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Eminem Sues Spotify

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TheBigA

Rapper Eminem and his publishing company 8 Mile are suing Spotify for illegally playing his music. He claims they don't have a license, and they claim they don't know who his publisher is. He is also claiming that the newly passed Music Modernization Act is unconstitutional, in that it violates the 5th amendment. That's a new one on me. But you can read all about it here:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t...copyright-breach-unconstitutional-law-1233362

Musicians have complained about streaming for years. They feel the rates don't adequately compensate artists or songwriters. They also want more control of how their music is used. Its interesting that Eminem is doing this alone, and not with other musicians. Although the lawsuit by The Turtles against Sirius was done alone.
 
TheBigA said:
Rapper Eminem and his publishing company 8 Mile are suing Spotify for illegally playing his music. He claims they don't have a license, and they claim they don't know who his publisher is. He is also claiming that the newly passed Music Modernization Act is unconstitutional, in that it violates the 5th amendment. That's a new one on me. But you can read all about it here:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t...copyright-breach-unconstitutional-law-1233362

Musicians have complained about streaming for years. They feel the rates don't adequately compensate artists or songwriters. They also want more control of how their music is used. Its interesting that Eminem is doing this alone, and not with other musicians. Although the lawsuit by The Turtles against Sirius was done alone.
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i think this is gonna be the first of many disputes between music streaming service and artists, songwriters, producer, and record lebels. i think more and more of this will happen.
 
Will_H_69_9 said:
i think this is gonna be the first of many disputes between music streaming service and artists, songwriters, producer, and record lebels. i think more and more of this will happen.
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It almost seems as we are witnessing the increasing Balkanization of the music business. If streaming services can no longer afford to pay royalties, they will go out of business. That will leave either the pirates, or proprietary subscription services set up by the music companies, musicians themselves, and OTA broadcasting -- which, as we all know, probably has a couple decades left in it.

Just my two cents' worth, if it's worth even that...
 
boombox4 said:
That will leave either the pirates, or proprietary subscription services set up by the music companies, musicians themselves, and OTA broadcasting -- which, as we all know, probably has a couple decades left in it.
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I think you have a good handle on the situation. The record labels originally had ownership stakes in Spotify, and one by one they've sold them off. Several artists were partners in Tidal, and one by one they've dropped out. Sprint now owns a third of it. A few years ago, Garth Brooks started his own Ghost Tunes company for music. He's since shut it down and partnered with Amazon. So really what we're seeing is the music industry, namely the artists, the labels, and the publishing companies, simply want to be content creators, and not have any ownership in distribution. That should tell us all something.
 
TheBigA said:
Rapper Eminem and his publishing company 8 Mile are suing Spotify for illegally playing his music. He claims they don't have a license, and they claim they don't know who his publisher is. He is also claiming that the newly passed Music Modernization Act is unconstitutional, in that it violates the 5th amendment. That's a new one on me. But you can read all about it here:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t...copyright-breach-unconstitutional-law-1233362

Musicians have complained about streaming for years. They feel the rates don't adequately compensate artists or songwriters. They also want more control of how their music is used. Its interesting that Eminem is doing this alone, and not with other musicians. Although the lawsuit by The Turtles against Sirius was done alone.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze_(Eminem_album)

Wait shoudn't UMG also have a say in how streaming contracts are handled given that Eminem's recent album was made under labels with a distribution contract with UMG and UMG made that decision to have their records distribute through Spotify and others for streaming.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath_Entertainment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interscope_Records

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shady_Records
 
RadioPatrol said:
Wait shoudn't UMG also have a say in how streaming contracts are handled given that Eminem's recent album was made under labels with a distribution contract with UMG and UMG made that decision to have their records distribute through Spotify and others for streaming.
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A distribution agreement doesn't give UMG any rights to the content. For example UMG distributes Big Machine. Taylor Swift now records for UMG directly. Her new label has no rights to her previous recordings.
 
TheBigA said:
Rapper Eminem and his publishing company 8 Mile are suing Spotify for illegally playing his music. He claims they don't have a license, and they claim they don't know who his publisher is. He is also claiming that the newly passed Music Modernization Act is unconstitutional, in that it violates the 5th amendment. That's a new one on me. But you can read all about it here:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t...copyright-breach-unconstitutional-law-1233362

Musicians have complained about streaming for years. They feel the rates don't adequately compensate artists or songwriters. They also want more control of how their music is used. Its interesting that Eminem is doing this alone, and not with other musicians. Although the lawsuit by The Turtles against Sirius was done alone.
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So when I buy the album they get paid once no matter how many times I might play the record. Streaming should be paying per spin, won't they be getting more benefits from streaming services.
 
TheBigA said:
The lawsuit against Spotify is that they aren't paying anything for the music, claiming they don't know who to pay.
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I'm sure someone is getting paid, they can't just stream free music. I wonder what Marshal's original agreement was.
 
TheBigA said:
Rapper Eminem and his publishing company 8 Mile are suing Spotify for illegally playing his music. He claims they don't have a license, and they claim they don't know who his publisher is. He is also claiming that the newly passed Music Modernization Act is unconstitutional, in that it violates the 5th amendment. That's a new one on me. But you can read all about it here:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t...copyright-breach-unconstitutional-law-1233362

Musicians have complained about streaming for years. They feel the rates don't adequately compensate artists or songwriters. They also want more control of how their music is used. Its interesting that Eminem is doing this alone, and not with other musicians. Although the lawsuit by The Turtles against Sirius was done alone.
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Music modernization act just allows for royalties to be required for music made before 1960s older music I believe mary wilson of the supremes was the main one behind that push has nothing to do with eminems music as he was already getting paid the royalties before that law came into place.
 
TheBigA said:
Streaming is paying a fraction of a penny per spin. The criticism is that even millions of plays doesn't result in a living wage.
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Living Wage? Most of the people that would be getting the increased royalties are already millionaires.
 
kidrauhl said:
Music modernization act just allows for royalties to be required for music made before 1960s older music I believe mary wilson of the supremes was the main one behind that push has nothing to do with eminems music as he was already getting paid the royalties before that law came into place.
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You're wrong about that. Read the article.
 
TheBigA said:
The record labels originally had ownership stakes in Spotify, and one by one they've sold them off.
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All of the big three record labels own 5% or larger shares of Spotify according to the article you shared.
 
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