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The ratings are out for los angeles.

hotpatrick2004

hotpatrick2004

Kroq still beating alt 98.7. I find it fascinating that kfi's stream alone is tied with terrestrial 790 kabc for 38th. Sad
And kost is doin well but i wonder what inside the numbers would show for these stations. Below is la radio.com column.

(March 20, 2019) KOST tops the list of most listened-to stations in the February '19 PPM 6+ Mon-Sun, 6a-Midnight. MY/fm (KBIG) had a precipitous drop to 5th place. The Hot AC station had quite a run last year. This may just be a monthly anomaly.

If you stroll down to the bottom of the top 40 station listings, the KFI Stream (receiving the signal on the Internet, Smart Phone, Echo, Alexa, etc.) tied KABC, KCSN, and KKLA). Here's how the stations stack up:

1. KOST (AC) 6.2 - 6.5
2. KRTH (Classic Hits) 5.1 - 5.3
3. KIIS (Top 40/M) 4.3 - 4.4
KTWV (Rhythmic AC) 4.3 - 4.4
5. KBIG (Hot AC) 5.0 - 4.3
6. KCBS (Adult Hits) 3.5 - 4.0
KFI (Talk) 3.8 - 4.0
8. KNX (News) 3.7 - 3.6
9. KLVE (Spanish Contemporary) 3.2 - 3.4
10. KPWR (Top 40/R) 2.7 - 3.0
11. KLAX (Regional Mexican) 2.7 - 2.9
12. KAMP (Top 40/M) 2.4 - 2.8
13. KPCC (News/Talk) 2.8 - 2.7
KXOL (Spanish AC) 2.8 - 2.7
15. KKGO (Country) 2.6 - 2.6
16. KLOS (Classic Rock) 2.5 - 2.5
KRRL (Urban) 2.6 - 2.5
18. KRCD (Spanish Adult Hits) 2.6 - 2.4
KROQ (Alternative) 2.4 - 2.4
KUSC (Classical) 2.5 - 2.4
21. KBUE (Regional Mexican) 2.0 - 2.0
KLYY (Spanish Adult Hits) 1.8 - 2.0
KYSR (Alternative) 2.1 - 2.0
24. KJLH (Urban AC) 1.8 - 1.8
25. KSCA (Regional Mexican) 1.6 - 1.5
KSPN (Sports) 1.6 - 1.5
27. KKLQ (Christian Contemporary) 1.2 - 1.4
28. KCRW (Variety) 1.3 - 1.1
KDAY (Rhythmic AC) 1.2 - 1.1
30. KRLA (Talk) 0.8 - 1.0
31. KKJZ (Jazz) 0.8 - 0.9
KLAC (Sports) 0.9 - 0.9
KXOS (Regional Mexican) 1.0 - 0.9
34. KEIB (Talk) 0.9 - 0.8
KWIZ (Spanish Variety) 0.8 - 0.8
36. KFSH (Christian Contemporary) 0.7 - 0.7
KFWB (Regional Mexican) 0.6 - 0.7
38. KABC (Talk) 0.6 - 0.6
KCSN (AAA) 0.6 - 0.6
KFI-Stream -- - 0.6
KKLA (Religious) 0.6 - 0.6
 
hotpatrick2004 said:
Kroq still beating alt 98.7. I find it fascinating that kfi's stream alone is tied with terrestrial 790 kabc for 38th. Sad
And kost is doin well but i wonder what inside the numbers would show for these stations. Below is la radio.com column.
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It would be appropriate for anything you post with attribution to have a link:

http://www.laradio.com/

Again, this is for 6+, and nobody does anything with those numbers.
 
Can someone explain to me how Lisa Worden keeps her job?

98.7 in LA, DC101 in Washington and Alt 105.7 in Atlanta are all complete dumpster fires. Alt 106.7 in Detroit was mercifully killed after 15 months. KTBZ in Houston isn't nearly as strong as it once was.
 
TheBigA said:
The problem is the genre is dead. No new exciting sounds in years. Just strumming the same chords.
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BigA you are on fire today. Don't forget the same tired themes of fear, alienation, and being downtrodden. Who wants to listen to such negativism for so long?

And as it has been said, you can only be avant garde for so long and then you are simply just garde. Same with alternative.
 
The problem is the genre is dead. No new exciting sounds in years. Just strumming the same chords.
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Agreed!!!

Would love to know Entercom's thinking, too, in terms of going "all in" on Alternative.

104.3 The Shark in Miami has had terrible ratings for several years now, 103.7 KVIL in Dallas (a station with a MASSIVE signal) is in 21st place, Alt 92.3 in New York is dead last among all English language music-based FM stations, and Alt 101.9 in Orlando after showing brief promise now has ratings that are abysmal.
 
MarkW said:
Would love to know Entercom's thinking, too, in terms of going "all in" on Alternative.
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Based on nothing but observation, it appears to be a personal favorite format for the CEO.

However, even though the audience is small, the demos are usually pretty good.

Obviously iHeart feels the same way.
 
You can use this analogy if a radio station or tv show hits there target demo there all good. Like american idol which is a terrible show now but ABC brought it back for a 2nd season because they said it hit there target demo.
 
hotpatrick2004 said:
Hey david edwardo how well does kabc vs kfi
And alt 98.7 vs kroq do inside the numbers?
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KFI beats KABC several times over in 25-54. KROQ and KYSR in 18-49 are just a couple of tenths of a share apart, which is really a statistical tie.
 
Too bad K-Surf 1260 didn't make the list...Such a good station that many listen to.
 
oldies76 said:
Too bad K-Surf 1260 didn't make the list...Such a good station that many listen to.
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One does not "make the list".

Ratings are a measure of popularity and acceptance of radio stations.

KSUR did "make the book" at 44th. It has a 0.5 share.

It's not a "good station". It is a highly directional AM that does not sound very good and which plays music very few people of any age want to hear.

"Many" do not listen to it. "Few" listen to it.
 
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DavidEduardo said:


One does not "make the list".

Ratings are a measure of popularity and acceptance of radio stations.

KSUR did "make the book" at 44th. It has a 0.5 share.

It's not a "good station". It is a highly directional AM that does not sound very good and which plays music very few people of any age wants to hear.

"Many" do not listen to it. "Few" listen to it.
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Not to play with semantics or anything but aren't there around ten million people living in the extended Los Angeles area? If so, a 0.5 share would be 500,000, assuming everyone had listened for at least five minutes of the average quarter hour. While that seems a stretch, even 100,000 would be considered "many" in most places.
 
semoochie said:
Not to play with semantics or anything but aren't there around ten million people living in the extended Los Angeles area? If so, a 0.5 share would be 500,000, assuming everyone had listened for at least five minutes of the average quarter hour. While that seems a stretch, even 100,000 would be considered "many" in most places.
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There are over 11,518,000 total persons 12+ in the MSA, which is all of LA and Orange counties (Nielsen Red Book, Fall 2018).

However, "share" means "percentage of persons listening to radio listening to a particular station". It does not mean a percentage of the total population.

The average percentage of people listening to the radio from 6 AM to Midnight, Monday to Sunday, is around 8%. So that means about 800,000 persons are, on average, listening. 0.5% of that is around 4,000 average quarter hour persons. That is the equivalent of only filling the Hollywood Bowl to one quarter of its capacity.

"Rating" is a station's listening expressed as a percentage of all persons, listening or not. KSUR's rating during the last year has been 0.0.

Ratings wise, KSUR is a nothingburger without the bun.
 
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DavidEduardo said:


There are over 11,518,000 total persons 12+ in the MSA, which is all of LA and Orange counties (Nielsen Red Book, Fall 2018).

However, "share" means "percentage of persons listening to radio listening to a particular station". It does not mean a percentage of the total population.

The average percentage of people listening to the radio from 6 AM to Midnight, Monday to Sunday, is around 8%. So that means about 800,000 persons are, on average, listening. 0.5% of that is around 4,000 average quarter hour persons. That is the equivalent of only filling the Hollywood Bowl to one quarter of its capacity.

"Rating" is a station's listening expressed as a percentage of all persons, listening or not. KSUR's rating during the last year has been 0.0.

Ratings wise, KSUR is a nothingburger without the bun.
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I know and didn't realize a share was so small, compared with cume but if you had what amounted to 4000 people in half a share, that could be considered, "many" in small towns. What I didn't know was that the total share was only 8% of the total population above 6.
 
TheBigA said:
The problem is the genre is dead. No new exciting sounds in years. Just strumming the same chords.
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Not so. Sample list of Alternative artists of note in recent years - each of these has numerous hits spanning multiple recent years:
Panic! At the Disco
Bastille
X Ambassadors
Mumford & Sons
lovelytheband
Cage the Elephant
The Black Keys
Foals
The 1975
Walk the Moon
Judah & the Lion
Imagine Dragons
Death Cab for Cutie
Vampire Weekend
Twenty One Pilots
Young the Giant
Muse
Chvrches

...and a couple new ALTERNATIVE artists with promise:
Barns Courtney
SHAED
 
david said:
Not so. Sample list of Alternative artists of note in recent years - each of these has numerous hits spanning multiple recent years:
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Not sure if I agree with that. It's really hard to build a consensus format out of that list that could get more than a 2 share.

But then again, is the alternative format intended to attract large audiences? I don't know.
 
david said:
Not so. Sample list of Alternative artists of note in recent years - each of these has numerous hits spanning multiple recent years:
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I don't think alternative rock is dead - at all - but the genre is just way more fragmented and differentiated than before.

For instance, Mac DeMarco could easily sell out the Hollywood Palladium, but no alternative rock radio station rotates his music.

Another local artist - Chicano Batman - have headlined the Tropicalia Music Festival in Long Beach two years in a row (about 15k people attend this show) and can sell out any show in the area - but besides a few spins on KROQ, they do not receive any regular airplay.

Music testing and PPM decide what plays on the format.
 
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