting Vin Diesel". At this point in his career, he likely wouldn't come cheap.
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His own production company is involved in the deal, which likely means he will share in any profits as well as syndication fees if the show reaches the point of having enough episodes for syndication.
 
RadioPatrol said:
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/miami-vice-reboot-nbc-vin-diesel-1202506455/

This time Vin Diesel is the host of Miami Vice.
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I think you mean "star" - not "host." Hawaii Five-O has done well, and the original was earlier than Miami Vice, IIRC - 5-0 started in the late 60s. I assume they wouldn't mention Vin Diesel unless he was ready to go with the project. I don't think the CHiPS film is germane. From what I understand, it was done as a parody - like 21 Jump Street.

I don't know why so many people are bothered by re-makes. Most TV police procedurals are derivative anyway. You know, CSI, and NCIS - they're derivative of each other, then you clone them for Miami, New Orleans, Los Angeles, etc., with a different cast. Consider Dick Wolf shows - he gave us a quarter century of New York, now he's flogging Chicago. It's all basically the same.
 
LKellerIII said:
I don't know why so many people are bothered by re-makes. Most TV police procedurals are derivative anyway. You know, CSI, and NCIS - they're derivative of each other, then you clone them for Miami, New Orleans, Los Angeles, etc., with a different cast. Consider Dick Wolf shows - he gave us a quarter century of New York, now he's flogging Chicago. It's all basically the same.
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It's a generation thing. Let's take Dragnet for example, To older adults the Jack Webb editions are "fine" and "timeless" but not to the younger generation as they wan't a NEW Dragnet and none of this Jack Webb stuff either. It's the same with game shows, Family Feud for example a lot of the older crowd liked Richard Dawson and Ray Combs and cannot stand Steve Harvey but to the younger crowd it's the other way around.
 
hamster said:
It's a generation thing. Let's take Dragnet for example, To older adults the Jack Webb editions are "fine" and "timeless" but not to the younger generation as they wan't a NEW Dragnet and none of this Jack Webb stuff either. It's the same with game shows, Family Feud for example a lot of the older crowd liked Richard Dawson and Ray Combs and cannot stand Steve Harvey but to the younger crowd it's the other way around.
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Well, I'm an older adult, and I don't find Dragnet "timeless" - I find it silly and dated. Especially the late 60s-70s version. Webb - a conservative, was into addressing a lot of social issues of the time - drug use, hippies, etc. - and did it melodramatically - the crazed hippie on LSD, the pot-smoking parents who let their kid drown in the bathtub because they were high, etc. Also, it was very cheaply made - you can see that a lot of the actors are reading cue cards because their eyes are looking off to the side. So I like to watch Dragnet on occasion - but mostly to laugh at it. And I'd be very surprised to hear that the "younger" generation wants a "New Dragnet." It was parodied in a film - Dan Aykroyd playing Joe Friday's son, IIRC - and that was in 1987 - 30 years ago.
 
LKellerIII said:
Well, I'm an older adult, and I don't find Dragnet "timeless" - I find it silly and dated. Especially the late 60s-70s version. Webb - a conservative, was into addressing a lot of social issues of the time - drug use, hippies, etc. - and did it melodramatically - the crazed hippie on LSD, the pot-smoking parents who let their kid drown in the bathtub because they were high, etc. Also, it was very cheaply made - you can see that a lot of the actors are reading cue cards because their eyes are looking off to the side. So I like to watch Dragnet on occasion - but mostly to laugh at it. And I'd be very surprised to hear that the "younger" generation wants a "New Dragnet." It was parodied in a film - Dan Aykroyd playing Joe Friday's son, IIRC - and that was in 1987 - 30 years ago.
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Jack Webb was no fan of the gay rights movement either. In at least two episodes of Dragnet Webb "warned" of acceptance of gays and how America would be doomed if there were gay cops. Webb died in December 1982 so he probably was still anti-drugs and anti-gay when he died.
 
One of Joe Friday's bosses also noted in one Dragnet episode spoke in disgusted terms about how "acceptance of homosexuals" (or words to that effect) had become commonplace. In the episode about the kid drowning because the parents were high, the father had earlier spoken about how marijuana laws would be changed, which causes Harry Morgan's character to dismiss it with a simple, "I doubt that."

To say those 60's episodes were cheaply made was an understatement. Webb and Harry Morgan wore the same clothes in virtually every episode in order to make it easier to use stock footage from previous episodes. Also, when they would visit a crime scene, many of their arrivals looked like they took place on the same street, LOL.

Finally, Alan Alda briefly talked about how Harry Morgan had given him a sense of just how no-nonsense Webb was on the set:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvINEYS50qE
 
BD Sullivan said:
One of Joe Friday's bosses also noted in one Dragnet episode spoke in disgusted terms about how "acceptance of homosexuals" (or words to that effect) had become commonplace. In the episode about the kid drowning because the parents were high, the father had earlier spoken about how marijuana laws would be changed, which causes Harry Morgan's character to dismiss it with a simple, "I doubt that."

To say those 60's episodes were cheaply made was an understatement. Webb and Harry Morgan wore the same clothes in virtually every episode in order to make it easier to use stock footage from previous episodes. Also, when they would visit a crime scene, many of their arrivals looked like they took place on the same street, LOL.

Finally, Alan Alda briefly talked about how Harry Morgan had given him a sense of just how no-nonsense Webb was on the set:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvINEYS50qE
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Webb also used stock players more than most producers. Actress Virginia Gregg was an acquaintance of my father - she told him that she liked working for Webb because it was an easy and quick paycheck. Webb would call her a few times a year, without much notice, but she was always happy to oblige. Gregg usually played the wacky old lady (victim or witness) who Friday couldn't get to focus...i.e.: "Just the facts, ma'am." . Another was Howard Culver - usually the Medical Examiner or some other official. He was a radio news anchor in Los Angeles. Actor Olan Soule was another frequent coroner on Dragnet.
 
LKellerIII said:
Webb also used stock players more than most producers. Actress Virginia Gregg was an acquaintance of my father - she told him that she liked working for Webb because it was an easy and quick paycheck. Webb would call her a few times a year, without much notice, but she was always happy to oblige. Gregg usually played the wacky old lady (victim or witness) who Friday couldn't get to focus...i.e.: "Just the facts, ma'am." . Another was Howard Culver - usually the Medical Examiner or some other official. He was a radio news anchor in Los Angeles. Actor Olan Soule was another frequent coroner on Dragnet.
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And those stock players also had appeared on other Jack Webb TV shows too. The parents of the child who drowned while mom and dad were high the father appeared as a guy who stole movie posters on a later episode of Dragnet and he was regular on Emergency as well. Gary Crosby ( Bing's son who wrote that Mommie Dearest style book about Bing Crosby ) was another. He did Adam-12, Dragnet, Emergency and the pilot about vets and animals that Webb was trying to sell to NBC back in the day.
 
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hamster said:
Let's take Dragnet for example, To older adults the Jack Webb editions are "fine" and "timeless"
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Referring to the 50's series, a person would today have to be in their mid to late 70's or older to find the show timeless and "fine".

I did not watch the first run of the b&w series; I downloaded one to view and found it totally dated and un-exciting. I suppose you had to "have played them when they were currents" to appreciate the show today.
 
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Referring to the 50's series, a person would today have to be in their mid to late 70's or older to find the show timeless and "fine".

I did not watch the first run of the b&w series; I downloaded one to view and found it totally dated and un-exciting. I suppose you had to "have played them when they were currents" to appreciate the show today.
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I am pretty sure the old CBN cable network had the rights to air the 50s Dragnet but in the end that channel did not air them probably because Pat Robertson and company thought the show was dated and who could blame them ?? One show from the 50s Dragnet was about "porn" and the girls in those "dirty books" had bikinis on. You could get that in Virginia Beach !! The 50s Dragent did air on their WYAH channel 27 ( Hampton Roads, Virginia ) for not quite a week but that was replaced by reruns of The Jeffersons.
 
DavidEduardo said:


Referring to the 50's series, a person would today have to be in their mid to late 70's or older to find the show timeless and "fine".

I did not watch the first run of the b&w series; I downloaded one to view and found it totally dated and un-exciting. I suppose you had to "have played them when they were currents" to appreciate the show today.
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But you are forgetting those younger than the 70's remember series from the 50's. Because they were on tv in the 60's and 70's. Some of us in our 50's remember and like these shows.

As for rebooting shows like Will&Grace, Miami Vice, etc., more power to them. It all comes down to content and quality. BTW, "Highway Patrol" is one of Hulu's most successful classic shows, rooted in the 1950's. Along the same line, a reboot of CHP's on TV is likely on the horizon.
 
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Gotta get this in about the Jack Webb shows... the headmaster of the K-12 private school where I went to HS bore an uncanny resemblance to Jack Webb. :)

ixnay
 
seatownmedia said:
But you are forgetting those younger than the 70's remember series from the 50's. Because they were on tv in the 60's and 70's. Some of us in our 50's remember and like these shows.

As for rebooting shows like Will&Grace, Miami Vice, etc., more power to them. It all comes down to content and quality. BTW, "Highway Patrol" is one of Hulu's most successful classic shows, rooted in the 1950's. Along the same line, a reboot of CHP's on TV is likely on the horizon.
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Highway Patrol isn't on Hulu anymore. I tried to find it last night but couldn't besides I thought Hulu was cutting back on classic shows. Partridge Family, The Mothers-In-Law and Fridays are gone and My Favorite Martian, Lou Grant, That Girl and Make Room for Daddy is supposed to leave by October. and the shows owned by CBS ( I Love Lucy, Laverne & Shirley, Happy Days, Odd Couple ect..) by Christmas.
 
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