METV FM finally streaming!

[erwin33]

Mwah, ,sort of via their Milwaukee affiliate on HD2 WMYX HD. But Radio.com is streaming: http://player.radio.com/listen/station/me-tv-fm It's exactly METV Chicago with the same playlist playing in the same random order.
Hope this the beginning of more METV affliliates with their own stream, hope also Chicago is gonna stream soon.
What a great format is this, it's not typical oldies, it's more than that.

 

[TheBigA]

Interesting, because if that's how it's being done, then it's likely that Entercom is paying the music royalties. Somebody has to pay so boomers can hear free music. The Chicago station is run by Weigel, and they don't want to pay music royalties.

 

[staggmovie]

Mwah, ,sort of via their Milwaukee affiliate on HD2 WMYX HD. But Radio.com is streaming: http://player.radio.com/listen/station/me-tv-fm It's exactly METV Chicago with the same playlist playing in the same random order.
Hope this the beginning of more METV affliliates with their own stream, hope also Chicago is gonna stream soon.
What a great format is this, it's not typical oldies, it's more than that.

I was going to say don't tease me like that, when you look at your topic title, it looks like ME TV FM here in Chicago, is started to stream, nit you are talking about another station in Milwaukee. So that really isn't Chicago radio, and they have all sorts of songs to ones that you really hear played on other oldies/classic hits stations like WLS FM. Some where early in the 5 AM hour this morning, I heard them play Bobby Darrin's Beyond the Seas. And when was the last time you have heard that song play on radio? I bet you can't, as Bobby Darrin would have recorded the song in the late 1950's, and I am not sure what is the oldest song that WLS FM has on their playlist. And i have to imagine that TheBigA is right that somebody has to be paying for the music royalties. As Entercom is most likely playing them, since or Chicago station is owned by Weigel, who would run them, and if music royalties, weren't a problem i am sure that they would have already been streaming them.

 

[erwin33]

It is Chicago radio because the play exactly the same playlist in the same order. Yes ok, it's Milwaukee but I guess the output is from Chicago with Milwaukee frequency ID's (99.1 HD2)

 

[davideduardo]

It is Chicago radio because the play exactly the same playlist in the same order. Yes ok, it's Milwaukee but I guess the output is from Chicago with Milwaukee frequency ID's (99.1 HD2)

I wonder if the Milwaukee "affiliate" is taking the audio from Chicago, and inserting their own liners and stopsets or whether Chicago is exporting its music log file each day and Milwaukee is importing it to their own digital system for playback along with the local spots and imaging.

 

[CTListener]

I wonder if the Milwaukee "affiliate" is taking the audio from Chicago, and inserting their own liners and stopsets or whether Chicago is exporting its music log file each day and Milwaukee is importing it to their own digital system for playback along with the local spots and imaging.

Is there any difference in the royalty fees paid on audio sourced from a legal-loophole Franken-FM and audio originated by a "legit" radio station?

 

[davideduardo]

Is there any difference in the royalty fees paid on audio sourced from a legal-loophole Franken-FM and audio originated by a "legit" radio station?

For the royalties that a station pays on its digital stream, the metric is the number of streams, not the source. Unless there is something I am neglecting, this would be like a syndicated format since the source is not the FrankenFM but the operator of same who is also providing the music format system to others.

 

[TheBigA]

I wonder if the Milwaukee "affiliate" is taking the audio from Chicago, and inserting their own liners and stopsets or whether Chicago is exporting its music log file each day and Milwaukee is importing it to their own digital system for playback along with the local spots and imaging.

The way to answer this is if the RDS in your car is giving song titles. Then it's from a local drive. If they're just rebroadcasting Chicago, you probably won't see song titles on your RDS.

My theory about this Milwaukee "affiliate" is it's a paid clear by the local Weigel TV station. I doubt Entercom is spending any time or money on this HD2 unless it's reimbursed.

 

[JeremyAndrews]

Radio Disney ran on a network of HD-2 and HD-3 stations after the AM network shut down. It was discontinued earlier this year and stations needed to find replacements. WMYX HD-2 went with Me-TVFM, which is distributed by Envision Radio Networks.

Since Entercom has been pushing the Radio.com platform they got from CBS, they have been streaming more stations, particularly HD-2 stations.

Win win for Entercom, Envision and Me-TVFM. Entercom has a format for WMYX HD-2, Entercom has more content to stream. Envision and Me-TVFM have an affiliate, and a streaming internet demo of the network and the format itself. This is also a win for the listeners who might have wanted to listen to the format online.

 

[TheBigA]

Win win for Entercom, Envision and Me-TVFM. Entercom has a format for WMYX HD-2, Entercom has more content to stream. Envision and Me-TVFM have a streaming internet demo of the network and the format itself.

However, due to high digital music royalties, streaming radio is typically a money loser. So not necessarily a win for Entercom. They're footing the bill.

 

[JeremyAndrews]

However, due to high digital music royalties, streaming radio is typically a money loser. So not necessarily a win for Entercom. They're footing the bill.

1. They cut that bill by having it on an HD-2 station. If it was just internet-only, it would cost more.
2. They want this content so people will use Radio.com. It’s not by any means the only station playing Oldies or Pre 1980s music they have on there. Like iHeart, they are pushing having more content on Radio.com, not cutting it.

 

[TheBigA]

Like iHeart, they are pushing having more content on Radio.com, not cutting it.

Promoting the platform doesn't necessarily result in revenue. Especially if we're talking about out of market streaming, which is likely to be greater than in-market. There still is a cost, even though it is less than internet-only.

ME-FM is a promotional tool for ME-TV, and Weigel has a station in Milwaukee, thus the value for Weigel in Milwaukee. But to fund a national internet radio station may not have any financial benefits.

 

[JeremyAndrews]

The entire point of WMYX HD-2 being on Radio.com is because Entercom wants Radio.com to have more stations, streams, podcasts. Entercom WANTS people to use Radio.com.

By streaming more stations, especially distinct ones like WMYX HD-2 (Me-TVFM) they will bring people to Radio.com who might otherwise not use Radio.com. If you, the people posting here, listeners of WRME, or even WMYX HD-2 locally listen to it on Radio.com, or the mobile app, then it is a success for them, because it is being listened to with the Radio.com platform.

They are pushing Radio.com. Listen to any Entercom station. You’ll hear Radio.com this, Radio.com that. Again, they want as many people as possible to use Radio.com.

 

[TheBigA]

The entire point of WMYX HD-2 being on Radio.com is because Entercom wants Radio.com to have more stations, streams, podcasts. Entercom WANTS people to use Radio.com.

Not disagreeing with that. Just saying there's no profit in it at this point. It's a loss leader. Sure they want to drive up usage numbers in comparison to other sites, such as iHeart and TuneIn. They're using ALL of their stations to do that. If it's on an Entercom station, it automatically goes on Radio.com, regardless of the source or format. As I said, the reason it's on in Milwaukee is because Weigel owns a TV station there. Otherwise, Entercom could stream some other station.

 

[JeremyAndrews]

Radio.com basically generates whatever income it can get from ads (Pre roll, in stream, banner) The more traffic Radio.com gets, the more they can charge for these ads. Thus the unique channels. As of right now, there is no other stream for MeTV-FM as a radio network.

iHeartradio has all sorts of branded channels (Zoom Tan, Wynn Hotels, Macy’s, Red Bull, Marriott, Lollapalooza, Global Citizen, Supercuts), artist channels and unique formats. Most also run on an HD-2 to cut costs. They want as much unique content as possible.

As for Me-TVFM as a network, the only other affiliate is a non streaming AM in Saginaw which was also the first network affiliate.

 

[TheBigA]

Radio.com basically generates whatever income it can get from ads (Pre roll, in stream, banner) The more traffic Radio.com gets, the more they can charge for these ads. Thus the unique channels. As of right now, there is no other stream for MeTV-FM as a radio network.

You keep talking about ME-TV as "unique." Nothing unique about ipod on shuffle. This kind of thing is easily done. As I said, the only reason it exists is because Weigel owns a station in Milwaukee. Otherwise Entercom can easily program its own computer to do this.

 

[Bill from White Plains]

The way to answer this is if the RDS in your car is giving song titles. Then it's from a local drive. If they're just rebroadcasting Chicago, you probably won't see song titles on your RDS.

Big A, this is not necessarily true. If it's a straight feed, then yes. But, it could be that the same log is loaded into an automation system in Milwaukee which would then allow for RDS to work as it usually does.

 

[davideduardo]

The way to answer this is if the RDS in your car is giving song titles. Then it's from a local drive. If they're just rebroadcasting Chicago, you probably won't see song titles on your RDS.

Big A, this is not necessarily true. If it's a straight feed, then yes. But, it could be that the same log is loaded into an automation system in Milwaukee which would then allow for RDS to work as it usually does.

If the same music log is loaded, the timing will not be precise; songs will start at slightly different times due to different length stopsets and different imaging.

 

[TheBigA]

Big A, this is not necessarily true. If it's a straight feed, then yes. But, it could be that the same log is loaded into an automation system in Milwaukee which would then allow for RDS to work as it usually does.

The poster in #9 says the feed is syndicated by Envision.

WMYX HD-2 went with Me-TVFM, which is distributed by Envision Radio Networks.

No one has given us an eyewitness report about the RDS.

 

[Bill from White Plains]

If the same music log is loaded, the timing will not be precise; songs will start at slightly different times due to different length stopsets and different imaging.

Do we know if it's precise? Is there separate imaging or IDs for the Milwaukee station?