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WZNN/WAMI/Calera FM translator apps dead in the water?

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Came across this today on the FCC site regarding the application to move WZNN Maplesville to Holtville. This app also has "other legs" which includes moving/relicensing WAMI-AM from Opp to Maplesville as the replacement station for WZNN, as well as an additional app for an FM translator to be licensed to Calera at 106.5 FM to rebroadcast WAMI (if WAMI is approved to move to Maplesville). A petititon to deny the move of WZNN to Holtville has been filed by Frontdoor Broadcasting, owner of WTXK-AM "107.5 The Ticket".

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS...?appn=101767464&qnum=5000&copynum=1&exhcnum=2
 
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OK, so I finally got a chance to read the petition to deny. Gotta give props to Stroh for doing his homework on finding the facts on the ground. I've long had a feeling that Reynolds Technical/Great South Wireless/Brantley Broadcast Associates/whatever they are this week have played fast and loose with the rules. They are also shrewd operators who seem to always be three steps ahead in their planning, with these schemes that involves moving stations like chess pieces all across the south.

I sincerely hope that the idjits at Great South/whatever get slapped hard for saying they were back on the air from their licensed facilities when in reality coming from a 25 foot tower behind a fireworks stand in Maplesville. That's crazy stupid. But I have a feeling this won't be enough to get the FCC to dismiss their application to re-license to Holtville. After all, Stroh's argument is that the station was technically off for more than 12 months and therefore ineligible to file a resumption of operations with the FCC. But they WERE back on, just not from where they claimed. And I have a feeling if they grovel or plead ignorance or whatever, the FCC may give them a pass for reasons.

If that happens, Stroh's claim is dead in the water, since translators are a secondary service to full power stations. But it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

Frankly, if WZNN's license does get deleted, I'm not sure it'll affect the plans for WAMI. Either way Maplesville will lose its first local service, so the scheme to move WAMI to Calera by way of Maplesville may continue. Heck, having WZNN out of the picture might even make it easier, as WAMI could go straight to Calera, which no longer has a licensed station. So we'll see what happens. It'll be fun to watch.
 
tomservo said:
OK, so I finally got a chance to read the petition to deny. Gotta give props to Stroh for doing his homework on finding the facts on the ground. I've long had a feeling that Reynolds Technical/Great South Wireless/Brantley Broadcast Associates/whatever they are this week have played fast and loose with the rules. They are also shrewd operators who seem to always be three steps ahead in their planning, with these schemes that involves moving stations like chess pieces all across the south.

I sincerely hope that the idjits at Great South/whatever get slapped hard for saying they were back on the air from their licensed facilities when in reality coming from a 25 foot tower behind a fireworks stand in Maplesville. That's crazy stupid. But I have a feeling this won't be enough to get the FCC to dismiss their application to re-license to Holtville. After all, Stroh's argument is that the station was technically off for more than 12 months and therefore ineligible to file a resumption of operations with the FCC. But they WERE back on, just not from where they claimed. And I have a feeling if they grovel or plead ignorance or whatever, the FCC may give them a pass for reasons.

If that happens, Stroh's claim is dead in the water, since translators are a secondary service to full power stations. But it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

Frankly, if WZNN's license does get deleted, I'm not sure it'll affect the plans for WAMI. Either way Maplesville will lose its first local service, so the scheme to move WAMI to Calera by way of Maplesville may continue. Heck, having WZNN out of the picture might even make it easier, as WAMI could go straight to Calera, which no longer has a licensed station. So we'll see what happens. It'll be fun to watch.
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How many names does Great South go by these days? Three? Four? Maybe more? lol

I had considered that the FCC might just slap Great South, etc with merely a fine, bc as you said, the station was back on the air, albeit not broadcasting from the licensed facilities it was supposed to be. Guess it depends on how forgiving the FCC is on all of it, given the tall tales Great South has been spinning about WZNN. As you said, If WZNN were to be deleted, the other two facets involved in Great South's scenario (moving/re-licensing WAMI from Opp and having that FM translator in Calera rebroadcasting WAMI) could possibly still move forward, despite the WZNN deletion. Question is...would Great South be willing to continue their plans for WAMI and the FM translator, since WAMI is being moved in order to replace the service lost to Maplesville from the WZNN move to Holtville?
 
They also go by the name Great South RFDC.

They've gone by RAMS IV, RAMS III

They've also gone by the name Valleydale Broadcasting

RAMS is usually used when theyve filed for/gotten AM CP's... I think they went by the name Brantley when they had an AM CP in Saraland
 
tomservo said:
To butcher a saying, Great South has more names than there are Chins in the Chinese phonebook. :cool:
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I'm fairly certainy there's at least one more I've forgotten about
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
I'm fairly certainy there's at least one more I've forgotten about
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I knew I'd forgotten one

R3 PARTNERS, LLC\

R3 Partners is held by a few members and thats like the big overall company. I think it's called R3 because there are 3 Reynolds family members


Follow this if you will..


PAUL H. REYNOLDS, A MEMBER OF GREAT SOUTH RFDC, L.L.C., IS A MEMBER OF R3 PARTNERS, LLC, THAT HOLDS 95% OF THE MEMBERSHIP INTERESTS IN GREAT SOUTH WIRELESS, LLC, THE LICENSEE OF STATIONS WTID(FM), THOMASTON, AL, (FAC. ID # 85767) WZZN(FM), UNION GROVE, AL (FAC. ID # 5885) AND WHPH(FM), JEMISON, AL (FAC. ID # 61231). ADDITIONALLY, R3 PARTNERS, LLC, OF WHICH MR. REYNOLDS IS A MEMBER, HOLDS 100% OF THE MEMBERSHIP INTERESTS IN BRANTLEY BROADCAST ASSOCIATES, LLC, THE LICENSEE OF STATIONS WEZZ(AM), MONROEVILLE, AL (FAC. ID # 40900), WLEE(AM), WINONA, MS (FAC. ID # 61280), AND WPHH(FM), HOPE HULL, AL (FAC. ID # 62206). FURTHER, R3 PARTNERS, LLC, OF WHICH MR. REYNOLDS IS A MEMBER, HOLDS 100% OF THE MEMBERSHIP INTERESTS IN VALLEYDALE BROADCASTING, LLC, THE LICENSEE OF STATIONS WZNN(FM), MAPLESVILLE, AL (FAC. ID # 183374), WLGD(FM), CALHOUN CITY, MS (FAC. ID # 190389), KEPZ(FM), COLFAX, LOUISIANA (FAC. ID # 190392), KPVO(FM), FOUNTAIN GREEN, UT (FAC. ID # 190393), WZMS(FM), VAIDEN, MS (FAC. ID # 189500) AND KMCZ(FM) CAMERON, LA (FAC. ID # 190391).
 
Spoke with someone last night and they told me that WAMI is still working on their move to Maplesville. This fellow doesn't work for Great South but has some associations with them. I asked him if the move for WZNN is denied, will WAMI have to stay put in Opp and he said no.

Dan <><
 
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How many of the stations that belong to Reynolds, etc are actually on-air, with legitimate programming and sponsors? I've often looked upon this never ending game of "spectrum chess" and asked myself, how do these guys keep the lights on? Moving stations around (that exist only on paper) from Podunkville to Boondocksburg can take years, and can't possibly result in anything resembling a big payoff.
 
Voicetrack of Reason said:
How many of the stations that belong to Reynolds, etc are actually on-air, with legitimate programming and sponsors? I've often looked upon this never ending game of "spectrum chess" and asked myself, how do these guys keep the lights on? Moving stations around (that exist only on paper) from Podunkville to Boondocksburg can take years, and can't possibly result in anything resembling a big payoff.
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I'm confident that WKLF in Clanton and WZZN in Huntsville are on the air. The rest? No idea. WAMI was allegedly-reportedly on the air after it moved, but who knows for how long.
 
tomservo said:
I'm confident that WKLF in Clanton and WZZN in Huntsville are on the air. The rest? No idea. WAMI was allegedly-reportedly on the air after it moved, but who knows for how long.
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id love to pick the brains of reynolds/brantley/great south/valleydale/r3 and see just how they work
 
Reynolds, excuse me.. Valleydale Broadcasting has filed an STA for WZNN.. well finally filed for osmething theyve been using since November 2016


The co-ordinates appear to put it at about 9000 AL22 in Maplesville 100 watts at -51 feet. It appears to be the Giles electric building, which has a yellow "Fireworks town" sign on it from seeing it on google maps. If you look closely, there's a short tower of maybe 25-30 feet tall.... and guess what the height above ground for the STA antenna is? 30 feet.. this street view is from July 2013, I bet if someone were to drive by.. they'd see a 1 bay FM broadcast antenna up there and not the FM radio receive antenna that shows on google maps

Put these coordinates into google Maps: 32 46 59.5 N 86 52 22.0 W

REynolds, excuse me Valleydale Broadcasting said in its STA request, "WZNN INTENDS TO LOCATE A PERMANENT TOWER SITE FOR WZNN IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND FILE AN APPLICATION FOR THIS PURPOSE."

Yeah, in Montgomery!

WZNN has an app to become a Class A on 106.5 5.7kw at 337 feet from a tower between Pine Level and millbrook . Google maps shows a cell tower on U65 in "Deatsville" that might be in.
 
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R.D.P. said:
Spoke with someone last night and they told me that WAMI is still working on their move to Maplesville. This fellow doesn't work for Great South but has some associations with them. I asked him if the move for WZNN is denied, will WAMI have to stay put in Opp and he said no.

Dan <><
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While it's true the app to move WAMI to Opp/rebroadcast on the 106.5 FM translator in Calera can exist independently of the app to move WZNN to Holtville, will Valleydale still be willing to pursue the WAMI move to Maplesville since the WZNN app to move to Holtville has now been denied, as of 10/26? It appears (at least on the surface, anyway) that the only reason behind the WAMI move was to replace the service lost to Maplesville had the WZNN move been granted. Still, Valleydale did purchase WAMI, so who knows?
 
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Voicetrack of Reason said:
How many of the stations that belong to Reynolds, etc are actually on-air, with legitimate programming and sponsors? I've often looked upon this never ending game of "spectrum chess" and asked myself, how do these guys keep the lights on? Moving stations around (that exist only on paper) from Podunkville to Boondocksburg can take years, and can't possibly result in anything resembling a big payoff.
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Quoted just to note 1)You'd think they'd have made a go at some of these AMs using translators, and 2) wanna laugh at the towns of Podunkville and Boondocksburg.
 
FreeAlabamaMedia said:
Quoted just to note 1)You'd think they'd have made a go at some of these AMs using translators, and 2) wanna laugh at the towns of Podunkville and Boondocksburg.
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