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KBKS Stunting, Bender out

Bongwater said:
K-Pop (Korean Pop) is a new CHR subgenre that's making waves on social media ("Gangnam Style" in 2012 was just the warning shot) and I heard iHeart was looking into it. K-Pop has no dedicated stations currently, but could one be developed? It seems to have a growing fanbase. Some of my kids friends are fanatically into it. And they're not even Korean.
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Probably the closest thing to that genre is what KNHC plays.
 
Bongwater said:
But as long as that's hovering over them, it's always going to be a ball and chain keeping the holders of that debt happy. While it may not seem stifling on the surface and things look on the up and up, I can't imagine it's the same way deeper inside this particular beast.
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Are we talking about the same company that backed its Panama City, FL, stations so solidly that they brought in a helicopter to reach the inaccessible transmitter sites, flew in engineers from other markets and assigned a budget to rebuild the stations as fast and as well as possible?
 
One of the very few English Language KPOP show is airing right now - Hallyu Wave by name - on WPSC-FM 88.7 Wayne, NJ!! (gobrave.org) - Sundays 7-9pm Sundays
 
CaliRadioFan said:
One of the very few English Language KPOP show is airing right now - Hallyu Wave by name - on WPSC-FM 88.7 Wayne, NJ!! (gobrave.org) - Sundays 7-9pm Sundays
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SiriusXM has a channel called Korea Today that plays a lot of K-Pop. It's one of the channels the FCC required the service to add as leased channels in order for Sirius' takeover and absorption of XM to go ahead. K-Pop isn't my thing, but there is some very good R&B and blues programming on the two channels leased to Howard University. Unfortunately, SiriusXM management is obviously still chafing at having to sacrifice bandwidth in this way, so, in a sort of middle finger to the regulators, the channels are broadcast in mono, and poor-quality mono at that, reducing the enjoyability of the music.
 
DavidEduardo said:


Are we talking about the same company that backed its Panama City, FL, stations so solidly that they brought in a helicopter to reach the inaccessible transmitter sites, flew in engineers from other markets and assigned a budget to rebuild the stations as fast and as well as possible?
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As opposed to a local operator of several stations in Panama City who basically threw in the towel and is not planning on operating in that market any more.
 
The New Chico said:
As opposed to a local operator of several stations in Panama City who basically threw in the towel and is not planning on operating in that market any more.
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Yep. This should be a good example of why bashing iHeart or regurgitating the old "Cheap Channel" references should not be part of the discussion of the apparent and developing changes at Kiss in Seattle.

Example: the change in morning show may save some money, but the reason for the change is found in the ratings for that morning show. It's a ROI discussion, not a "cheap b******s" discussion.

These are people who will spend money when warranted, as the Panama City example proves. But they are not an organization that wastes money for the sake of tradition or "the way it's always been done" if there is a better way to do it.
 
DavidEduardo said:


Yep. This should be a good example of why bashing iHeart or regurgitating the old "Cheap Channel" references should not be part of the discussion of the apparent and developing changes at Kiss in Seattle.

Example: the change in morning show may save some money, but the reason for the change is found in the ratings for that morning show. It's a ROI discussion, not a "cheap b******s" discussion.

These are people who will spend money when warranted, as the Panama City example proves. But they are not an organization that wastes money for the sake of tradition or "the way it's always been done" if there is a better way to do it.
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Panama City is also a good example if you look at how they operated before the storm. It's an overradioed market where revenue sucks, but because of the way they operate they led the market and they can afford to rebuild now that the town is destroyed.

Meanwhile, there's two other groups in that town. One filed to take the stations silent and wants out. The other just laid off the GM and air talent. Part of me wants to slam them for being cheap, but the other looks at the situation and understands. Meanwhile, the company that we refer to as the Borg is the one getting their stations back on the air and not laying off their staff. Maybe they knew what they were doing all along.

We can whine all day about how the way things used to be, but even if you weren't in debt up to your eyeballs, not taking advantage of the technology available today leaves dollars on the table. Hub & spoke isn't where radio is going; it's where radio already is. Pining for the days of the overnight jock who can't read copy doesn't move radio forward. Finding ways to make networked audio sound good does.
 
DavidEduardo said:
I always get get a little giggle out of the "you don't know the market" comments.

A number of times I have been told that "it won't work here" when I launched new formats in markets I was a newcomer to. Each time the comment was proven to be totally wrong. Outside perspectives combined with local listener research often prove to be winning formulae.

KHJ: Ron Jacobs was from Hawaii.

Z-100: Shannon was from Tampa, by way of Nashville.

And so on...
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Scott Shannon, Pirate Radio L.A.

Steve Weed, K-Hit 106.9 Seattle

Rob, Arnie & Dawn, KISW Seattle

FM News 101.9, New York

Power 93.3, Seattle

Kiss 106.1 Seattle now on its seventh (eighth, ninth?) format adjustment...this time with no local PD.

Jack FM, New York


Still giggling?
 
AQH said:
Scott Shannon, Pirate Radio L.A.

Steve Weed, K-Hit 106.9 Seattle

Rob, Arnie & Dawn, KISW Seattle

FM News 101.9, New York

Power 93.3, Seattle

Kiss 106.1 Seattle now on its seventh (eighth, ninth?) format adjustment...this time with no local PD.

Jack FM, New York


Still giggling?
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The problem with Jack in New York is it was on the wrong frequency. I have a feeling that had CBS blown up 102.7 or 92.3 for Jack it would still be around. I believe 92.3 was Free FM at the time, which ultimately failed. It appears 102.7 was doing ok at the time, but when it was blown up a year and a half or so later, there wasn't nearly the amount of backlash against that change as there was against the change at 101.1. As for the fm news format, it seems to me like when Merlin bought those stations, they mandated that they run the news format, regardless of how successful the stations being sacrificed were. Getting back to Seattle, I have an aircheck from KBKS in the summer of 2015 that actually sounds better than they had sounded a year earlier. That being said, it still reminded me of a small-market midwestern station that I sometimes listen too. That may work for them and for me if I'm not in a good mood, but it won't work here in general. If iHeart was going to have a shot at CHR in this market, Power would have been the station to do it with. Why it didn't work is beyond me. As for all the other examples you cited, I can't speak to them, as they were before my time.
 
AQH said:
Scott Shannon, Pirate Radio L.A.

Steve Weed, K-Hit 106.9 Seattle

Rob, Arnie & Dawn, KISW Seattle

FM News 101.9, New York

Power 93.3, Seattle

Kiss 106.1 Seattle now on its seventh (eighth, ninth?) format adjustment...this time with no local PD.

Jack FM, New York


Still giggling?
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Some of those were good ideas but poorly executed.

Many morning shows fail, and there is a difference in trying to put together talent for a show and doing a new format. Apples and oranges.

And Jack was not a fail... it had better 25-54 than the oldies format that preceded it. It only changed to classic hits because CBS was learning things about the PPM from the early (2002) tests in Philly and the needed to preempt another classic h its station in NYC.

I can, of course, give many more examples of people from outside a market who did what nobody local would do...and won.
 
Anyone notice the just released ratings for KBKS ????

YIKES.

No wonder they're stunting! My guess is the station rebrands and stays CHR/Pop. If the format does wind up changing, my guess is a flip to Alternative.

Will the station throw everyone a curve ball and go All Christmas tomorrow afternoon? I sure hope not!!!
 
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