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KFLZ-LP now broadcasting on 87.9

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Since yesterday, KFLZ-LP “La Pantera” has been on 87.9 MHz instead of 87.7. However, they’re IDing as 87.7 and 92.9 HD3. Their signal is now stronger in NW San Antonio as well.

I wonder what’s going on.
 
Wow it actually is.

So is the LPTV station in Fort Worth, or was last I checked. That one has the same format and name but I don't know if they broadcast each other.
 
Both the S.A. and Arlington “La Pantera” stations on 87.9 have the same logo and format, but their streams don’t match. Also, the Arlington station is IDing as 87.9 while the S.A. station is still IDing as 87.7/92.9 HD3.

There is an 87.7 in Dallas, KZFW-LP, but it plays Spanish-language Christian music.
 
Without specific permission to operate with a different aural frequency than the normal 87.75 MHz, the stations are operating illegally.
I see nothing in the FCC database which indicates that KFLZ-LP is licensed to operate on 87.9 MHz.
 
I've had several radios that picked up channel 6 audio on 87.9. I was told this was because TV channels take up more bandwidth than radio stations. KOTV in Tulsa used to advertise that it could be heard at 87.9 on FM. That, of course, was before the digital transition.
 
We've had this discussion on another thread - Ch. 6 aural FM audio is licensed to be at 87.75 MHz. Some have tried to argue that centering the aural carrier at 87.9 MHz is OK, since it is still inside the allocated bandwidth for Ch. 6 analog TV broadcasting. Transmitting analog FM audio at 87.9 MHz is not permitted (as Frank stated below) because you would not be able to receive it on an analog TV tuned to Ch. 6 - it's still a low power analog TV allocation that has to abide by part 74 LPTV rules.

Here's another "gotcha" - if you move an aural FM signal to 87.9 MHz, you could be causing co-channel interference to a licensed FM at 88.1 MHz. That will get you in hot water with the FCC in a hurry.
 
I think this is probably permanent unless they get in trouble. The one in Fort Worth has been on 87.9 for a year or more. Now the one in San Antonio follows.
 
It looks like 99.9 K260CC got allowed since my last post, and meanwhile KFLZ is still on 87.9 FM...
 
Does this mean Univision is OK with it being on 87.9? Or do they know?
I probably am gonna get banned for discussing this, LOL.
 
It doesn't matter whether they know or not. Without FCC authority, they may not change their operating frequency.
 
AnyHuman said:
Does this mean Univision is OK with it being on 87.9? Or do they know?
I probably am gonna get banned for discussing this, LOL.
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Why would the aggregator of web streams care where a station is on a spot of the local dial in a single market?

A stream aggregator just cares about having a variety of content options. Streams do not have FCC licenses, so what they do on the air does not matter.
 
frankberry said:
It doesn't matter whether they know or not. Without FCC authority, they may not change their operating frequency.
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I believe they're on 87.9 as many car radios don't tune to 87.75, mine doesn't unless I change the operating region to something other than USA.

As for Univision, I believe La Pantera is also on 92.9 HD3, a Univision station.
 
The FCC doesn't care whether your car radio can pick it up. It's licensed as a television station.
 
AnyHuman said:
I believe they're on 87.9 as many car radios don't tune to 87.75, mine doesn't unless I change the operating region to something other than USA.

As for Univision, I believe La Pantera is also on 92.9 HD3, a Univision station.
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So you answered your own question: all Univision will care about is whether the check clears...
 
frankberry said:
The FCC doesn't care whether your car radio can pick it up. It's licensed as a television station.
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The chances of them actually getting busted are slim... The LPTV station in Fort Worth has been on 87.9 for over a year and nothing is done. I thought the FCC had an office in Dallas LOL.
 
rfburns said:
This will be moot in 2021 when all analog TV signals have to be shut down.
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Thank goodness. The FCC should never have permitted these "franken" FM's to exist. It's not enough that they are improperly using their licensed (television) facility ... Some aren't happy with their licensed aural operating frequency so they're changing it without FCC authorization. That makes them pirate (unauthorized) operators.

With that, I'm closing this thread because there are those who will not understand the FCC Rules and Regulations.
 
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