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Cumulus stops Blair Gardner from airing an interview with Mayor Pete.

davideduardo

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Probably the correct choice for Westwood One/Cumulus. Not only are the equal time rules significant, but listeners to After Mid-Night are almost definitely not looking to hear from a parade of presidential candidates, should the candidates invoke that right.

Listeners might be willing to hear from Mayor Buttigeg over one or two nights, but we would be well into January if all the candidates took Blair at his word and went on his show, one a week.
 
Blair Gardner's show was technically on a Country format station though. But how much was Westwood One trying to make sure that the show does not go off format and two is it possible to make the episode with Mayor Pete Buttigieg podcast only if Gardner's show contract allow that.


In his roughly 20-minute interview, Buttigieg discussed meeting country music icons Brad Paisley and Tim McGraw and called on the Democratic Party to reach out to more communities traditionally viewed as right-leaning.

“I think that our base tends to be more conservative,” Garner told Buttigieg of his program’s listeners. “And the fact that you, from the Democratic ticket, are the singular candidate to reach out and to say, ‘May I please be on your show?’ That you are reaching out to our listeners ― I think we all have to embrace that and be appreciative of that.”

But Cumulus Media decided to spike the interview, blocking Garner and affiliate radio stations from airing any part of it, the radio host announced Friday.
 
Likely the correct choice from several angles. Gardner should've likely cleared it prior to recording the interview. This seems far less acrimonious than the row that occurred at ESPN last week though.
 
Probably the correct choice for Westwood One/Cumulus. Not only are the equal time rules significant, but listeners to After Mid-Night are almost definitely not looking to hear from a parade of presidential candidates, should the candidates invoke that right.

FYI Garner left After Midnite for Cumulus about 6 years ago.
 
Likely the correct choice from several angles. Gardner should've likely cleared it prior to recording the interview. This seems far less acrimonious than the row that occurred at ESPN last week though.

The answer, from a managerial perspective, is to allow Cumulus' News and Talk properties to air the interview, as to not interrupt the country format on Gardner's show.

A) It ensures the exclusive interview is used "in-house" via a full airing, with a re-use of clips for newscast replay.
B) It highlights Mr. Gardner's work.
C) It doesn't leave any bad blood between the candidate's campaign staff and Cumulus. The last thing someone at, say, WLS or Westwood One News wants is being told "No" by a candidate's press team because of getting stiffed by the corporate parent during an earlier instance. It would be silly of the campaign press person to behave that way, but why create the possibility?

As for any "equal time" issues that Cumulus is concerned for, all they would need to do is make an invite to the other candidates for the same or similar format. If they get no takers, that's not Cumulus fault. I'm not even sure there exists a legal requirement to do it, but you can at least say you were being equitable.
 
The answer, from a managerial perspective, is to allow Cumulus' News and Talk properties to air the interview, as to not interrupt the country format on Gardner's show.

Except that the news/talk stations are hard right conservative talk stations, not interested in hearing a Democrat. If Mayor Pete wanted to reach that audience, he would have approached them, not the country show. Two very different audiences. Country stations are younger and more female. Talk stations are older and more male.
 
Except that the news/talk stations are hard right conservative talk stations, not interested in hearing a Democrat. If Mayor Pete wanted to reach that audience, he would have approached them, not the country show. Two very different audiences. Country stations are younger and more female. Talk stations are older and more male.

Except that the situation now requires a band-aid... and that's how I would have handled it.
 
If Cumulus wanted to silence the interview for political reasons, it wouldn't be the first time. Cumulus, after all, did have a corporate ban on its country stations playing the Dixie Chicks, at least for a little while. Granted, that was different leadership, but it has happened before.

I'm not, though, convinced that was the rationale in this case. Every country station I've ever worked at has been apolitical, or very rarely political. None got much more political than running the required political ads.
 
How about Cumulus airing the DNC Primary Debates on radio via their News/Talk stations if they wanted too but then again demographics is the issue here if they were serious about that and audience size.
 
FYI Garner left After Midnite for Cumulus about 6 years ago.

Oops. I thought he was able to bring the show's title with him during the move.

Take this as evidence that my usage of overnight radio is essentially zero.
 
Cumulus's right-wing political/social leanings have not been a secret. Years ago they censored The Script's song "Breakeven" because its lyrics mentioned not believing in God:

https://www.radiodiscussions.com/sh...ions-Banning-The-Script-s-quot-Breakeven-quot

I think in this case they simply did not want an openly gay Democrat to be on their network.

The management and ownership of Cumulus have changed totally since the 2010 decision not to play that song. Nobody in a position of authority back then is there now, so bringing up a 10 year old incident about a song is highly irrelevant.

The main reason for not running an interview with one candidate is the Equal Time rule which would require affording every one of the candidates the same opportunity and that would be destructive for a music based program.

This is no different than ESPN's reinforced directive to its staff about "no politics" which came from management this week.

This seems mostly an issue of, first, triggering equal time requirements and, second, introducing politics into a music format.
 
If Cumulus wanted to silence the interview for political reasons, it wouldn't be the first time. Cumulus, after all, did have a corporate ban on its country stations playing the Dixie Chicks, at least for a little while. Granted, that was different leadership, but it has happened before.

And the Dixie Chick ban came out of listener protests which forced them to stop playing the music. Almost every country station in the US did the same thing.
 
Cumulus's right-wing political/social leanings have not been a secret. Years ago they censored The Script's song "Breakeven" because its lyrics mentioned not believing in God:

https://www.radiodiscussions.com/sh...ions-Banning-The-Script-s-quot-Breakeven-quot

I think in this case they simply did not want an openly gay Democrat to be on their network.


May be the most laughable comment of this entire post. I guess Cumulus plays no music from left wingers, or openly gay artist? Or a particular Eagles song...
 
For the reference of everyone following this thread, here is the "Equal Time Rule" otherwise known as 73.1941.

Interestingly, it applies to the candidates themselves, not their supporters (see the WISN and WTMJ complaints that denied relief for programming done in favor of one candidate to the exclusion of others).


§ 73.1941 Equal opportunities.

(a)General requirements. Except as otherwise indicated in § 73.1944, no station licensee is required to permit the use of its facilities by any legally qualified candidate for public office, but if any licensee shall permit any such candidate to use its facilities, it shall afford equal opportunities to all other candidates for that office to use such facilities. Such licensee shall have no power of censorship over the material broadcast by any such candidate. Appearance by a legally qualified candidate on any:

(1) Bona fide newscast;

(2) Bona fide news interview;

(3) Bona fide news documentary (if the appearance of the candidate is incidental to the presentation of the subject or subjects covered by the news documentary); or

(4) On-the-spot coverage of bona fide news events (including, but not limited to political conventions and activities incidental thereto) shall not be deemed to be use of broadcasting station. (section 315(a) of the Communications Act.)

(b)Uses. As used in this section and § 73.1942, the term “use” means a candidate appearance (including by voice or picture) that is not exempt under paragraphs 73.1941 (a)(1) through (a)(4) of this section.

(c)Timing of request. A request for equal opportunities must be submitted to the licensee within 1 week of the day on which the first prior use giving rise to the right of equal opportunities occurred: Provided, however, That where the person was not a candidate at the time of such first prior use, he or she shall submit his or her request within 1 week of the first subsequent use after he or she has become a legally qualified candidate for the office in question.

(d)Burden of proof. A candidate requesting equal opportunities of the licensee or complaining of noncompliance to the Commission shall have the burden of proving that he or she and his or her opponent are legally qualified candidates for the same public office.

(e)Discrimination between candidates. In making time available to candidates for public office, no licensee shall make any discrimination between candidates in practices, regulations, facilities, or services for or in connection with the service rendered pursuant to this part, or make or give any preference to any candidate for public office or subject any such candidate to any prejudice or disadvantage; nor shall any licensee make any contract or other agreement which shall have the effect of permitting any legally qualified candidate for any public office to broadcast to the exclusion of other legally qualified candidates for the same public office.
[57 FR 208, Jan. 3, 1992, as amended at 59 FR 14568, Mar. 29, 1994]
 
Citing the huge number of candidates and mentioning the equal time rules, Cumulus blocked Blair's syndicated show from airing a taped interfiew:

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d34a310e4b020cd9945089a/amp

Thats fine with me. Mayor Pete is wasting his citys time as far as i am concerned and he doesnt give a damn about the city he is mayor of. He just trying to become the first gay candidate which is stupid it shouldnt matter how you associate but that is his main talking point. I try to stay away from politics on here but this thread kind of iniates that subject so please go easy on me admins thank you.
 
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